<nekobot>
[haiku/haiku] 0263d2163fb3 - Add David Karoly to current maintainers
<nephele>
lelldorin: for a recipe?
<lelldorin>
nephele: yes
<nephele>
just put a wrong sum and build it ;)
<nephele>
that's how I do it
<nephele>
but the proper way is to download the archive yourself
<nephele>
and run sha256sum on the archive
<lelldorin>
ah ok, you mean that i get it by uploading to github?
<nephele>
no, i mean, just try to build it. it will complain the sum is wrong and what it got instead
<lelldorin>
i am building a recipecreator and want tot make this before
<nephele>
then download the archive and run sha256sum on it
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<lelldorin>
you mean the folder there i save the recipe? like: /boot/home/expand/haikuports/games-action/abuse
<nephele>
it does not matter, but the point of the sum is to verify you got the correct, and uncorrupted, archive. so if you want to prefill it you have to download the archive and calculate the checksum from it
<lelldorin>
what is meant with archive?
<nephele>
like the thing you want to build you download as an archive, like .zip or .tar.gz etc
<lelldorin>
a ok the tar.gz sourceurl file?
<nephele>
yeah, what is in SOURCE_URI
<lelldorin>
ok
<lelldorin>
thanks
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<nephele>
Ugh, I don't understand what gcc wants, it warns me that my functions overive virtual functions, but isn't that *exactly* what virtual functions are for? I tried using the override keyword but i can't figure out how it's supposed to work to silence this warning...
<nephele>
If i remove the virtual it just ignores that, and still claims the function is virtual, if i add the override at the end it seems to ignore that too
<jmairboeck>
your subclassed member is a different overload, you could try pulling the base class overload into your class by adding a using HaikuControlLook::DrawButtonFrame to your class declaration, so that it is also available in the subclass
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<Anarchos>
nephele you don't have the same type as the overriden one,
<nephele>
Why does that matter? I don't implement the one with more arguments, why would it be overiden?
<nephele>
... Does C++ *not* make a destinction between functions with different number of arguments? how does it know which to pick then?
<Anarchos>
nephele maybe you should look in documetation for your error message, to understand what's happening. I am too shallow on typing in C++.
<nephele>
If i understand you correctly this would mean the function with the extra arguments can't be called, which makes no sense to me, what else would it call then? is there no way to say "for the other arity just use the parent class"?
<Anarchos>
nephele you confuse me. I understand your point.
<Anarchos>
nephele time to rtfm :)
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<Anarchos>
may i do pull requests to add a 'reboot' alias in UserSetupEnvironment, and hostname in $PS1 ?
<jmairboeck>
nephele: I think there are some weird rules with overload resolution and functions from base classes, but I'm not exactly sure about that
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<nephele>
We don't have pull requests, only reviews, but then of course you may put changes for review, weather they are accepted is different of course ;)
<nephele>
(personally I am not a fan of more stuff in that file, mainly because i use mksh and not bash)
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<Anarchos>
nephele well , i installed a little network at home, and i find it convenient to see in Terminal on which host i am because of ssh forwarding
<nephele>
honestly, i would like it if terminal would figure this out, that it is a remote host, and recolor the window background or something
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<nephele>
then there is a direct visual indicator what you are talking with... but then i'd rather also had a remote client that just lets me interact with the gui directly easily, like remote app_server but say with an app launcher :P
<Anarchos>
nephele i could unfortunately not make remote _app_server work on my side :(
<jmairboeck>
nephele: see https://en.cppreference.com/w/cpp/language/virtual "A function with the same name but different parameter list does not override the base function of the same name, but hides it: when unqualified name lookup examines the scope of the derived class, the lookup finds the declaration and does not examine the base class."
<jmairboeck>
so you have to explicitly pull in the member function from the base class with a using in the definition of the derived class if you need both
<nephele>
what is the difference between overiding and hiding then? if an application calls the more complicated call would it still suceed?
<nephele>
do you have an example of that?
<jmairboeck>
a call via the derived class would not find the overload from the base class
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<nephele>
so, an application calling the decorator would then call nothing? is that just undefined what it does instead?
<jmairboeck>
there is an example below that statement on cppreference
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* Anarchos
:test
<andreasdr[m]>
TEST1
<andreasdr[m]>
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<andreasdr[m]>
:DDD
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<sixecho>
running haikuos in a qemu vm - and often suspend / time is always off on resume. known bug? or proper setting/way to fix it -- or at least run a script to sync time on resume - if that's triggerable?
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<tqh>
Haiku does not have proper support. Not sure anyone tried to implement it properly.
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<n0toose[m]>
wxWidgets (wxQt/wxGTK) + FileDialog in a piece of software to be ported on Haiku is a problem. Do we go for wxGTK?
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<Anarchos>
first PXE boot of a x86_64 image ;)
<nephele>
Icon-O-Matic is really nice, can make some great vector icons for my game and export them to use them even in engines that don't otherwise know how to draw them :3
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* Anarchos
: as i said, first successful PXE boot of a x86_64 image !
<rennj>
While standard PXE clients use only TFTP to load parameters and programs from the server, iPXE client software can use additional protocols, including HTTP, iSCSI, ATA over Ethernet (AoE), and Fibre Channel over Ethernet (FCoE). Also, on certain hardware, iPXE client software can use a Wi-Fi link, as opposed to the wired connection required by the PXE standard.
<rennj>
The iPXE client is a superset of, and can replace or supplement, prior PXE implementations.
<Anarchos>
rennj seems cool, but way to much over my head !
<rennj>
you can chainload into iPXE to obtain the features of iPXE without the hassle of reflashing.
<rennj>
so its not like you have to flash nic rom
<Anarchos>
rennj i just changed the list of drivers in the NetbootImage, and the size of a buffer in tarfs.cpp
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<rennj>
heh, yeah well future project down the road...
<Anarchos>
rennj i never wrote a single line of assembly...
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<rennj>
will leave it up to waddlesplash
<rennj>
hehe
<Anarchos>
rennj i would love to learn it
<rennj>
i need to either buy the 8core ryzen laptop, or upgrade to 1TB ssd/m.2 pciE prefer..not sata ssd...then i could actually get back into playing around with things..ive run out of space
<rennj>
i got 30GB scratch space for vm's on this box, 2GB of free space for data...i been limiting myself to 500GB for over decade
<rennj>
delete movies and music before i delete txt books or software...data hoarding not to bad
<n0toose[m]>
waddlesplash, understandable, thought so too, but there's this FileDialog that's VERY annoying
<rennj>
22TB in six years..
<rennj>
im living with constraints
<waddlesplash>
n0toose[m]: well add the needed features to wxQt then?
<n0toose[m]>
as in, upstream
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<n0toose[m]>
i'll be honest, i have poked around with wxwidgets a lot, and if i were to start ranting about it i would go on for 30 minutes
<n0toose[m]>
but yep, that's all i had to ask! :D
<rennj>
qt vs gnome
<rennj>
trolltek where dicks either way
<rennj>
least its crossplatform
* Anarchos
just needs gtksourceview...
<rennj>
its like the wayland shit tor-browser is being compile with vs firefox
<rennj>
i got old 2019 system here no wayland..firefox is fine on, but tor-browser now for some reason needs wayland binding
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<rennj>
gimp/gtk-gdk vs qt...
<rennj>
i dont have libqt on this box..but then i didnt like gnome or kde desktops..i dot have gtk/gdk though.
<rennj>
i dont have libqt on this box..but then i didnt like gnome or kde desktops..i do have gtk/gdk though.
<nekobot>
[haiku/haiku] 0f635f9bbc3a - Move some people between active and past contributors.
<rennj>
running fvwm/rox for 20years.. i guess i should bight the bullet go kde neon!
<rennj>
probably couldnt watch youtube videos anymore in vm's if i went with that resource hog
<ermo[m]>
KDE has worked remarkably well for me. My current DD is MATE but that's because it's got an older, not very powerful yet very frugal GPU.
<ermo[m]>
My dedicated dev box is KDE. That won't change.
<rennj>
i compiled and ran kde1.0 on both sparc and amd..back in the day..didnt mind it then
<rennj>
and of course libqt
<ermo[m]>
I don't know what to say to that other than "things have changed a fair bit since then."
<rennj>
it uses more resources is my point
<rennj>
it slows the system down...if i did kde neon on this box 2015 laptop, i might have stuttering in vmware vm's just because the resources the host os is consuming
<rennj>
fvmw/rox compared to gnome or kde ..is not even in same league
<rennj>
change! hehe old man yells at sky!!!
<rennj>
i know kde has some nise apps now..like kconnect is it, and kicad and such...
<nekobot>
[haiku/haiku] bad677be5b07 - kernel/scheduler: Remove "inline" attribute from PeekThread.
<nekobot>
[haiku/haiku] 8dc67def4b11 - kernel/scheduler: Always reschedule after enqueueing if the runqueue was empty.
<rennj>
i could not stand the bloat
<ermo[m]>
but I'm not in the target audience for neither slackware (does it even have proper dependencies or is it still assembled manually by that guy with OCD-like tendencies?) nor FVWM+rox (I get that FVWM is supremely customisable and that rox was ahead of its time way back when). MATE does the job for me in terms of ootb usability while still being reasonably non-heavy (but that's just my view).
<ermo[m]>
IOW, people are free to disagree with what I perceive as a good-enough baseline. =)
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<ermo[m]>
is the "romulis" misspelling of "romulus" intentional?
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<rennj>
romulis and remus suckling from the wolf
<rennj>
founders of rome
<rennj>
The she-wolf from the legend of Romulus and Remus was regarded as a symbol of Rome from ancient times. Several ancient sources refer to statues depicting the wolf suckling the twins. Livy reports in his Roman history that a statue was erected at the foot of the Palatine Hill in 295 BC
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<rennj>
yeah a misspelling
<ermo[m]>
(I just noticed that the spelling was an ongoing theme across the screenshots is all)
<ermo[m]>
and figured it might be a twist I was unaware of =)
<rennj>
my first home computer network was 2 machines with 3com nics and crossover cable...no switch or hub
<rennj>
like 1995 tech
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<rennj>
romulis and remus hostname choices i did way back then
<rennj>
i still have romulis on virtual window title
<rennj>
remus..well i got freebsd 5.4 vm..from back then still on my system..i can boot up anytime i want
<rennj>
fbsd4.0-5.4
<Anarchos>
i am setting my own haiku network at home
<Anarchos>
ubuntu as a gateway/tftp server
<rennj>
i could fire up 4 haiku vm's right now if i want
<Anarchos>
and my laptop as haiku remote disk server
<rennj>
all on vlan segment
<rennj>
a network of haiku machines
<Anarchos>
now i can boot a haiku desktop on this setup with 32 or 64 bit netboot image :)
<rennj>
yeah pxe boot...rack 72u..72 1u machines
<rennj>
72 boxes come up...
<rennj>
1u being the 1.75"
<rennj>
booting a rack of computers!!!
<Anarchos>
to be sure i boot on network i even disconnected the sata drive of the machine during my fist tests !