<LinuxUser>
maybe download raw image from haiku site?
<MelMalik>
Begasus, this is about haiku as a guest
<MelMalik>
LinuxUser, I told you that you need to have both the image and the CD connected to the VM
<LinuxUser>
cd?
<MelMalik>
the iso
<LinuxUser>
to install haiku on qemu?
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<Begasus>
MelMalik, the guide is to get Haiku to install and run in qemu as a guest ? ;)
<MelMalik>
Begasus, no, the question that we have
<MelMalik>
LinuxUser, well, yes, but also no, but mostly yes
<Begasus>
heh
<Begasus>
I'm lost now ;)
<Begasus>
Maybe it's my age ;) can't keep up with you kiddos :P
<MelMalik>
naw
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<MelMalik>
you're fine, unless you have brain fog it's probably just our language barrier
<MelMalik>
I would speak Dutch if I knew it and if LU knew it
* OscarL
can't keep up with GCC error messages :-D
<Begasus>
No "real" brain fog :)
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<MelMalik>
welcome back LinuxUser
<LinuxUser>
)
<Begasus>
Happy huntin OscarL :)
<Begasus>
+g*
<LinuxUser>
hmm
<OscarL>
:D
<LinuxUser>
what i should do with that?
<MelMalik>
LinuxUser, to do with what, QEMU?
<LinuxUser>
no
<MelMalik>
uh
<MelMalik>
ok, I'm lost
<LinuxUser>
how to boot this poor flash with haiku on this laptop?
<Begasus>
LOL
<LinuxUser>
??
<Begasus>
sorry LinuxUser , just told MelMalik that I was lost :)
<Begasus>
so it's not my age :P
<LinuxUser>
@Melmalik begasus was lost
<MelMalik>
LinuxUser, you would need to set the CSM on and then reorder the boot order to be the flash first, then windows, on the laptop
<OscarL>
Linux: Didn't you were able to boot it yesterday? After selecting the fail-safe graphics ?
<LinuxUser>
yes
<LinuxUser>
ok
<MelMalik>
OscarL, I seem to recall failsafe graphics worked fine, I guess what I'm trying to do now is trying to get it so that an actual haiku install already made in the VM can be made to use failsafe graphics by default?
<MelMalik>
damn, I need to reboot into debian or spin up voidlinux on this sucker *taps her recased Hewlett Packard Z440*
<Begasus>
°_0
<Begasus>
MelMalik, IIRC there is an option in the kernel file you could use for that?
<Begasus>
If you don't want to blacklist the driver
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<MelMalik>
Begasus, I'm not the one with the issue.
<LinuxUser>
doent work :(
<OscarL>
IIRC, just using dd to write the anyboot image onto the flash should work ok. once you boot it in desktop mode... you can just blacklist whatever is needed.
<LinuxUser>
i meant other
<OscarL>
or am I remembering hooribly wrong? (I do have such a flash drive that I didn't "install", just DD)
<MelMalik>
OscarL, yes, though LinuxUser is trying to write a qcow2 image of an installed Haiku in the qemu
<MelMalik>
which is... I'm just looking over my left and right shoulders and then facepalming, like, what?
<Begasus>
if you need to boot into fail-safe then it's obvious the video driver doesn't work as expected, no need for it then and you can blacklist it (only needs to be done once)
<LinuxUser>
hmm
<OscarL>
MelMalik: welp, dding the qcow2 onto the flash do indeed sounds wrong :-D
<MelMalik>
If I was rich, I'd try some light illegal immigration, and I'd fly a seaplane across the pacific to far enough from Linuxuser's joint that I'd still need to row a canoe
<Begasus>
heh
<MelMalik>
to try to help them out
<OscarL>
LOL :D
<MelMalik>
OscarL, they're in Russia so I wouldn't really be able to get a visa very easily
<Begasus>
Hardly ;)
<MelMalik>
they have very strict immigration controls and I'd need to bust those to visit LU's parents... which would be very creepy also
<MelMalik>
so yeah let's not talk about that
<MelMalik>
yeah, bad ideas
<Begasus>
yep, and given his parents are probably a lot younger then me ... :P
<MelMalik>
anyway, uh, LinuxUser, have you managed to get OVMF installed?
<OscarL>
LinuxUser: yesterday... how you were able to boot Haiku on that laptop? or was a different one?
<LinuxUser>
no same
<Begasus>
after install, "pkgman full-sync" and I'm on par again :D
<OscarL>
LinuxUser: So when it worked yesterday... you booted from where?
<MelMalik>
you would need to run all that as root, and with -enable-kvm on
<LinuxUser>
i wrote iso to usb stick, put it in laptop, selected fail-safe graphical driver and it booted to LIVECD
<Begasus>
that's enough to start
<OscarL>
Begasus: I mostly keep an USB drive with Haiku in case I need to restore Bootman :-D
<OscarL>
Then you should be able to do the same again now, and follow the blacklisting guide to block the driver that causes problems!
<Begasus>
OscarL, have both USB sticks with Haiku at the side, just need to check which arch before I re-install
<LinuxUser>
Now i want following: i have installed haiku on qcow2 image, i converted qcow2 image to raw file, wrote it on usb stick, put in laptop, but when i select usb stick laptop boots windows
<OscarL>
LinuxUser: who knows if that qcow2 to raw to flash thing didn't messed up the image somehow.
<OscarL>
I suggest you use the regular anyboot image just like yesterday instead.
<MelMalik>
LinuxUser, is the windows install on that laptop precious, or would it be ok to destroy it?
<LinuxUser>
it has too low space to work
<LinuxUser>
no, i cant destroy it
<MelMalik>
ok
<OscarL>
LinuxUser: do you have 2 pendrives/flashdrives/thumbrives (whaever the name is) that you can use?
<LinuxUser>
i have 3 flashdrives but only one is free
<OscarL>
Ok. Then you need to use a VM to boot the anyboot, make sure that the VM can access that free pendriver...
<LinuxUser>
with efi?
<OscarL>
And install from the VM to flashdrive.
<OscarL>
I've done that VM to flashdrive too, but only using VirtualBox, in BIOS mode.
<LinuxUser>
ok
<OscarL>
the only "complicated" part was making sure that the VM was able to acces the USB drive
<OscarL>
brb, vision is acting up.
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<OscarL>
That looks way less complicated than some of mine, lol :-D
<Begasus>
I contains windows still on it, and the only one I have access to when I need it, so can't whipe it out, otherwise Haiku would be running on bare metal then
<Begasus>
hehe OscarL
<OscarL>
On this machine I have: 3 Win installs, 2 Linux, and 3 Haikus...
<OscarL>
And several "Data" partitions scattered around.
<LinuxUser>
i'll try install haiku on flash through vm
<OscarL>
Plus some LibreELEC somewhere too.
<Begasus>
An advantage is that you can plug it in on any other laptop/pc that can boot from USB :)
<OscarL>
Aparently I have 4 Haiku installs (must have replaced the LibreELEC partition then)
<Begasus>
;)
<Begasus>
On windows I think I have 3 Haiku installs, 1 BeOS and 1 ZETA still (haven't booted win for a while) :)
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<Begasus>
(in VBox)
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<OscarL>
I think I still have an original Zeta 1.2 CD
<Begasus>
got all up to the latest updates still around and backed up
<Begasus>
also some nice apps from back then
<OscarL>
Bernd sent it to me because at the time I was writing a driver for a TV/FM card :-D
<Begasus>
I did most of the Dutch translation
<Begasus>
and did some checking up on network drivers
<OscarL>
Tried to boot it once, but it ran aweful on my PC (compared to BeOS PE R5 that worked pretty well)
<Begasus>
Worked like a charm for me on the old P4
<Begasus>
Should still be on the hard drive in the tower next to me (that sadly passed away) :)
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<Begasus>
got rid of all the rest only the tower and everything in there is still here
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<OscarL>
I keep reviving my motherboards thanks to replacing capacitors and PSUs :-D
<Begasus>
ps OscarL got my ZETA 1.2 CD at their quarters in Mannheim when we visited there as part of BeBUG (Belgium User Group)
<OscarL>
(the PSUs were all recaped too ;-( can't afford new hardware)
<Begasus>
about the same here OscarL , I recover the laptops someone else in the house replaces ;)
<OscarL>
Begasus: nice! I remember reading about those BuGs and meetups (BeGeistest) and thinking... too bad I can't go there!
<Begasus>
Been at BG a few times, always nice gatherings
<OscarL>
*Can't spell begehiist to save my life, LOL
<Begasus>
BeGeisterd ;)
<LinuxUser>
ok i'll try
<Begasus>
OscarL, roughly translated it's something like : BeInspired
<LinuxUser>
maybe this will work for me =)
<OscarL>
Begasus: duh! I never even thought of lookin up the meaning of the name!
<Begasus>
It helps if you know some German :)
<OscarL>
:-) I manage to misspell "Achtung!"
<OscarL>
Still remember AxelD trying to teach me to speel that one right on emails :-D
<OscarL>
*spell
<LinuxUser>
i wish good luck
<OscarL>
We all need a bit of that LinuxUser! :-) good luck to you!
<LinuxUser>
thank you :)
<LinuxUser>
i with good luck tool! To this great community!
<Begasus>
biab
<LinuxUser>
Flash is done! Now moment of truth...
<m[m]123456789>
LinuxUser: nice having you here ^_^
<LinuxUser>
And great to have this wonderful community!
<LinuxUser>
Now moment of truth: Will it boot?
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<LinuxUser>
Hmm
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<LinuxUser>
I selected flash in boot menu haiku bootloader appears i select haiku from list and it says no valid boot volume?!
<MelMalik>
.... interesting!
<MelMalik>
well that is progress, that it gets to the haiku bootloader
* OscarL
gets an anxiety spike while trying to use git while adressing the comments on his review.
<LinuxUser>
@begasus you're here?
<OscarL>
git always scared me :-D... "detached HEAD" that sounds aweful!
<Begasus>
yep
<LinuxUser>
can i pm you for a bit?
<Begasus>
eeps OscarL , that's a nasty one
<MelMalik>
LinuxUser, please don't ping twice in quick succession like that, it tends to annoy people who've notifs on
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<phschafft>
OscarL++
<LinuxUser>
ok
<Begasus>
And I do have the dogs here that need attention once in a while too :)
<LinuxUser>
ok
<Begasus>
LinuxUser, can't you ask here?
<LinuxUser>
i can
<OscarL>
this is my fist time doing the git dance... trying to follow REALLY close the guide on haiku-os.org... still... I'm sweating bullets.
<Begasus>
did some git basics on my wiki at github
<Begasus>
but that one isn't included :)
<Begasus>
did/collected
<LinuxUser>
@begasus i've a problem: i successfully installed haiku on usb flash when i select haiku from list in haiku bootloader it says no valid boot volume
<OscarL>
Man... I'm so afraid of breaking things up that my hands are shaking, LOL!... time to make some tea.
<Begasus>
lol
<Begasus>
you already told that here LinuxUser
<OscarL>
(easier when it is my own repo... rm and git clone again and all that :-D)
<Begasus>
if kapix was here he could help you out, helped me a lot when I screwwed up many times :)
<MelMalik>
oh yeah
<LinuxUser>
oh no
<MelMalik>
it's possible that bootman is looking for haiku on the SATA (because that's what the flash drive was when LU installed it) but it's not there
<LinuxUser>
i click rescan volumes but failed
<Begasus>
it probably didn't install bootmanager
<OscarL>
Begasus: :-) For now, I think I'm doing ok... (at least I think so) but it is indeed making me too anxious :-D
<Begasus>
what's the link OscarL ? (I'm curious now) :)
<Begasus>
on the thumbdrives I didn't neeed to, on the external drive (installing Haiku to another partition) I had to
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<OscarL>
Begasus: korli was really kind on his review... crazy thing is, the first version I wrote was more in line with his comments than the version I ended up submiting :-D
<LinuxUser>
hmm in qemu same problem
<Begasus>
korli is a coding monster :)
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<MelMalik>
arf
<LinuxUser>
??
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<Begasus>
k, PR for gettext rebuild, now building glib2 against it
* OscarL
goes to read how to rename files on git :-D
<Begasus>
git mv?
<OscarL>
I really don't know, specially because I need to ammed my last commit for Gerrit.
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<OscarL>
I think I'll address the rest of the comments, and leave the renaming after asking korli about it :-D
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<LinuxUser>
HUGE PROGRESS!!
<Begasus>
boot found?
<LinuxUser>
yes
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<LinuxUser>
i made typo when creating partition
<Begasus>
those can be hard to track ;)
<MelMalik>
i have the russian national anthem on my brain and I hate it
<Begasus>
I'm not even going to search for it :P
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<Begasus>
still nice OscarL (even if I don't fully understand what the binary will do) :)
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<OscarL>
Begasus: it returns the PID of the running team you ask it for... so you can use that PID with other tools, like "kill -9" for example.
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<OscarL>
I need a reliable way of killing input_server while testing my input addons :-D
<OscarL>
you could then do: "kill -9 `pidof input_server`"
<OscarL>
(otherwise I had to do it manually using the Team Monitor)
<andreasdr[m]>
Good morning
<OscarL>
hello there andreasdr[m]!
<andreasdr[m]>
Hi OscarL!
<andreasdr[m]>
I saw your "pidof"
<andreasdr[m]>
Coool
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<OscarL>
Thanks :-D. Addressing the review comments right now.
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<OscarL>
I'm sweating like I haven't done since my exams of Physiology on my university days :-D
<Begasus>
Moin andreasdr[m]
<andreasdr[m]>
Moin Begasus
<Begasus>
lol OscarL :P
<andreasdr[m]>
OscalL cool
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<Begasus>
LinuxUser, trying for a record joins here? ;)
<NotWindowsUser>
@begasus this is i, LinuxUser my hexchat was frozen and i cant join with my regular nick anymore. the nick is busy
<Begasus>
We gathered that NotWindowsUser :)
<MelMalik>
trying to get ru/phonetic_dvorak loaded up on this computer
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<LinuxUserHaiku>
my vnc went crazy again :(
<Begasus>
ok, fingers crossed now ...
* OscarL
crosses his fingers too... git push in progress :-O
<LinuxUserHaiku>
i wont reconnect to hexchat now. i'll talk over vision
<MelMalik>
wroof!
<LinuxUserHaiku>
@MelMalik this is i, linuxuser
<MelMalik>
welcome back, LinuxUserHaiku
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<Begasus>
still no luck with gettext :/
<MelMalik>
eph
<MelMalik>
Begasus, is there a way we can create a custom failsafe graphics mode for LinuxUserHaiku which will allow them to run the intel integrated (I think?) graphics driver, and reduce the brightness?
<Begasus>
err ... now it does install?
<MelMalik>
I think LinuxUserHaiku is on an installed haiku yes
<Begasus>
I'm a noob there MelMalik, RudofC is your man there
<MelMalik>
they're not here rn
<Begasus>
Only thing I can think of is blacklisting the driver
<Begasus>
the brightness I don't know
<Begasus>
The Intel one on my build laptop is supported, so I'm lucky there
<LinuxUserHaiku>
my integrated card is intel hd graphics 4600
<LinuxUserHaiku>
maybe i need custom fail-safe mode for nvidia?
<LinuxUserHaiku>
nvidia is my main card
<Begasus>
Intel HD/Iris (SandyBridge Mobile GT2+
<LinuxUserHaiku>
i cant disable nvidia card in bios :(
<MelMalik>
ah,. is that not supported?
<LinuxUserHaiku>
yep
<Begasus>
did you try to blacklist the nvidia one?
<MelMalik>
I don't think nvidia is supported at all on haiku?
<LinuxUserHaiku>
no
<MelMalik>
is it? I'm confused
<LinuxUserHaiku>
how i can blacklist it?
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<MelMalik>
um... idk ;-;
<Begasus>
try that, maybe it will pick the Intel one then?
<Begasus>
same information, just wanted to use another link :)
<LinuxUserHaiku>
ok
<OscarL>
:-D
<MelMalik>
LinuxUserHaiku, why can't you reboot?
<LinuxUserHaiku>
i'm installing qt5
<MelMalik>
is it because you've n- oh
<MelMalik>
ok
<LinuxUserHaiku>
for lazarud
<MelMalik>
can you go over to your other computer and try to jig it
<LinuxUserHaiku>
wifi works fine!
<MelMalik>
nice!!
<LinuxUserHaiku>
like a charm!
<LinuxUserHaiku>
i'm on beta3 not nightly
<Begasus>
LinuxUserHaiku, you can follow the instruction while Qt5 is installing
<LinuxUserHaiku>
ok
<LinuxUserHaiku>
i can
<Begasus>
also install the "libqt5pas" for lazarus
<OscarL>
Lucky you LinuxUserHaiku! I have 3 old mini pci wifi cards, none supported :-(
<LinuxUserHaiku>
think it will installs automatically
<LinuxUserHaiku>
sorry for bad english
<Begasus>
no you have to install it your self
<LinuxUserHaiku>
ok
<LinuxUserHaiku>
i'll do this
<Begasus>
the zip for lazarus only contains fpc/lazarus
<LinuxUserHaiku>
in flash i have many space
<LinuxUserHaiku>
i know
<LinuxUserHaiku>
it already on my usb flash
<LinuxUserHaiku>
ok, i'll blacklist it
<MelMalik>
alright
<MelMalik>
you could've done that while extracting also..
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<OscarL>
is it just me, or Webpositive seems to not hold my logins (in Trac, Gerrit, anyware really) for long. I keen needing to relogin quite offten.
<Begasus>
biab
<MelMalik>
wouldn't surprise me if it's not storing cookies, OscarL
<OscarL>
*anywhere, lol... me and my broken "English".
<OscarL>
MelMalik: yeah... that seems to be the issue. Several times I've lost the text I've written because when I hit "send"... it decides to log me out ;-D
<MelMalik>
awrf
<LinuxUserHaiku>
i blacklisted driver
<MelMalik>
try going through the settings for cookies stuff?
<MelMalik>
LinuxUserHaiku, you blacklisted nVidia?
<LinuxUserHaiku>
yes
<MelMalik>
right
<MelMalik>
give it a kick once your lazarus finishes installing
<MelMalik>
(sorry about the slang, I forget you're Russian sometimes - "give it a kick" here means reboot it, don't literally soccer kick it)
<LinuxUserHaiku>
@OscarL your wifi cards doent work because they are external, my wifi card is internal
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<OscarL>
the mini pcie cards I'm talking about are internal LinuxUserHaiku :-) but their chipset doesn't has a driver, sadly.
<MelMalik>
LinuxUserHaiku, that's not necessarily true - also miniPCI is internal
<MelMalik>
like miniPCIe
<LinuxUserHaiku>
reboot!
<MelMalik>
LinuxUserHaiku, see you soon~
<LinuxUserHaiku>
remind me please which file i need to enable fail-safe for always?
<MelMalik>
that would be some stuff about thekernel parameters
<MelMalik>
< OscarL> did he added "add-ons/kernel/drivers/bin/nvidia" and "add-ons/accelerants/nvidia.accelerant" to the "/boot/system/settings/packages" file?
<MelMalik>
while you were gone
<MelMalik>
HaikuUser: did you have to use failsafe again or did it boot per normal?
<OscarL>
Maybe the intel driver isn't working properly either?
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<MelMalik>
OscarL: maybe
<OscarL>
(and that's why using the fail-safe graphic option works=
<LinuxUserHaiku>
in normal mode black screen
<LinuxUserHaiku>
i'm on fail-safe now
<Begasus>
looks ok
<OscarL>
beta3 is kinda old, I think
<Begasus>
beta3?
<LinuxUserHaiku>
yes
<Begasus>
why not nightly?
<OscarL>
there were many changes regarding graphics drivers since.
<LinuxUserHaiku>
i didnt upgraded
<LinuxUserHaiku>
ok
<MelMalik>
ah
<MelMalik>
um
<Begasus>
oh
<MelMalik>
I need to go afk, i think i overdosed on caffeine
<OscarL>
I would, for now... also blacklist the intel_extreme driver and give it a go...
<Begasus>
change repository for haiku and then run "pkgman full-sync"
<OscarL>
MelMalik: Been there! Take care!
<Begasus>
I would try (but use at own risk Luke) :) to upgrade to nightly
<MelMalik>
i'm mostly just tired and dehydrating
<LinuxUserHaiku>
i already upgraded to nightly in vm. everything is fine
<MelMalik>
nice
<LinuxUserHaiku>
sorry i forgot repo name
<LinuxUserHaiku>
can you say repo name for upgrade?
<OscarL>
followed by a "pkgman full-sync" and a reboot
<LinuxUserHaiku>
now wait
<LinuxUserHaiku>
this is simpliest way to update system!!
<OscarL>
If the updated intel_extreme driver still do not works OK for you... then you should also blacklist it, so you can at least use the VESA one and boot normally.
<LinuxUserHaiku>
ok
<LinuxUserHaiku>
this is veeeery faaast!!!
<OscarL>
I can only update at 250 kbps for some reason.
<LinuxUserHaiku>
for me too
<OscarL>
Must be because I live in Argentina.
<LinuxUserHaiku>
for me maybe because laptop is on chair
<Begasus>
does it go faster if you put it on the table? ;)
<LinuxUserHaiku>
router in kitchen
<LinuxUserHaiku>
my usb flash is fast!!
<LinuxUserHaiku>
@jessicah hi!'
<LinuxUserHaiku>
BAD BRIGHTNESS! MY EYES...
<MelMalik>
probably because it's close to the router and LU has high speed internet at home
<MelMalik>
I know i know
<LinuxUserHaiku>
my poor eyes..
<LinuxUserHaiku>
is there chance to change brightness? Sadly there's no xrandr in haiku
<Begasus>
change background, could maybe dimm it a bit
* OscarL
thinks his "fastest" USB drive does 14 MB/s
<LinuxUserHaiku>
Only one background
<Begasus>
libxrandr-1.5.2.recipe (there is a recipe for it) :)
<LinuxUserHaiku>
yes??
<Begasus>
but we are not x
<OscarL>
a black image is what I would use if everthing else fails :-D
<Begasus>
so it won't help you
<LinuxUserHaiku>
(
<LinuxUserHaiku>
In xrandr i can change brightness
<OscarL>
LinuxUserHaiku: what I do with my netbook is the following...
<OscarL>
I use the brightness control keys while I'm on the bootloader.
<LinuxUserHaiku>
I set background is black
<OscarL>
It allows me to lower the brightness before booting Haiku, and it stays that way for me.
<OscarL>
(I used to use the same trick with Linux a while back too)
<LinuxUserHaiku>
it doent work for me
<OscarL>
:-(
<LinuxUserHaiku>
i tried on bootloader these keys doent work
<LinuxUserHaiku>
because its internal keyboard is partially broken
<LinuxUserHaiku>
i made program background of terminal black and text white
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<Begasus>
I have that here also LinuxUserHaiku
<LinuxUserHaiku>
i customized vision colors
<LinuxUserHaiku>
now my eyes isnt poor
<LinuxUserHaiku>
i love dark theme in apps
<Begasus>
LinuxUserHaiku, there is "thememanager"
<Begasus>
you can change choose another theme there
<LinuxUserHaiku>
Where is sound manager?
<Begasus>
The "Olive" one in there was from me (back in ZETA days) :)
<Begasus>
click on the loudspeaker in Deskbar (right click)
<Begasus>
or that :)
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<LinuxUserHaiku>
found!
<OscarL>
(just in case the deskbar icon doesn't appears)
<LinuxUserHaiku>
will webpositive open youtube
<LinuxUserHaiku>
yes!!
<LinuxUserHaiku>
sound dont work
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<OscarL>
time to reboot. brb
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<LinuxUserHaiku>
hmm sound doent work :(((
<LinuxUserHaiku>
maybe sound is mute?
<LinuxUserHaiku>
hmm no sound in laptop speakers and my external speaker
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<Begasus>
can't have it all :)
<LinuxUserHaiku>
yees
<LinuxUserHaiku>
maybe it muted?
<Begasus>
but you could try opensound (not sure how it all should go there)
<LinuxUserHaiku>
ok
<LinuxUserHaiku>
time to exit
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<OscarL>
I should try at some point to write a CPU frequency scaler driver for my CPUs... (it rans cooler with Haiku on a VBox on Win, than on bare metal).
<OscarL>
But... baby steps... I also need to finish fixing my it87 driver so I can properly mesure the temps too :-D
<OscarL>
I'm reviving code that I wrote in 2004, LOL.
<OscarL>
(too bad that I lost so many brain cells since then)
<Begasus>
lol
<Begasus>
OscarL, one for temps would be nice to have I guess
<Begasus>
can you compile it like it is in Terminal?
<OscarL>
It actually runs already (for ITE8718 SuperIO chips)...
<Begasus>
ah, probably only for those
<OscarL>
you can simply "cat /dev/misc/it87"
<OscarL>
and it dumps voltages and temps...
<OscarL>
some readings are already fine, others need fine tunning.
<OscarL>
(each motherboard can have different offsets/divisors sadly)
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<OscarL>
my original "it87" supported the ITE8705 on my old PCChips motherboard (Athlon K7 times)
<Begasus>
would be nice if that could be integrated in ActivityMonitor with a nice replicant :)
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<OscarL>
Begasus: that's the plan... but I'm too dumo and slow... and easily distracted :-(
<MelMalik>
hi hackkitten
<OscarL>
*dumb
<MelMalik>
er HaikuUser
<MelMalik>
dizzy
<Begasus>
know the feeling OscarL :D
<HaikuUser>
i couldnt connect to my network from first attempt..
<HaikuUser>
because app was crashed several times
<OscarL>
I spent waaaay too much time trying to fix the serial_mouse driver already too :-D
<Begasus>
as you said, baby steps :)
<OscarL>
yup...
<Begasus>
In the old days it was like, compile ... install ... run
<OscarL>
and already got 2 fixes for that, with help from waddlesplash, PulkoMandy, et al :-D
<Begasus>
then there were the bep files (needed to learn something new)
<Begasus>
then the recipes (had to start almost from scratch there too)
<Begasus>
waddlesplash, awake already? ;)
<OscarL>
open project in BeIDE... hit compile :-D... now I have to convert that to makefiles :-D
<Begasus>
for the record, can glib2 live without libintl?
<Begasus>
tried opening it in Paladin OscarL ?
<OscarL>
it worked on some of my old proj files, failed on others.
<Begasus>
yeah, not all can be imported there
<OscarL>
but...I like the makefile engine, so...
<OscarL>
I only wanted to open those proj to see what the hell I was doing :-D
<Begasus>
heh
<OscarL>
(because I couldn't even remember what I needed to link to)
<HaikuUser>
lazarus cant find fpc.cfg file
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<Begasus>
LinuxUserHaiku, tried launching it from Terminal?
<LinuxUserHaiku>
yes
<Begasus>
did you extract in /boot/system/home?
<LinuxUserHaiku>
yes
<LinuxUserHaiku>
what i should do?
<Begasus>
should be in /boot/home/fpcupdeluxe/fpc/bin/*-haiku/
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<LinuxUserHaiku>
hmm, there only fp.cfg file
<Begasus>
*-haiku should be x86_64-haiku
<Begasus>
should be 82 items in there (looking at the one here on 32bit)
<LinuxUserHaiku>
for me 81 items
<Begasus>
on the 64bit I also have 82 items
<LinuxUserHaiku>
i copied it from my second flash
<Begasus>
links aren't always copied over, so it's not the same as extracting a zip
<LinuxUserHaiku>
i need create symbolic link?
<Begasus>
so if you can, delete fpcupdeluxe folder and extract the zip I sent you, that seemed to work before
<LinuxUserHaiku>
ok
<Begasus>
have to step out in a bit, picking one of the kids up at work
<LinuxUserHaiku>
i understood
<Begasus>
;)
<LinuxUserHaiku>
your kid want to see your work?
<Begasus>
?
<LinuxUserHaiku>
you have kid?
<Begasus>
OK, on Arch glib2 doesn't seem to depend on libintl ... maybe we could reduce cycling dependencies there waddlesplash ?
<Begasus>
4 kids, 4 grandchildren, 8 dogs, 4 pups ... (oh and my wife) ;)
<LinuxUserHaiku>
i upgraded haiku to nightly
<Begasus>
biab
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<LinuxUserHaiku>
touchpad buttons dont work
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