<x512[m]>
wayland-server is new work from scratch, is is not port of some existing code.
<LinuxUser>
))))
<rennj>
you going to jail
<rennj>
haha
<rennj>
intellectual property rights/copyright/trademark..you looked over walt disneys shoulder as he drew mickey mouse...
<LinuxUser>
meat with tomatoes is tasty)
<LinuxUser>
@begasus will you there on irc tomorrow?
<Begasus>
In the morning, but got dogschool, so not that long
<rennj>
If you have an apple and I have an apple and we exchange these apples then you and I will still each have one apple. But if you have an idea and I have an idea and we exchange these ideas, then each of us will have two ideas.” --George Bernard Shaw
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<LinuxUser>
what is dogschool?
<rennj>
why you should use the GNU license and not MIT...forces the sharing of ideas
<Begasus>
A school where you train dogs
<rennj>
MIT is fine if you want sony,nintendo, netflix making products and not giving back...
<rennj>
they are not obligated to contribute unlike GNU
<x512[m]>
rennj: I am fine with using my code by Sony, Nintendo, Netflix etc. and not giving back.
<LinuxUser>
still waiting process((
<x512[m]>
LinuxUser: Waiting for what?
<rennj>
SaaS for you!
<LinuxUser>
waiting while haikuports updates dependency info for every package..
<rennj>
how company making $$$ off your hard work, and you doing everything for nothing
<rennj>
haikuos amd edition!
<LinuxUser>
rennj: what?
<rennj>
ebay cdrom's sold for money
<LinuxUser>
hmmm
<rennj>
once x512 finishes the work
<rennj>
hurry up already!
<LinuxUser>
yep...
<rennj>
i got product to ship
<LinuxUser>
))
<rennj>
MIT w00t
<rennj>
cdrom,usb flash drives..come on
<rennj>
product
<rennj>
sdhc
<rennj>
sandisk
<LinuxUser>
i think this process will be forever
<x512[m]>
LinuxUser: Virtual machine?
<rennj>
stunt man mike from death proof will give you ride home
<rennj>
i recommend not getting in the car
<LinuxUser>
x512: no
<LinuxUser>
x512: haikuporter's process
<LinuxUser>
@begasus where is you?
<Begasus>
In my chair
<LinuxUser>
)))
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<LinuxUser>
i'm laughting
<LinuxUser>
sadly there is no vbox or vmplayer for haiku :'(
<x512[m]>
Implementation of Wayland protocols over Haiku API. Unlike regular Wayland server implementations, Haiku in-proc Wayland server do not run as separate server process but load as add-on into each Wayland client instead. It do no compositing by itself, but use existing Haiku capabilities such as native Haiku windows and bitmap drawing API.
<x512[m]>
This is what is actually installed. XML files are just copies.
<Begasus>
Yep, got those installed in $dataDir
<Begasus>
trying with tests disabled
<LinuxUser>
Maybe wayland-scanner has different name
<Begasus>
Nope, all good there LinuxUser
<LinuxUser>
ok, i wont help
<Begasus>
k, that works x512[m]
<Begasus>
I can drop TEST(), think it was pretty good when I ran the tests
<LinuxUser>
@begasus for what reason recipes are needed?
<x512[m]>
LinuxUser: To make HPKG packages.
<nephele>
recipes are instructions on how to automate building of software and packageing it afterwards for the haikuports project
<nephele>
You can, in theory, use the package command directly. but that won't be distributable with haikuports then, you would need to make your own repository for that
<Begasus>
1 test failed out of 86, not bad, will drop it and move the recipe to use "all"
<Begasus>
can be posted to haikuports, or do you prefer to wait?
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<x512[m]>
Begasus: Any problems with enabling GTK Wayland backend?
<Begasus>
Still not able to build it with haikuporter due to mentioned error
<Begasus>
Once that could be build I could enable "gtk3_wayland" recipe, but I presume it would conflict with the default "gtk3" recipe, so that should be added to it also then
<Begasus>
But at least the basics should be there
<Begasus>
Also, do you plan to keep your wayland repository on par with upstream? (I see upstream has already 4 commits ahead of yours)
<Begasus>
has/is*
<x512[m]>
libwayland can be updated if needed.
<Begasus>
right
<x512[m]>
I also added add-on interface that is currently considered unstable. libwayland can be updated because of adf-on interface changes.
<x512[m]>
In general updating libwayland from upstream should be done with care, it can break add-on logic.
<Begasus>
You are the master there, I'm only the recipe guy ;)
<x512[m]>
I mean do not try to rebase against latest upstream if do not understand logic.
<Begasus>
Not planning to myself ;)
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<Begasus>
rebooting to 64bit
<Begasus>
rebuild/check ...
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<Begasus>
K, things seem to be on par for the recipes (also 64bit)
<Begasus>
x512[m], I just saw that launching geany from Tracker doesn't work, maybe related to XDG_RUNTIME_DIR?
<Begasus>
launching in Terminal is ok
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<x512[m]>
Begasus: If it says "can open display" then yes.
<Begasus>
Launching from Tracker doesn't give a notice
<Begasus>
doing a rebuid for gtk3-wayland in Terminal, see if nothing got broken :)
<nephele>
how come 3d cad applications still rely on impossible to pay subscriptions mostly .-.
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<Begasus>
someone needs to pay their developers maybe nephele :)
<nephele>
By making it *literally* impossible for people to purchase the application? :)
<nephele>
I guess if the only alternative is blender companies don't have much to worry about...
<Begasus>
Don't know the prizes to software these days, but back then Photoshop was also not for the common :)
<phschafft>
define '*literally* impossible'?
<nephele>
phschafft: making it too expensive to buy, or in this case subscribe to
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<LinuxUser>
hi begasus my process with haikuporter is done!
<Begasus>
for weather LinuxUser ?
<nephele>
Say, for a drawing application for the iPad i might be asked 20€ for a good one, once. Siemens for example wants 130€ *per month* for solid edge
<LinuxUser>
yes
<Begasus>
jikes!
<Begasus>
it took that long?
<LinuxUser>
yes
<phschafft>
hm.
<LinuxUser>
but that was first build
<phschafft>
Simens is always on the expensive side of things.
<Begasus>
you'll get fustrated when trying something else I guess
<phschafft>
but have you checked for any hobbyist programs?
<Begasus>
weather is one of the smallest project to build
<phschafft>
there is often a non-commercial hobbyist license available.
<nephele>
Siemens has something for students or something, but i don't really qualify for that
<Begasus>
heh
<phschafft>
so they *do* have offers. ;)
<phschafft>
and I must say that 130 euro/month really doesn't shock me.
<nephele>
for a 3d cad software, it does not for me either
<nephele>
but this is like the only software segment i know with such steep subscription prices, well except for adobe maybe
<nephele>
but then you have stuff like the affinity suit as a competition with one time purchases...
<nephele>
seems there is a "solid edge community edition"
<phschafft>
hm.
<phschafft>
but that said thank you for reminding me that I need to review one of the licenses myself *g*
<nephele>
Welp, this one is unavailable for the iPad :D
<nephele>
I've used solid edge once years ago and it was great, i never really got along with blender in comparison
<nephele>
... though I really want "just" a 3d cad that would work more like valve's hammer editor... but then that is a map editor and not a 3d cad in the technical sense
<nephele>
I guess i can read the EULA for the community edition and see if that works for me, and try to run it on ubuntu
<Begasus>
Maybe you could search for a ... hmm ... pirated version? <ducks>
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<LinuxUser>
sorry for disconnection i walked
<LinuxUser>
sorry for asking this again. begasus will you be tomorrow?
<LinuxUser>
and i saw that you changed your nick from begasus_32 to begasus64
<Begasus>
switched architecture on the other laptop LinuxUser
<Begasus>
Chances are great me being around
<Begasus>
Well great not being the correct wording
<LinuxUser>
goodbye everybody! i'll back tomorrow!
<Begasus>
cu!
<LinuxUser>
good sleeping!
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<Begasus>
alright, build ok, demo up and running fine
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<matt3>
hi rennj
<matt3>
the good renny
<matt3>
say to bernd korz => a great hello from mattia ... ;D
<jmairboeck>
I also have a WIP haikuports recipe for it, but I think I'll wait for the upstream pull request
<jmairboeck>
I'm still unsure whether I should add a device for the SoftSynth from the MIDI 1 kit to it, because currently it sees no devices if nothing is there and is not very useful. When starting MidiSynth, it registers an input and output device with the MidiRoster (using the SoftSynth), so then this is available.
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<nephele>
I'm not sure exactly what you want, but as for demo midi producers there is a virtual piano in haikuports i think
<jmairboeck>
yes, I have used that for testing
<jmairboeck>
MidiSynth to be exact
<andreasdr[m]>
Good morning
<jmairboeck>
and if that is running, PortMidi shows some "devices" (i.e. Endpoints that have been registered in the MidiRoster)