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<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] waddlesplash pushed 1 commit to master [hrev56393] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=8d18358cdf5c+%5E8045bb174ee2
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 8d18358cdf5c - HaikuDepot: Fix Image Rendering
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<HaikuUser> hello everybody!
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<waddlesplash> nephele: I am beginning to think scrollbar metrics should be a something you can get from ComposeSpacing
<waddlesplash> turns out it is sometimes necessary to set "scroll bar insets"
<LinuxUserHaiku> @waddlesplash hi!
<waddlesplash> hello
<LinuxUserHaiku> i decided to learn c++
<LinuxUserHaiku> and use qt creator as main ide
<waddlesplash> well, that will be quite the journey :)
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<waddlesplash> manual memory managment is Not Fun
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 861282ffa76d - BColumnListView: Dynamic scrollbar size support.
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] waddlesplash pushed 4 commits to master [hrev56394] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=1f34a738bebd+%5E8d18358cdf5c
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] af791479cbad - Debugger: Initial fixes to TeamsListView for HiDPI.
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 1f72988e6139 - Debugger: Improve appearance of TeamsWindow insets and spacing.
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<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 1f34a738bebd - Debugger: Use monospace font in tables that display addresses.
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<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] waddlesplash pushed 3 commits to master [hrev56395] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=cd3045596ec7+%5E1f34a738bebd
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 0a48878fba95 - Debugger: Set AUTO_UPDATE_SIZE_LIMITS and adjust default size of Teams window.
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 29335bd38981 - Debugger: Never automatically resize the columns of the ImageFunctions table.
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] cd3045596ec7 - BColumnListView: Optimize check for whether the focus row has moved.
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<waddlesplash> you would not believe what an incredible difference those last 2 commits
<waddlesplash> make on Debugger's perceived performance
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<waddlesplash> it's just so snappy now!
<waddlesplash> who knew the fix would be so simple. of course I couldn't have found it without a working profiler, which we haven't had for years until a few months ago when I fixed that
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<zdykstra> Very nice.
<MelMalik> awroof
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<Begasus> g'morning peeps
<LinuxUserHaiku> hi begasus
<phschafft> mau Begasus.
<MelMalik> I should cut my hair into a mullet
<Begasus> Hi LinuxUserHaiku phschafft MelMalik
<netpositive> morning
* phschafft fluffs his big lion mane.
<phschafft> everyone having a good morning?
<LinuxUserHaiku> yes
<LinuxUserHaiku> @Begasus i found great c++ ide?
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<Begasus> so far phschafft :)
<Begasus> yes LinuxUserHaiku ?
* MelMalik plays with her hair also
<MelMalik> Really I should just cut all my hair off, then dye it.
<Begasus> Mine are not that long anymore ;)
<Begasus> If they are all of there wouldn't be anything to dye MelMalik ;)
<MelMalik> Begasus, I mean down to 25mm
<phschafft> most seem seem to dye it before they cut it off. but I guess it's easier the other way around.
<phschafft> Begasus: very good. :)
<Begasus> Need to make an appointment also, almost 1cm, way to long now :P
<MelMalik> 10mm? That is rookie numbers
<Begasus> At one point there were somewhere over 60cm :) (late puberty I guess) :P
<MelMalik> damn
<MelMalik> I think I'm down to about that much? But I really should just cut it all off. Too many flyaways. I just tie it up in a ponytail for convenience all the time anyway. I'd look better with like 100mm.
<phschafft> late puberty. hm. waiting for 30 years already to reach that point.
<Begasus> 30 years? ;) (I think I was something between 45/55 by then) :P
<Begasus> nah, it's earlier
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<phschafft> I forgot how old I am a long time ago.
<Begasus> heh
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<Begasus> LinuxUserHaiku, there is also: https://github.com/geany/geany/pull/3242 (already in haikuports) :)
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<Not-ff83> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/95e5061ec6e5...805d2a4f5c35
<Not-ff83> [haikuports/haikuports] yann64 805d2a4 - ale (Auckland Layout Editor) : bump (#7146)
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<andreasdr[m]> Good morning
<Begasus> Moin andreasdr[m]
<LinuxUserHaiku> i made password generator in c++
<Begasus> congrats LinuxUserHaiku :)
<LinuxUserHaiku> i'll make github acc and upload it to github
<LinuxUserHaiku> and will make recipe
<Begasus> what do you use to generate the password?
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<andreasdr[m]> Moin Begasus
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<LinuxUserHaiku> will back soon
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<HaikuUser> i created github acc!
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<phschafft> I'm sorry.
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<OscarL> Aloha folks.
<Kokito> Aloha OscarL
<OscarL> :-)
<OscarL> Turns out that NOT loggin in right away into IRC... help me do some progress on the review feedback I got for "pidof"-
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<OscarL> Anyway... I gave myself a -1 after submitting the latest patchset :-D
<OscarL> (the reviewers were too kind)
<Begasus> hi OscarL Kokito :)
<OscarL> Hello Begasus.
<Kokito> Hello Begasus!
<Begasus> https://ibb.co/VSBcgvv (one of the pups from a previous litter, just got some nice new ones today from the owner) "in love" ;)
<Kokito> Nice!
<OscarL> beautiful animal Begasus!
<OscarL> The dog too!
<OscarL> :^P
<Begasus> :P ;)
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<OscarL> I get a bunch of "os/support/TypeConstants.h:16: warning: multi-character character constant" warnings after including <utils/Kmessage.h>
<OscarL> Should I be worried?
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<Begasus> No idea there OscarL :)
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<OscarL> :-D let's see if actually running the thing gets me to KDL or not then! :-D
<Begasus> cu soon then :P
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<OscarL> Bah! userland life's too boring! No KDL so far! :-D
<Begasus> hehe
* OscarL is using private APIs and feeling quite the haxor! :-D
<OscarL> If only I knew what am I doing... Oh well.
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<Begasus> OscarL, half of the time I don't know what I'm doing, and sometimes it works out just fine ;)
<Begasus> But now I know (scanning the pups pedigree) :)
<OscarL> That's the spirit! :-) I feel the same... well... only that I wish it was half the time for me too, and not 1 in 1000000. :-D
<OscarL> Those pups look more expensive than my house :-D (and rightly so, they look amazing Begasus!)
<Begasus> Hardly would call it that, prizes are not cheep, but we stand proud to what we did so far :)
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<Begasus> lol, I take my words back, all scans were gray ... :P
<OscarL> Meaning for those not in the know?
<OscarL> scans like actually scanning the pedigree papers?
* OscarL was thinking something like some blood work or something :-D
* OscarL tends to easily get confused. He should learn to read more carefully.
<Begasus> Yes OscarL
<Begasus> Papers :)
<OscarL> I was thinking that "scans comming back gray" was code for something else related to dog breading, LOL, hahaha
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<Begasus> heh
<matt3> hi
<Begasus> hi matt3
* OscarL keeps getting deeper and deeper... now trying to find the kernel implementation of "_kern_get_extended_team_info()".
<OscarL> hello matt3
<matt3> cheers, simply cheers
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<OscarL> Jebus, I'm dumb. I spent an hour trying to figure out why get_extended_team_info() kept giving me NULL values.
<OscarL> turns out I was calling it after get_next_team_info() already incremented the teamId variable I was passing to the other function :-(
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<Begasus> learning process OscarL :)
<Begasus> bbl
<OscarL> see you!
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<noka> successfully first boot… is Haiku more like a education OS nowadays ?
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<zdykstra> how would you define an education OS ?
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<noka> Like the main purpose isn’t for primary use but for dev to practise or learn more about os/system/kernel
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<OscarL> noka: I guess that each developer has his own motivations/goals (besides the general desire to recreate the BeOS experience)
<OscarL> Some, I'm sure, would love for it to "rule the desktop". For others, could be a nostalgia thing. Or an entretaining hobby...
<OscarL> or they just like the friends they made along the years...
<OscarL> etc, etc.
<OscarL> Haiku in many aspects is more approachable than other, more complex, OSes... and Haiku's source code is far easier to navigate, IMO.
<OscarL> Tha makes it easier to try certain things, so... in a way... it is also an education tool, if you will.
<OscarL> Depending the task you want to perform with it... it can range from inadecuate, to pretty awesome :-)
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<OscarL> Being a smaller project also means that any contribution one can make has a relative bigger impact than it would have in larger projects.
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<OscarL> does "git push" to gerrit takes around 4 minutes for everyone? or it is just my old hardware just not being able to go faster?
<OscarL> The "remote: Counting objects:" part is the one that takes that much time from here. Just wondering if that's normal.
<Begasus> maybe your branch is out of sync with upstream?
<OscarL> (using git from Haiku nightlies)
<OscarL> Begasus: I wouldn't know. I just follow the guide on how to submit patches and amend them.
<Begasus> or you switched branches somewhere?
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<OscarL> Only those that the guide points out :-(
<Begasus> Not familiar with gerrit, so no idea there :(
<OscarL> git fetch (or pull with rebase), and git checkout origin/master before doing fetch and cherry-picking
<Begasus> anyway, time to close down for today ...
<OscarL> Be well Begasus! Take care!
<Begasus> thanks OscarL , good luck there
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<Begasus> cu peeps!
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<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] waddlesplash pushed 1 commit to master [hrev56396] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=ee88fb6f03bb+%5Ecd3045596ec7
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] ee88fb6f03bb - HaikuDepot: Minor GUI string changes
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<HaikuUser> Hello Haiku people
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<HaikuUser> I just installed haiku in my VM and irc client Vision bringed me here
<waddlesplash> :)
<HaikuUser> Its flickering a lot
<HaikuUser> Also why is it still in beta?
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<HaikuUser> Hello Thomas
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<HaikuUser> Haiku's browser is worser than IE
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<HaikuUser> How to use java in Haiku?
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<waddlesplash> install an openjdk_jre package of your choice
<waddlesplash> not sure why it's flickering a lot, it doesn't do that for me
<HaikuUser> What's the command?
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<waddlesplash> pkgman is the command line tool, or HaikuDepot is the GUI
<waddlesplash> probably you want openjdk14_default package
<HaikuUser> It's probably flickering cuz it's not made for VM enviroment
<waddlesplash> it works fine in VMs for me, and most other users
<HaikuUser> HaikuDepot looks cool atleast
<HaikuUser> Also do we have firefox cuz Haiku default browser is kinda shit?
<HaikuUser> How to open .jar files with java in haiku?
<waddlesplash> same way as on Linux?
<waddlesplash> java -jar file.jar
<HaikuUser> command java is not installed
<waddlesplash> did you install the package?
<HaikuUser> Yes.
<waddlesplash> which one?
<waddlesplash> you need the _default package to get the commands
<HaikuUser> OH
<waddlesplash> otherwise the commands wind up somewhere not in $PATH
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<waddlesplash> and, there's no Firefox but there is Falkon which is QtWebEngine-based
<HaikuUser> Falkon will probably do the job
<waddlesplash> it crashes on YouTube unfortunately...
<waddlesplash> most other sites work well tho
<HaikuUser> How to screenshot in haiku?
<HaikuUser> Oh, printscreen.
<waddlesplash> :)
<HaikuUser> Does your client support images?
<waddlesplash> what do you mean?
<HaikuUser> Images in irc
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<waddlesplash> well it supports DCC but nobody really uses that anymore
<waddlesplash> you'll have to use an image pasting service and link it here
<waddlesplash> some support pasting from the command line, e.g. 0x0.st
<HaikuUser> Good news. I runned my favorite java game but I can't move window
<HaikuUser> OK, I finded yellow bar
<HaikuUser> Also when I resize screen game dosen't resize.
<HaikuUser> And screen size is too small
<HaikuUser> I hided and showed screen and now it's ok
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<HaikuUser> *sending screenshot
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<HaikuUser> Here is some screenshot of java experience in haiku
<waddlesplash> I don't know much about our Java port really
<waddlesplash> presuming it doesn't behave this way on Linux, you can file an issue at HaikuPorts
<Diver> you can open an issue here https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/issues/new
<HaikuUser> Haiku is ported in java?
<HaikuUser> I don't have any issuse
<FreeFull> I wonder what the newest version of minecraft that'd run is
<FreeFull> Minecraft classic should work
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<HaikuUser> Anyway bye!
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<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] waddlesplash pushed 4 commits to master [hrev56397] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=33cf9d22ff10+%5Eee88fb6f03bb
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 1f0c87711b31 - shared/IconView: Add a variant of SetIcon which directly accepts a BBitmap.
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] e6ab6daf984d - TeamMonitor: Use BControlLook::ComposeIconSize.
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 72e4928f8aa4 - Tracker & desklink: Pass -1 to GetTrackerIcon for sizing.
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 33cf9d22ff10 - ProcessController: Utilize ComposeIconSize and refactor icon menu items.
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<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] waddlesplash pushed 1 commit to master [hrev56398] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=2eaee4a7a166+%5E33cf9d22ff10
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 2eaee4a7a166 - Screen preflet: fix usage of std::find()
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