#haiku on 2022-08-27 — irc logs at oftc.irclog.whitequark.org

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00:05 <augiedoggie> hm, my deskbar replicants don't align properly at boot, i have to resize the deskbar and then they're fine

00:07 <waddlesplash> hrev?

00:07 <augiedoggie> freshly built just now

00:07 <waddlesplash> ah

00:07 <waddlesplash> yeah, quite possible I broke something

00:08 <waddlesplash> what font size?

00:08 <augiedoggie> 11

00:08 <waddlesplash> that might do it. I didn't test with <12

00:08 <waddlesplash> not sure what could be the real cause of that however. this code is really not straightforward

00:08 <waddlesplash> jscipione probably understands it better than I do

00:08 <augiedoggie> heh

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00:09 <waddlesplash> speak of the devil!

00:09 <waddlesplash> Skipp_OSX: apparently my recent deskbar changes don't work right on configurations with small font sizes

00:09 <waddlesplash> how well do you understand the replicant layout code in deskbar?

00:09 <Skipp_OSX> pretty well after axel adjusted it

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00:13 <augiedoggie> i normally have 5 replicants and the deskbar width at the smallest, which gives me two rows of replicants

00:13 <augiedoggie> but at boot it's 1 row with 2 of the replicants hiding until i resize the deskbar

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00:13 <Skipp_OSX> it's designed to fit 6 16x16 by default but no idea what happens in your case

00:14 <waddlesplash> Skipp_OSX: well, now it's not necessarily 16x16

00:14 <waddlesplash> ComposeIconSize returns larger than 16x16 for B_MINI_ICON at font size > 12

00:14 <waddlesplash> however at font size <12 it should still return 16

00:14 <waddlesplash> but maybe other metrics aren't working out correctly

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00:15 <Skipp_OSX> right but that's been true for a while now

00:15 <waddlesplash> well the problematic commit is most likely 9f4bb0f54451

00:15 <Skipp_OSX> I just have no idea how many icons are supposed to fit in that case

00:15 <waddlesplash> unless augiedoggie didn't test yesterday's commits in which case it could be that too

00:15 <Skipp_OSX> yeah I'm looking at the change now

00:16 <Skipp_OSX> but what is the problem?

00:16 <waddlesplash> he detailed it just above

00:16 <Skipp_OSX> o looking at log

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00:18 <augiedoggie> i didn't test anything yesterday

00:18 <waddlesplash> ok, so it's possible yesterday's deskbar metrics changes are also part of the problem

00:20 <Skipp_OSX> maybe bc kClockMargin should be replaced with sIconGap

00:21 <Skipp_OSX> kClockMargin is 12 so maybe that doesn't adjust for font right and it uses that to calculate the number of replicant icons that will fit

00:28 <waddlesplash> ah, that's possible

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01:28 <nekobot> [haiku/haiku] waddlesplash pushed 4 commits to master [hrev56382] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=67ca14e889fe+%5E8fab9f8a9f90

01:28 <nekobot> [haiku/haiku] a649df28acc8 - BAlert: Fix preferred-size computation.

01:28 <nekobot> [haiku/haiku] f583d9043607 - BAlert: Support changing icons while the alert is running.

01:28 <nekobot> [haiku/haiku] f5fcee015787 - BAlert documentation: Clarify that SetIcon assumes ownership.

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01:28 <nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 67ca14e889fe - registrar: Rewrite shutdown dialog to just use a BAlert.

01:31 <waddlesplash> Skipp_OSX: any ideas what I got wrong?

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01:36 <waddlesplash> well, with registrar and Terminal fixed, I think that's most of the major annoyances related to HiDPI resolved

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01:38 <waddlesplash> there's still some stuff in Tracker that I have notes about

01:38 <waddlesplash> but after yesterday's and today's fixes that's now seriously improved as well

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01:51 <LinuxUser> Now moment of truth... :)

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02:25 <x512[m]> waddlesplash: Does window border width DPI aware?

02:25 <waddlesplash> yes, I fixed that some weeks ago

02:25 <waddlesplash> it doesn't look perfect, but it's at least better than it was

02:31 <nekobot> [haiku/haiku] waddlesplash pushed 2 commits to master [hrev56383] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=e038086025d3+%5E67ca14e889fe

02:31 <nekobot> [haiku/haiku] d56ff162fb9e - Tracker: Adjust metrics of the CountView.

02:31 <nekobot> [haiku/haiku] e038086025d3 - BButton: Adjust the spacing and minimum values to use LabelSpacing.

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03:01 <nekobot> [haiku/haiku] waddlesplash pushed 1 commit to master [hrev56384] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=34ab706011c1+%5Ee038086025d3

03:01 <nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 34ab706011c1 - StyledEdit: Do not do font->Size() / 12 but rather downscale directly.

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03:43 <andreasdr[m]> Nice. Some HiDPI love!

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03:49 <nekobot> [haiku/haiku] waddlesplash pushed 1 commit to master [hrev56385] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=e5f774e84852+%5E34ab706011c1

03:49 <nekobot> [haiku/haiku] e5f774e84852 - Tracker: Rework file-panel initialization.

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06:01 <Begasus> g'morning peeps

06:01 <LinuxUser> g'afternoon peeps

06:02 <LinuxUser> hi begasus!

06:02 <Begasus> hi LinuxUser

06:03 <LinuxUser> Progress!

06:03 <Begasus> it's extracted? :)

06:03 <LinuxUser> yes!

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06:05 <Begasus> up and running?

06:05 <LinuxUser> And it even works!

06:05 <Begasus> nice :) happy coding

06:05 <LinuxUser> i wrote first program

06:06 <LinuxUser> lazarus interface reminds me delphi :)

06:08 <Begasus> not the first time I hear it

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06:10 <LinuxUser> i'm glad

06:11 <andreasdr[m]> Good morning Begasus

06:12 <Begasus> Moin andreasdr[m]

06:18 <LinuxUser> but it's laggy on qemu :(

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06:19 <Begasus> no news there LinuxUser

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07:01 <LinuxUser> hmm

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07:08 <LinuxUser> maybe i'll haiku on laptor today

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07:37 <LinuxUser> begasus where's you?

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07:56 <LinuxUser> @Begasus_32 at least you're there

07:57 <Begasus_32> I'm not there, I'm here :P

07:57 <LinuxUser> ok

07:59 <LinuxUser> i'll run haiku on laptor

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07:59 <Ellenor> laptor?

07:59 <Ellenor> j/k I know you meant laptop

07:59 <LinuxUser> yees

08:00 <LinuxUser> through flash & ventoy :)

08:01 <LinuxUser> be back soon

08:01 <LinuxUser> went drinking tea

08:01 <Ellenor> hope it's good :3

08:03 <LinuxUser> yess

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08:19 <LinuxUser> I'm here atm.

08:21 <Ellenor> welcome home

08:22 <LinuxUser> ??

08:22 <nekobot> [haiku/haiku] autocommitter pushed 1 commit to master [hrev56386] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=100e2a19c198+%5Ee5f774e84852

08:22 <nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 100e2a19c198 - Update translations from Pootle

08:22 <LinuxUser> Ellenor: what you meant?

08:23 <Ellenor> idk

08:23 <Ellenor> just trying to be welcoming.

08:23 <LinuxUser> hehe

08:23 <LinuxUser> do you know what's ventoy?

08:25 <LinuxUser> https://en.wikipedia.org/siki/Ventoy

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08:28 <Ellenor> >siki

08:28 <Ellenor> oops

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08:35 <Not-ff83> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-0/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/295f2c1cab09...3becf86c9cd2

08:35 <Not-ff83> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus 3becf86 - gumbo, new recipe (#7133)

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08:52 <qwebirc62209> Hello I'm sorry I still can't compile haikuwebkit. Virtual memory was available but wasn't used. I've tried cmake options O0, O1, O2, ,O3, Os Og. It seems O3 was always used by compiler.

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08:54 <MelMalik> um...

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08:54 <MelMalik> LinuxUser, welcome bacjk

08:54 <LinuxUser> i'm here

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09:08 <Diver> qwebirc62209: try this:

09:08 <Diver> echo "export DISABLE_ASLR=1" >> ~/config/settings/boot/UserSetupEnvironment

09:08 <Diver> followed by a reboot

09:10 <Diver> this helps when building java

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09:21 <Not-ff83> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+2/-2/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/3becf86c9cd2...fcd743263a8d

09:21 <Not-ff83> [haikuports/haikuports] extrowerk fcd7432 - libuv: bump (#6805)

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09:25 <Not-ff83> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+3/-3/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/fcd743263a8d...23c712e40118

09:25 <Not-ff83> [haikuports/haikuports] extrowerk 23c712e - X265: bump (#6728)

09:37 <qwebirc62209> <@Diver> many thanks :-) it has helped.

09:38 <qwebirc62209> need close browser now

09:38 <Diver> very nice :)

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09:39 <Begasus> Would be one for the docx building webkit then Diver :)

09:40 <Diver> actually, it's even in the recipe https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/blob/master/haiku-libs/haikuwebkit/haikuwebkit-1.8.4.recipe#L90

09:40 <Begasus> lol

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09:43 <Begasus> never buid it so haven't looked into the recipe :)

09:45 <MelMalik> arf!

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10:04 <Not-ff83> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/23c712e40118...e7390de64878

10:04 <Not-ff83> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus e7390de - x265, fix build for 32bit (#7134)

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10:08 <Begasus> extrowerk, around?

10:14 <Begasus> https://build.haiku-os.org/buildmaster/master/x86_64/logviewer.html?buildruns/7404/builds/77709.log

10:14 <Begasus> https://build.haiku-os.org/buildmaster/master/x86_gcc2/logviewer.html?buildruns/3060/builds/78447.log

10:15 <Begasus> both build ok, but there is a difference at the packaging stage

10:15 <Begasus> 32bit reports: Warning: POLICY WARNING: no matching provides "cmd:x265" for "bin/x265" where 64bit doesn't give the warning?

10:17 <Begasus> ah! rm -rf $binDir $developDir

10:17 <Begasus> on 32bit it's installed in $prefix/bin for 3.4

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10:32 <Not-ff83> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/e7390de64878...4e83e443d80e

10:32 <Not-ff83> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus 4e83e44 - x265-3.4 cmd is installed in $prefix/bin, not in $binDir (#7135)

10:33 <Begasus> that should fix it

10:40 <Begasus> my bad :) (didn't see the *.a file there) Warning: POLICY WARNING: development library entry "/packaging/x265_3.4_x86/lib/x86/libx265.a" should be placed in "develop/lib/x86"

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10:45 <Not-ff83> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/4e83e443d80e...c8f587b3987e

10:45 <Not-ff83> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus c8f587b - x265-3.4, revert removal of prepareInstalledDevelLibs (#7136)

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10:53 <Begasus> all good now :)

10:54 <LinuxUser> :) nice!

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11:01 <LinuxUser> cu!

11:01 <Begasus> cu

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11:35 <Not-ff83> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+4/-0/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/c8f587b3987e...1ee8292b9f1d

11:35 <Not-ff83> [haikuports/haikuports] TheZeldakatze 1ee8292 - globulation2: new recipe (#6473)

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12:07 <Freefle> So, on my current laptop: Wifi works 100%, the intel graphics driver doesn't seem to set the display mode properly but fallback driver works fine, and.. the laptop's broken touchscreen seems to trigger a division by zero in kernel code somehow

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12:08 <Freefle> The way it's broken makes it constantly disconnect and reconnect over usb, all while also sending bogus position data

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12:11 <FreeFull> So I'll have to blacklist it somehow, and hope that works

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12:15 <haikunonymous> Hi everyone

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12:15 <FreeFull> Hi haikunonymous

12:15 <haikunonymous> is there someone who can help me with developement issue

12:16 <haikunonymous> I'm trying to do darkwyrm tutorials

12:16 <haikunonymous> and right now I'm just down to hello world

12:16 <haikunonymous> with gcc it does not find stdio.h

12:16 <haikunonymous> and I don't know what I'm doing wrong

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12:18 <haikunonymous> I'm trying to develop from within haiku running on a qemu vm

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12:22 <Begasus> haikunonymous 32bit or 64bit?

12:22 <Begasus> not sure it would be relevant though, I guess it should be good either

12:24 <haikunonymous> its a 64 bit nightly that I compiled

12:24 <haikunonymous> sorry i did not give enough details

12:25 <haikunonymous> its hrev56362

12:25 <Begasus> no problem, as mentioned it should be good for the examples there (did a few of them earlier)

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12:26 <haikunonymous> i think its a library inclusion prob

12:26 <haikunonymous> I dont know how to solve it on haiku

12:27 <Not-ff83> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-1/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/1ee8292b9f1d...1195365c32c2

12:27 <Not-ff83> [haikuports/haikuports] ivmai 1195365 - libatomic_ops: bump to 7.6.14 (#7138)

12:27 <haikunonymous> because on another C++ simple hello world it could not find wchar.h when it was alread there under include/tr1

12:30 <Not-ff83> [haikuports/haikuports] diversys pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/1195365c32c2...655f1dac6591

12:30 <Not-ff83> [haikuports/haikuports] diversys 655f1da - libtirpc: fix libtirpc.pc path

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12:35 <Begasus> stdio.h is a header file that should be present I think, but haven't checked there for a while, I'm sure some others can help you (given time)

12:35 <Begasus> heading out here, time for the grandchildren :)

12:36 <Not-ff83> [haikuports/haikuports] diversys pushed 1 commit to master [+2/-2/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/655f1dac6591...f848575840f8

12:36 <Not-ff83> [haikuports/haikuports] diversys f848575 - libvirt: bump version

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14:31 <FreeFull> I couldn't find a single mode that the intel graphics driver would display correctly on my haswell laptop

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14:31 <FreeFull> The pixel colours are correct, but the stride or something is wrong, so it's an unusable jumbled mess

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14:32 <FreeFull> So I'm wondering, how do you do development work on graphics drivers?

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14:35 <FreeFull> Ah, I see mode switching is listed as WIP for Haswell, that'd be why

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14:38 <FreeFull> ynhuser|blahbop: You keep disconnectng and reconnecting

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14:42 <matt3> i apologize 4 all my work

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14:43 <waddlesplash> FreeFull: are you on the nightlies or the beta?

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14:43 <FreeFull> Beta, currently. Have there been changes to the driver in the nightlies?

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14:44 <waddlesplash> yes, very many

14:44 <waddlesplash> so please try a nightly and see if it works better

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14:45 <FreeFull> Will do

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14:50 <Not-ff83> [haikuports/haikuports] waddlesplash pushed 1 commit to master [+4/-8/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/f848575840f8...c8d1cdc783a3

14:50 <Not-ff83> [haikuports/haikuports] kenmays c8d1cdc - ffmpeg: bump version (#7092)

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15:14 <FreeFull> ok, the nightly intel driver works perfectly

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15:14 <FreeFull> At least, as long as I use the default refresh rate

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15:16 <FreeFull> Another question, how can I disable my laptop's touchscreen inside haiku? I accidentally sat on the laptop in the past, and now the touchscreen keeps sending bogus touch data

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15:16 <waddlesplash> hmm I'm not sure we have a way to just disable an input device

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15:17 <waddlesplash> check Input preferences, but if not, we may need a ticket for this

15:17 <FreeFull> There wasn't anything for disabling it in the input preferences

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15:17 <FreeFull> It connects over USB

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15:18 <FreeFull> I'm getting a new laptop, so I wouldn't mind keeping this one as a Haiku machine, especially since the wifi chip works with Haiku

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15:31 <FreeFull> waddlesplash: The ability to blacklist USB devices would be enough, for now.. But I think right now the only option is avoiding loading usb_hid?

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15:32 <waddlesplash> yeah and that's definitely not what you want

15:32 <waddlesplash> so, we need a way to disable input devices more generally, this deserves a ticket

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15:35 <FreeFull> on another note, it seems like Devices still doesn't list USB devices at all

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15:59 <FreeFull> Currently running Haiku, with usb_hid disabled

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16:00 <FreeFull> It's definitely not perfect, but workabl

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16:11 <FreeFull> one weird thing, for some reason scrolling with my touchpad doesn't work

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16:42 <infinitemess> What is the proper place to install libraries not in the repos? I have compiled libmagic and put them in /boot/system/non-packaged/ but gcc linker does not find it there.

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16:42 <waddlesplash> you have to use the correct paths

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16:42 <waddlesplash> /boot/system/non-packaged/develop/headers for headers, develop/lib for libs, etc.

16:42 <waddlesplash> linker only looks in develop/lib not in just .../lib

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16:43 <infinitemess> Ah okay, I'll try that.

16:43 <infinitemess> Thanks.

16:43 <waddlesplash> also don't we have a recipe for libmagic?

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16:43 <waddlesplash> yeah we do, it's part of "file"

16:43 <waddlesplash> you can get develop for it by asking pkgman nicely

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16:43 <waddlesplash> $ pkgman install devel:libmagic

16:44 <waddlesplash> that will find the package with the development files for -lmagic

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16:45 <infinitemess> Ah thanks! I was not able to find it earlier, not the right keywords.

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16:54 <infinitemess> Challenge:

16:54 <infinitemess> All participants are evaluated against this fixed agent, the first version of which is available in the dev-kit.

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16:54 <infinitemess> Oops sorry.

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17:37 <Begasus> Could someone fix this entry/quit for

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17:39 <Begasus> heading down, cu peeps

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19:24 <augiedoggie> someone should /kick ynhuser|blahbop until they get their connection fixed :/

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19:28 <B2IA> (AGMS) The last time that happened to me, I had a half dead Vision running and then failing and restarting.

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19:31 <B2IA> (AGMS) At least the IRC to BeShare bridge doesn't show those connection status messages, so it's relatively uncluttered.

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19:33 <FreeFull> If you're using irssi, you can /ignore ynhuser|blahbop joins quits

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19:35 <waddlesplash> augiedoggie: I was trying to but they were literally here shorter than I could type

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19:35 <waddlesplash> see? even faster

19:36 <waddlesplash> if that happens one more time and I can't kick then I'll ban

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19:36 <augiedoggie> heh

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19:36 <waddlesplash> that's it

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19:37 <waddlesplash> very strange behavior, wonder what the problem is

19:37 <B2IA> (AGMS) Could be due to bad software, or the network stack getting corrupted. Though at least Vision only tries 40+ times to connect and then stops.

19:38 <augiedoggie> yeah, seems like the irc client isn't configured properly if it's rejoining that quickly

19:38 <B2IA> (AGMS) Hmmm, but if it thinks the connection was good, maybe it doesn't count as a failure if it goes down 0.1 seconds later.

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22:25 <FreeFull> Should I file a new ticket about the disabling input thing?

22:27 <FreeFull> Hm, https://dev.haiku-os.org/ticket/16281 is related

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22:37 <augiedoggie> waddlesplash: btw, i can see that deskbar problem with the latest 32 bit nightly now and i have that font size set to 12

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23:36 <mbrumbelow[m]> Has anyone seen an issue where after leaving Haiku running for a few days the clock looses a few minutes of time? I have had Haiku up and running for two weeks on my NUC with no reboot and the clock is behind by ten minutes.

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23:40 <FreeFull> Hm, Haiku does NTP synchronisation at boot, but I'm not sure if it also synchronises outside of that

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