<nekobot>
[haiku/haiku] 4a0a64d44643 - AboutSystem: Use BNumberFormat for percentage value
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<Habbie>
waddlesplash, another reboot!
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<romtos>
Hi there.
<romtos>
regarding running Haiku on the the GPD MicroPC, I’ve been asked to provide Chipset names or similar. After a while, I can now provide at least Linux’ lspci & lsusb outputs:
<nephele>
I'm trying to activate the fontforge gui with gdk3, now i notice some compilation errors with that
<nephele>
splinefont.h:2627:15: error: conflicting types for 'locale_t'; have 'char *'
<nephele>
2627 | typedef char* locale_t;
<nephele>
<nephele>
I'm not really sure what the expected fix is for such stuff, is their definition wrong? is ours wrong? is it expected that such stuff may be redefined?
<nephele>
(bbl)
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<PulkoMandy>
Well, types ending in _t should only be defined by the OS and compiler, so if they try to do that, they're wrong
<waddlesplash>
Habbie: try with 4GB memory limit
<Habbie>
can do
<Habbie>
any preference between "pull out a DIMM" and "boot with limit"?
<waddlesplash>
boot with limit
<waddlesplash>
this changes paging behavior iirc
<Habbie>
ok :)
<waddlesplash>
it's a bootloader option
<Habbie>
i have 6GB, btw
<Habbie>
ack, i'm familiar with the list, i also have radeon graphics ;)
<waddlesplash>
you can enable these settings permanently via the kernel config file, you know that, right?
<bbjimmy>
waddlesplash can you change the component and description?
<nephele>
bbjimmy; you should ber able to change the description yourself iirc, anyway you can comment to request it be changed, there are severall people who can do this :)
<bbjimmy>
I cannot
<bbjimmy>
I ment the title, not the description.
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<nephele>
lol. i have the authority to edit it, and view the spam logs... but i get stopped cus my submission is "probably" spam...#
<nephele>
bbjimmy: there
<bbjimmy>
thanks for trying.
<bbjimmy>
It looks like it changed.
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<Habbie>
waddlesplash, removing 2GB did not help
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<zdykstra>
decided I'd try the experiment of using Haiku for my work machine, today. Aside from Slack being a little sluggish in Epiphany, it's going well.
<Habbie>
nice!
<Habbie>
i think i could work on Haiku, if it didn't crash, and if the browser indeed was fast enough
<Habbie>
(i also don't have accelerated graphics right now)
<zdykstra>
I don't think anybody has 2d acceleration
<Habbie>
ah
<Habbie>
and video?
<nephele>
not accelerated either
<Habbie>
ah
<nephele>
browser beeing slow is probably more fundamental stuff than gpu acceleration ;)
<Habbie>
ack :)
<zdykstra>
I expected that I'd notice the missing 2d acceleration, but I don't really seem to
<Habbie>
ok, nice
<nephele>
stuff like the video stuff downloading the whole file and blocking the webview while doing so
<zdykstra>
linux/whatever, EFI FB is dog slow. Here it seems to be pretty quick.
<n0toose[m]>
i was very surprised that supertuxkart could run that well on low settings under haiku
<nephele>
modern OSes don't really use 2d acceleration
<nephele>
just 3d acceleration
<Habbie>
even my editor has hw accel now
<zdykstra>
the only thing I really miss is display power management, I forget to turn my monitor off some nights
<Habbie>
hmm, my screen goes black, but now that you mention it, the led is not blinking
<Habbie>
so it is very actively displaying black
<Habbie>
(besides that, i'd prefer my OS to suspend too)
<tqh>
if your framebuffer is slow in linux it is probably because they use the wrong flags for mapping the memory. You need to have write combining, so you do not do byte by byte writing.
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<OscarL>
Isn't DPMS working for your cards/driver, or ScreenSaver's "Turn Off screen" seeing otherwise not working?
<nephele>
and damn, i dislike header files! it's like the compiler asking me to repeat everything i've already said and punishing me when i get it wrong .-.
<tqh>
it is weird that header files hasn't been in proved in any standard yet. #pragma once or #ifdef doesn't seem that modern either.
<tqh>
improved :)
<nephele>
I guess C++ modules are supposed to be that?
<tqh>
ah, so we just need to ditch gcc 2.95.3 and ...
<tqh>
but will it let me do forward references in the file?
<OscarL>
a hearder guard collition between a third-party C python extention, and a Haiku system header, caused me severe head scratching a while back :-/
<nephele>
not sure, i've not used them yet
<nephele>
we can ditch 2.95 though, if anyone implements the ABI for llvm we can use a recent llvm
<nephele>
OscarL: oof
<OscarL>
I can't even recall how I finally caught that one :-( (fixed upstream, already, thankfully).
<tqh>
I'll just complain about header guards, headers and forward references instead :)
<tqh>
and the preprocessor
<nephele>
make our own language.. c+++ without the stuff we dont want :P
<zdykstra>
all the cool kids make a programming language these days
<nephele>
😎
<tqh>
yes, i will call it systemd-language and it will use .ini files
<OscarL>
That surely will be meet with possitive feedback!
<tqh>
yes, lets forget that. It was mostly because D comes after C and ordinary D already exists.
<tqh>
most languages would be better if they replaced let with imagine though.
<Habbie>
hehe
<OscarL>
:-D
<zdykstra>
quick poll, where do people put their deskbar and in what layout?
<Habbie>
mine is default currently
<Habbie>
because i forgot how anything works
<zdykstra>
I put mine upper left, in the 'thin compact' mode
<nephele>
I have the normal one, with expand all apps and such
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<B2IA>
(AGMS) I just have the big old deskbar along the bottom of the screen.
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<OscarL>
Mostly, default location/layout, with "Tracker always first".
<badkeming[m]>
zdykstra: I like it at the bottom where it maximizes to fill the screen horizontally. Feels weird to me that maximising doesn't use the available space with the default layout
<Habbie>
btw, are replicants a haiku thing or did beos also have them?
<OscarL>
BeOS had them
<Habbie>
ack
<andreasdr[m]>
Arrrr
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<badkeming[m]>
maximising *windows I mean
<OscarL>
Habbie: the goBe Productive "office suite" made extensive use of those, back in the day.. to have spreadsheets in text documents, and such. Think "kparts" :-)
<nephele>
well, it's already in the direction of aqua, a bit
<nephele>
but i want it a bit more glossy
<nephele>
:)
<Habbie>
omg
<nephele>
?
<badkeming[m]>
that is an ... mhmm ... interesting ... choice of colour palette?
<nephele>
well, it's my choice :D
<badkeming[m]>
no argument there ^^
<OscarL>
We have a saying here in Argentina (I guess it is the same in most Spanish speaking countries): "Sobre gustos, no hay nada escrito" (kind of "to each its own" or "There's no accounting for taste.").
<OscarL>
I like the dark background.
<badkeming[m]>
I never meant to imply otherwise =)
<badkeming[m]>
(re. to each their own)
<nephele>
Well, I was more working on the damn rendering of the scrollbar
<badkeming[m]>
I mean, the Motif toolkit came in all sorts of frame colours
<zdykstra>
I set my active frame color to the yellow from the tab
<badkeming[m]>
I see what you did there (yellow ... tab)
<nephele>
I'm making my own controllook, the scrollbars are the first part I really made from scratch, i certainly learned a lot about BShape and such heh
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<zdykstra>
Neat!
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