<mmu_man>
You can force a sync in the Time preferences manually at least
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<B2IA>
(AGMS) Could be that the clock on your PC is running fast or slow, based on the system clock. I don't think Haiku compensates for that, though Linux does have a "drift" detection and compenstation system. Maybe it just needs to be ported. Pet peeve: Haiku not tested for weeks of runtime doing stuff leads to odd problems like this.
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<OscarL>
Ah... that wonderful feeling you get when you, out of desperation already, comment out 3 lines of code, and suddenly the bug fixes itself!
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<OscarL>
(now to try to understand what the heck is going on... as these three lines were there even before I "took over" that codebase... and it worked fine on BeOS :-D)
<OscarL>
before this, I was banging my head due to things working on BeOS, but making my Haiku install set itself on fire.
<OscarL>
Apparently, linking to input_server and libbe (in that order) is not the same as doing libbe and then input_server. I steel need to confirm this one, because the problem might have being the following:
<OscarL>
On BeOS R5, you could have an input_server addon binary under "add-ons/input_server/filters", and symlink that same binary to "add-ons/input_server/devices" (link and binary with the same name), and it would work OK.
<OscarL>
On Haiku it does not, and you have to make sure that the binary and the symlink do not have the same name for them to work.
<OscarL>
I wish I was way smarter, and could pick up these things faster, so I could concentrate on trying to fix my crappy code :-D
<OscarL>
But... that's the life of a true code-monkey, I guess :-)
* OscarL
should treat himself with some bananas, seing that the keyboard-smashing produced some positive results today.
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<bbjimmy>
LinuxUser you are usually not on-line when I am ew yab
<bbjimmy>
you asked about a button
<bbjimmy>
* ew ... re
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<LinuxUser>
@bbjimmy already not needed
<LinuxUser>
i decided to learn pascal instead yab
<bbjimmy>
ok
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<bbjimmy>
can pascal make a haiku gui app?
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<OscarL>
bbjimmy: it did with BePascal (around 2004/2005) :-D
<LinuxUser>
yes it can
<LinuxUser>
i use freepascal
<OscarL>
I've even tried to help with that back in the day (oco and Baldur did almost all the work there)
<LinuxUser>
i use lazarus ide
<OscarL>
(the original project was created by memson)
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<OscarL>
LinuxUser: neat... I should try it some day, at the very least, to see how far along it went from my attempts to do a GUI for mp3trim with BePascal :-D
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<LinuxUser>
no, lazarus uses free pascal
<LinuxUser>
you must install fpcupdeluxe to build lazarus
<OscarL>
I assume it uses the QT backend?
<OscarL>
(on Haiku, I mean)
<LinuxUser>
yes
<OscarL>
That makes sense.
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<LinuxUser>
right
<OscarL>
It IS possible to use pascal code wrappers around the BeAPI (as BePascal did), but... it was a lot of work, with some pretty good results, but dunno if it ever got really usable... I should ask oco about that)
<LinuxUser>
for what reason?
<LinuxUser>
just use freepascal and be happy
<OscarL>
Seen how good some QT ported software runs on Haiku... using Lazarous QT backend makes sense.
<LinuxUser>
note: you need pascal knowledge
<OscarL>
*Seing (my "English" is horrible)
<LinuxUser>
lazarus reminds me borland delphi
<OscarL>
LinuxUser: understood. I started programming on Delphi 1 :-D
<OscarL>
even used Kylix back in the day.
<LinuxUser>
i started programming on c# and visual studio 2012
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<Begasus>
g'morning peeps
<OscarL>
morning Begasus!
<LinuxUser>
g'afternoon peeps
<LinuxUser>
hi begasus!
<Begasus>
Morning OscarL LinuxUser
<LinuxUser>
we talking about pascal :)
<iisi>
Applesoft BASIC, circa 1989. Used to type in listing from the back pages of magazines, then see what I could change. But I started GUI programming with FutureBASIC 1.03 on Mac.
<OscarL>
2:17 AM here... I should make me a coffe if I intend to fix this damn KeyCursor tonight
<iisi>
I've toyed with Pascal recently.
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<Begasus>
There is still the default fpc package if you want to toy with pascal :)
<iisi>
The most I ever did with C outside of uni was fixing up a couple drivers for BeOS R5, to work with a certain Compaq Presario.
<Begasus>
no need to build Lazarus if you don't need it :)
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<Begasus>
fiddled a bit with dbase back in the days
<OscarL>
iisi: awesome! I was too late to actually type back from magazines, but I certainly read those! :-D
<Begasus>
had some basics on COBOL :)
<iisi>
Ah, forgot. I ported a C chatbot to Windows. The only partially-documented differences between POSIX and Windows Sockets was torturous. (-:
<OscarL>
Well, I could say that I started "programming" on dBase III+ :-D
<Begasus>
good old days OscarL :)
<OscarL>
awesome little thing for basic stuff!
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<OscarL>
Thos dBase III+ forms were da BOMB! :-P
<iisi>
Hypercard and FutureBASIC FTW!
<OscarL>
*those
<LinuxUser>
yeah
<iisi>
C required pages of boilerplate to make a Windows window that couldn't even respond to clicking the close button; FutureBASIC made it two lines.
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<iisi>
I'm permanently spoiled, unable to regard C-ish languages as anything but ludicrously difficult for no good reasons. (>^_^)>
<OscarL>
Ah... I only read about HyperCard when I was already old :-D
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<LinuxUser>
huh, pascal even simplier than c#, c++, and c
<Begasus>
Old(er) OscarL :)
<LinuxUser>
huh, nostalgia
<iisi>
Been reading some this about C-with-Pascal-calling-conventions (because, olde classic Mac docs).
<iisi>
this year*
<OscarL>
the lack of a string type was was killed my joy of C (at least having used said dBase III+, Delphi and TurboPascal)
<iisi>
But I still haven't done anything worth uploading about programming in Haiku. (-_-);;;
<Begasus>
I still can't code "Hello world" without a tutorial :D
<OscarL>
(and after 7 years of doing Python only, plus almost 7 years of zero programming... going back to C/C++ is kicking my ass)
<LinuxUser>
yeah hello world is simpliest program :)
<Begasus>
hehe
<iisi>
The lack of useful compiler error messages one thing I hated about C. I have 1387 errors? And the first error in on line 86, column 7? Dirty liar; it's ONE error on line 6: a missing semicolon at the end of the line!
<Begasus>
lol
<OscarL>
iisi: uff, I recall reading about those calling conventions and I remember thinking... man... pascal calling convention kicks butts... but now I don't even remember why :-D
<iisi>
Well, if you just do Pascal conventions _with_Pascal_... I guess it all makes sense. (-;
<OscarL>
something something leaner stack frames or something? leaving some free registers for the compiler to use?
<iisi>
{shrug}
<OscarL>
I mean... in C... IIRC... you *could* force using pascal calling convention somewhat... but at the risk of being compatible with no one else :-D
<OscarL>
I forgot more about programmign than I ever understood :-D
<iisi>
Well, classic Macs had ROM and system routines written in Pascal, so when C compilers showed up on Macs, they had to be able to use Pascal conventions to use those system routines.
<OscarL>
What I remember clearly... is how much I liked Delphi's documentation!
<iisi>
Buuuut...Myst was almost entirely in Hypercard's HyperTalk. Who needs C or its descendants?
<iisi>
(:
<OscarL>
in those days pre-internet... it was almost all I needed to write my Win32 programs!
<Begasus>
We only had magazines to keep us informed back then
<iisi>
I _wish_ I could get the couple classic Macs I've preserved on the internet. One, the NIC died. The other locks up if _anything_ tries to access the Ethernet hardware.
<Begasus>
Those with the free floppy's :)
<iisi>
Yeah, Macworld and MacUser (: ...with the occasional article about BeOS for a while.
<Begasus>
That's how I got to know BeOS (PE) back then
<LinuxUser>
hehe
<iisi>
Yeah.
<Begasus>
Installed it side to Windows
<Begasus>
After that got the Pro version on a fair (Mensys)
<OscarL>
Begasus: bloody hell! I remember buying tonnes of magazings (most already with CDs)... I totally forgot about the ones that came with floppy disks!!!
<Begasus>
hehe, still got a few of the old floppy disks around here (somewhere)
<OscarL>
Begasus: same here regarding R5 PE... installed it on an AMD K5 at 100 MHz, 16 MB of RAM...
<LinuxUser>
yeah, i'll run haikunfrom usb on laptop
<iisi>
BeOS let me save some people's data from corrupted drives, where Windows 9x would blue-screen if you tried, NT would slow to a crawl and eventually freeze, and RedHat would just announce that the drives were unreadable.
<OscarL>
It ran AWEFUL... until I got to install and run SciTech's UniVBE before running LoadBeos.com :-D
<OscarL>
Then... it was GLORIOUS! :-D
<OscarL>
iisi: I remember my jaw dropping when I moved that HDD to another machine... and BeOS booted like it was nothing.
<Begasus>
First contact with RH was a pain
<iisi>
Hehe, yeah, that's fun, OscarL
<OscarL>
Then I used that to impress all my friends :-D
<Begasus>
never got the gui there
<OscarL>
Doing that with Win9x was a dead sentence for that install, unless you removed *I forgot what file* to force it to rescan/reinstall drivers :-D
<iisi>
Windows 9x, officially, required a clean install to move between machines; I proved repeatedly that it just need a LOT of reboots to reconfigure itself to the point that you could install the remaining drivers. \_(-_-)_/
<Begasus>
with all 1* floppy's :P
<OscarL>
*That trick I mention worked on Win95, not on Win98
<iisi>
I didn't have to remove anything from Windows...just lots of reboots, and ignoring spurious error messages.
<OscarL>
Begasus: the one and true "one floppy marvel" still is that crazy QNX demo disk :-D
<andreasdr[m]>
Good morning.
<andreasdr[m]>
QNX was cool
<OscarL>
A full GUI OS on a 1.44 floppy image.
<Begasus>
ah QNX, fiddled there a while also
<Begasus>
and SkyOS
<andreasdr[m]>
Yep
<iisi>
I should pull some machines outa the closet and try recent Haiku builds. It's been a while, beta3 changed something about networking such that our Google Fiber router refused talk to it except over ICMP.
<iisi>
Or something weird like that.
<Begasus>
Moin andreasdr[m]
<OscarL>
(too bad that it was really picky regarding the supported hardware)
<andreasdr[m]>
Moin Begasus
<OscarL>
hello there andreasdr[m]!
<LinuxUser>
i think kolibri os is better than qnx
<Begasus>
Maybe try a nightly iisi
<andreasdr[m]>
Hi OscarL
<andreasdr[m]>
Hi LinuxUser
<Begasus>
OscarL, got your coffee already? :)
<OscarL>
hell yeah! Almost finished my cup :-D
<OscarL>
(thinking I might need another before going back to KeyCursor)
<Begasus>
On my first one now :)
<OscarL>
iisi: networking, even after beta3 had some rough patches...
<LinuxUser>
now i'm preparing my usb flash to run haiku
<OscarL>
but it seems to have improved quite a lot (at least it did on my hardware)
<LinuxUser>
now copying lazarus on it
<iisi>
OscarL: but it used to Just WorkTM for me, unless I was on a machine with unsupported NIC, so I was dissuaded from trying much for a while when it broke.
<iisi>
Now we have an Athena R2 router, but I haven't bother to do clean installs to replace the no-longer-upgradeable old nightlies I have.
* iisi
rolls 1d20 - 6 for Conjugate Verbs
<OscarL>
iisi: same here... I when without any Haiku working machine for quite some times (between alphas / package management / betas)...
<OscarL>
I just keep trying from time to time until it works again :-D
<Begasus>
;)
<OscarL>
I think I currently have like 5 or 6 different installs.
<Begasus>
Lucky I got a almost fully supported laptop here, only wifi doesn't work
<OscarL>
(on 2 machines)
<iisi>
A Solus Linux install that I complained about for years (and repeatedly claimed I was gonna replace) finally destroyed its boot loader; that gives me yet another machine that could be running Haiku!
<OscarL>
iisi: what a win! :-D
<iisi>
O, but that machine has to be in IDE mode instead of AHCI, or the presence of any Haiku bootable device will cause it to not even POST.
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<OscarL>
I got mad a the Solus devs for disabling drivers for no damn reasons.
<iisi>
. o O ( Note to self: remember to change the BIOS setting )
<OscarL>
It took me way too much time to convince them to enable suppport for my crappy "Intel Classmate" clone netbook :-D
<iisi>
Actually, I'll probably wait until cold weather to re-Haiku those old machines. 45 nm electric heaters, they are, with a side-effect of being able to run programs.
* OscarL
looks at his 45 nm Phenom II X4, with a far too inadecuate heatsink/fan setup... I don't know what are you talking about iisi!!!
<iisi>
Ha, one of them is a Phenom II X4, overclocked to 3.1 GHz, and a Heatsink of Unusual Size
<OscarL>
BTW... I just upgraded to this Phenom 45 days ago (from an Athlon II X2)
* OscarL
ponders about life in 3rd world countries.
<iisi>
Another one is a Q6600, overclocked to 3 GHz, and another HoUS.
<iisi>
The only reason I have anything better that those two is that I found somebody hocking a new-ish i7 rig on Craigslist for a surprisingly low price.
<OscarL>
I retired my Athlon K7 900 in 2012 (after 11 and a half years of service)... in exchange for the Athlon II X2 I got, second hand, in 2012... that I just semi-retired after 10 years :-D
<OscarL>
iisi: what's awesome. I HATE e-waste. But also... we don't really have much of a second-hand market here in Argentina (not at least anywhere near where I live)
<iisi>
(and when I went to get it, it was at a computer shop, and they pressed a bunch of free stuff on me that they we going to give a to a recycler that afternoon:
<iisi>
SSDs, Beats headphones, 1070 Ti, a whole _other_ computer with an i5...)
<OscarL>
and even then... as most of us can't afford the newer stuff... the old stuff is way too pricey.
<andreasdr[m]>
Ok. Dudes. Some fancy Haiku conference videos around?
<OscarL>
andreasdr[m] the ones on Google?
<OscarL>
I forgot the correct name...
<OscarL>
lets see if I can find it.
<LinuxUser>
i'll go drink tea
<OscarL>
andreasdr[m]: youtu.be/LxAQxGqB1A8
<andreasdr[m]>
Thank you OscarL
<OscarL>
andreasdr[m]: Sorry... I copied the url wrong.. this one is the valid one: https://youtu.be/LxAQxGQB1A8
<andreasdr[m]>
It tells "Video not available"
<OscarL>
(im currently on a VM, and I don't have clipboard integration :-D)
<andreasdr[m]>
Coooool
<andreasdr[m]>
Thank you!
<andreasdr[m]>
We need more of this.
<OscarL>
That video presentation is old, but it was really nice to see the faces of AxelD and Bruno
<OscarL>
(and JLG at the end :-D)
<OscarL>
(or it was at the beginning? I forgot... I watched it way too long ago :-D)
<iisi>
Amazon has be trying to get me to watch all the old James Bond films, and now wants me to hurry up before most of them expire at the end of the month.
<iisi>
So....I caved to a few of them, occasionally scoffing at silly things like tires that squeal on bare dirt or a sandy beach. :-D
<OscarL>
iisi: LOL! I never thought of that, but now that you mention it... I can even picture and hear similar scences in my mind :-D
<iisi>
And metal-on-metal sounds when a blade hits something soft, like a belly...
<OscarL>
I need an auto-correct on Vision.
<iisi>
At first I thought you meant "for when I'm watching old dumb films". Hehe
<OscarL>
and all the ricochet bullets making exactly the same sound :-D
<iisi>
O no, they have at least three different ricochet sounds in You Only Live Twice.
<OscarL>
iisi: that could be a cool video/audio filter!
<OscarL>
I need one for old movies with really crappy soundtracks...
<OscarL>
you know the ones... the ones that go: "uh!! suspence! CHAN chan cHAAAAN".
<OscarL>
with awful dissonant notes.
<OscarL>
a whole effing orchestra... and they have them do awful sounds for 3/4 of the movie :-(
<OscarL>
Alright... coffee #2... back to trying to shake some rust on my C++ totally leet skillz!
<OscarL>
Do enabling these warning seems enough? "-Wall -Wextra -Wundef -Wshadow -Wmissing-declarations -Wredundant-decls"
<LinuxUser>
:) coffee #2 :) ^.^
<OscarL>
(it is for an input_server addon, and its corresponding preflet app)
<iisi>
Add some niacin to dilate the capillaries, taurine and guayana for unproven mental benefits, and a donut.
<iisi>
guarana*
<OscarL>
I should add some alcohol... and you would too if you saw my "code" :-D
<iisi>
Don't mix uppers and downers
<OscarL>
and NOW you tell me?!
<OscarL>
:-P
<OscarL>
(besides... I'm already bipolar... too late :-D)
<iisi>
O, and B vitamins. Felt like I was forgetting something.
<OscarL>
I wish I knew about "make -s" sooner. It help with reducing the noise while dealing with all the errors g++ is throwing at me :-D
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<OscarL>
Crap. I can't push to github using https auth. Another thing to catchup with :-( (man.. I'm too rusty)
<OscarL>
And... WebPositive is not rendering the GitHub docs now :-(
<LinuxUser>
OscarL try otter
<OscarL>
Thanks LinuxUser!
<OscarL>
For now (as I'm on a Windows host) I'll use Firefox outside the VM... I just wish I had clipboard integration in VirtualBox :-D
<Begasus>
heading out, dogschool, cu later!
<OscarL>
later Begasus!
<iisi>
Copper later (:
<LinuxUser>
cu begasus!
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<OscarL>
any easy way of killing input_server from CLI? (politely asking it to restart with "input_server -q" ain't working reliably for me)
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<OscarL>
it seem we don't have a "pidof" :-(
<iisi>
"hey input_server quit" ?
<OscarL>
I shall see if that one works. Thanks iisi.
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<OscarL>
iisi: that worked well! (No I shall see if "input_server -q" was just failing due to my leet codez! :-D
<OscarL>
*Now
<iisi>
I saw a reference on a closed ticket saying that the the code which handles "input_server -q" is "very questionable".
<iisi>
It's an old ticket, but prompted me to look for other methods (-:
<OscarL>
iisi: Ah, that certainly could be it. But don't dismiss my bugs just yet! :-P
<OscarL>
Welp... now that I fixed some issues on how I installed these input_server addon... all seems to work as intended (regarding the input_server restart).
<OscarL>
Progress at last!
<OscarL>
this makes testing much less painful than the last time I've tried... I was having more KDLs than heartbeats.
<OscarL>
Well.. it seems that input_server -q is just lying to me :-D (it an't quitting sh*t)
<OscarL>
Back to trying with "hey".
<OscarL>
Mmm.. "hey input_server quit" seems to be lying to me too :-( Back to the caveman ways of killing input_server manually from ProcessController, I guess :-(
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<OscarL>
Or I guess I should see if I can write a poor-man's pidof with ps, grep and some of those sed/awk/whatever that I always neglected to learn :-D
<PulkoMandy>
the launch daemon will automatically restart it
<PulkoMandy>
so you need to stop it from there using launch_roster first
<PulkoMandy>
(make sure you have a plan to restart it without a keyboard and mouse, of course)
<OscarL>
Thanks PulkoMandy. Should input_server appear on output of "launch_roster list"? (it doesn't here)
<OscarL>
And I should just do a "launch_roster stop input_server" or similar? Does launch_rostear gets called from an init script somewhere? (sorry if this are too basic questions!)
<PulkoMandy>
there is no init script in schell form anymore, all servers are started by launch_daemon which is a bit like apple launchd or linux systemd. There are files defining how and when each thing is started
<PulkoMandy>
no problem for basic questions, unfortunately our documentation is very lacking
<PulkoMandy>
I'm booting my haiku laptop so I can provide more details
<OscarL>
Awesome, thank you so much!
<x512[m]>
PulkoMandy: Isn't input_server started by app_server? Or it is changed already?
<PulkoMandy>
ah, maybe it's not migrated yet?
<PulkoMandy>
so, for system services the launch file is in /system/data/launch/system but app_server and input_server are not there because they are part of the "user" session (in theory there could be multiple user sessions for different users later)
<PulkoMandy>
I don't remember where the user file is
<PulkoMandy>
yes, /system/data/user_launch/user
<PulkoMandy>
and indeed this only starts app_server, and deskbar/tracker or firstbootprompt depending on the system state, and a few other scripts
<OscarL>
So, progress is kinda slow (I've being using Haiku on an off since before it had a GUI at all.
* OscarL
remembers booting Haiku to to the might "consoled" text mode in all its glory :-D
<x512[m]>
OscarL: ARM progress speed is increased after my RISC-V port.
<OscarL>
That was on real hardware, around 2004/2005, when I was testing my driver for the SAA713x TV/FM card.
<x512[m]>
Some parts or RISC-V port are reused for ARM (FDT bus, VirtIO devices, PCI etc.).
<OscarL>
x512[m]: all too true! I'm always marvelled of the work you guys do!!!
<OscarL>
Even when I wasn't running Haiku... I kept reading the commit logs and watching Trac.
<OscarL>
Those are the type of "news" I like to read :-D
<pciuch>
x512[m], meybe near but not working, I run linux on openstick
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<OscarL>
x512[m]: So I remember reading about your work on the RiscV port, always with a smile on my face!
<pciuch>
gui haiku is very usefull, why not moving gui to separate package
<pciuch>
for linux or other system
<LinuxUser>
hi begasus!
<OscarL>
LinuxUser: Begasus hasn't returned yet (AFAIK).
<LinuxUser>
ok
<OscarL>
pciuch: because the original goal of Haiku is to create an open source version of BeOS, not to create yet another DE for linux, I guess.
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<OscarL>
In the past there were several attempts to do what you suggest.
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<pciuch>
OscarL, No only linux, gui for minix, solaris, hurd qnx ;) haiku have small teams, when porting gui to other system many people can work on improve it
<OscarL>
IIRC... there were ZevenOS, BlueEyedOS, and CosmOS.
<OscarL>
pciuch: still... that was not the goal the creators of Haiku had in mind.
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<pciuch>
Everyone would like his system to be only his , but life shows that it is better to share. Writing programs together makes sense. See Haiku uses bash, ls and many Linux programs. Why not move gui as a separate project.
<OscarL>
you don't go to the creators of... say.... the Dolphin emulator and ask them: why don't you create an emulator for the PlayStation... they want to do an emulator for GameCube, and that's what they do.
<OscarL>
It is a hobby OS, a serious hobby for some, mind you, but it is still something that people do just because they like,,,
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<OscarL>
like with sports... if you like X sport.. and not another... why would you change? because more people like to do something you do not?
<pciuch>
I'm not saying to move everything and integrate everything with everything. I'm saying to move one thing. Just like bash is shared so share gui.
<OscarL>
Anyway... as I've said, some people tried to replicate the BeOS/Haiku GUI (at least its look-and-feel)... using the Linux kernel underneath... those projects are currently dead.
<OscarL>
So it seems not enough people cared about that anyway.
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<OscarL>
LOL, I fix the KeyCusor double-click issue on Tracker and with app's titlebar, but now it works awefully with Deskbar. I need a brain transplant.
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<MelMalik>
my friend LinuxUser reports that they booted a 64-bit x86 computer which supported both UEFI and BIOS with a USB stick that had the Haiku ISO directly burned to it (no other partition table) and after all components having loaded, it went to a black screen
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<LinuxUser>
specs of laptop: hp envy 15, intel core i7 4700 MQ amount of ram: 6 gigabytes, videocard: Intel hd graphics 4600, nvidia geforce gt 740M
<OscarL>
MelMalik: I guess he should try again, selecting the safemode video in the bootloader, and see if that allows him to boot using the vesa (or framebuffer) driver. If that works, he should grab the /var/log/syslog file (or syslog.old), to see if it shows what went wrong when the screen turned black on the previous attempt.
<OscarL>
LinuxUser: try the above, if you can. And search https://dev.haiku-os.org to see if there are known issues with that particular videocard.
<LinuxUser>
i just need to select safe mode?
<OscarL>
I can never rembember the proper options from memory :-( we need a booloader emulator for these casess :-D
<LinuxUser>
:( i select safe mode and same occurs
<OscarL>
Let me see if I can bootup a VM and guide you
<LinuxUser>
i hold shift key and bootloader options appears
<MelMalik>
yeah
<MelMalik>
um
<OscarL>
That's correct. Sadly, VirtualBox doesn't lets me open another VM :-(
<OscarL>
Now it did.
<OscarL>
the option read:
<MelMalik>
(try reducing the amount of ram)
<OscarL>
"Use fail-safe graphic driver"
<OscarL>
MelMalik: it was an issue with some serial ports I had enabled for other things :-D
<LinuxUser>
yep! works!
<OscarL>
LinuxUser: Just in case: Shift at boot to get the bootloader menu... then go to "Select safe mode options" -> Use fail-safe graphic driver".
<LinuxUser>
i need to choose use fail-safe graphic driver!
<OscarL>
Damn... I type really slow :-D
<LinuxUser>
i already tried. works!
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<OscarL>
you could look at the /var/log/syslog (or syslog.old) if they are present. Maybe there is more info there about what went wrong before.
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<LinuxUser>
wifi works!
<OscarL>
great!
<LinuxUser>
thank you very much!
<OscarL>
no problem...
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<OscarL>
LinuxUser: you can go to "/boot/home/config/settings/kernel/drivers", open the "kernel" file...
<OscarL>
and remove the comment (#) on the line that reads:
<OscarL>
#fail_safe_video_mode true
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<OscarL>
then save that file, so on the next boot it should boot with the fail-safe driver automatically.
<LinuxUser>
does anyone know how to change screen brightness
<LinuxUser>
it is livecd changes wont be saved
<OscarL>
Didn't you wrote it on an pen drive?
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<OscarL>
Regarding the brightness...
<LinuxUser>
how i can change screen brightness?
<OscarL>
I think you cannot change the brightness when using the fail-safe driver.
<OscarL>
Not for now at least.
<LinuxUser>
why?
<LinuxUser>
there's no change in settings
<OscarL>
Because the fail-safe driver is a very generic one and most brightness settings tend to be somewhat specific to each hardware.
<OscarL>
I've read that a "generic" one (more or less, using some ACPI functions) could be in the works, but I don't think it is ready yet (or if it will work for what systems)
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<OscarL>
I have a netbook with intel_extreme drivers, and even there, brightness control does not works. Hardware drivers are complex, and HARD to write.
<LinuxUser>
how to change download location in webpositive?
<OscarL>
"Window->Settings: Download folder"
<OscarL>
I mean: Click on the "Window" menu at the top... and follow along.
<LinuxUser>
ok
<OscarL>
You can either write the new location..
<OscarL>
or use the "Browse" button to search for the folder you want.
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<LinuxUser>
cu!
<OscarL>
see you LinuxUser!
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<OscarL>
Mmm, the Input preflet for pointer devices has a weird range of values for the "Double Click Speed" setting. When you move the slider all to the right, it sends the value 0 to BInputDevice::Control()
<OscarL>
But the BeBook says that the minimum should be 100000 microseconds (0.1).
<OscarL>
I mean... when I get a Control code of B_CLICK_MOUSE_CHANGED, and I call get_click_speed()... the range seems to be from 0 to 1_000_000.
<OscarL>
Not really the cause of the bug I'm trying to figure out... but...
<OscarL>
I swear that if the bug I'm seeing is due to PadBloker eating away a B_MOUSE_DOWN event... I'll eat my hat.
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<OscarL>
I should be able to simply blacklist that addon from the bootloader, right? Any way of making that blacklisting permanent? (considering that padblocker is a system addon)
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<OscarL>
Alright, I found the docs on how to disable addons via the "packages" file.
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<OscarL>
Welp... let's see if blocking that addon solves my problem. See later folks!
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<Vidrep_64>
Hi
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