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g'morning peeps
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hi Begasus.
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[haiku/infrastructure] nielx c621986 - Discourse: container for Discourse 3.0.3
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Begas_VM >
Hola OscarL
05:44
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OscarL >
nice Sunday there?
05:45
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Begas_VM >
at the moment it still is (temp will be around 30C here today - again)
05:46
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Begas_VM >
how is it over there?
05:48
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OscarL >
eh... could be worse :-P
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OscarL >
having "fun" with testing python compile flags.
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Begasus >
so setuptools (>=60) only required for python >=3.12 ?
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Begasus >
could be better too OscarL :)
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Begasus >
colorama only for "nt"
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Begasus >
python3.9 good to go OscarL ?
05:52
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OscarL >
at least on 64 bits. seems so.
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OscarL >
re colorama: some lazy projects "import colorama" without checking the OS, making it a hard depenency, even outside of Windows. I've already patched away one of those the other day.
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OscarL >
s/depenency/dependency/
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Begasus >
leaving it out then (starting to make sense) :)
05:54
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Begasus >
on setuptools ...
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Begasus >
saw the link I posted yesterday?
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OscarL >
That "'setuptools >= 60.0; python_version >= "3.12"' on meson-python seems weird... what they use for < 3.12 ?
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OscarL >
is that specified there?
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Begasus >
It is recommended to use setuptools < 60.0. Newer versions may work, but are not guaranteed to
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Begasus >
for scipy it brakes the build I think
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OscarL >
'tomli >= 1.0.0; python_version < "3.11"', <<< that one is easier to understand.... tomli only needed on older Pythons.
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OscarL >
I see, but what I don't see is"'setuptools <= 60.0; python_version < "3.12"'
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Begasus >
once we hit 3.11 we would have to get some check there too
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Begasus >
yeah, thought it a bit strange too
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OscarL >
because it seems like.... "nah... we don't need setuptools at all, unless you're in >= 3.12", which doesn't makes sense :-D
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OscarL >
things about to get hairy with all the changes on 3.11, and later versions :-/
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OscarL >
3.13 removes LOTS of deprecated stuff.
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Begas_VM >
already working on that? 3.12 isn't offical yet is it?
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OscarL >
2to3, for example, and that will break many, many projects that have been lazy on the move to Python 3.
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OscarL >
3.13 already in alpha.
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Begas_VM >
ps, was reading 3.7 would be supported up to 2027?
06:02
* OscarL
is trying to see the big picture, as to see where it makes sense to put more effort.
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OscarL >
I'm just happy that 3.12 builds, and that the patchset is getting smaller.
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Begas_VM >
will do some testing on 3.9 here before I merge
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OscarL >
3.12.0 (beta2) looking good on Haiku. Release planed for October.
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OscarL >
+1 on the 32 bits check for 3.9, thanks!
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Begas_VM >
guess we can wait on 3.12 and skip 3.11?
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OscarL >
yeah... that was my thinking.
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OscarL >
thus why I "hurried" to 3.12, right after I got 3.11.3 (and now 3.11.4) working.
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Begas_VM >
is there anything Haiku related that could get upstreamed?
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OscarL >
some things, yeah. Part of the reason why I'm trying to streamline the patchsets
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Begas_VM >
will launch a build for 3.9 before I head of to the dogshool :)
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OscarL >
patchset for 3.12 around 25 KB, from ~36 KB for 3.10 (and ~33 for 3.11)
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OscarL >
3.9 builds in ~10 minutes here.
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Begas_VM >
E FileNotFoundError: [Errno -2147459069] No such file or directory: 'crap' :)
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Begas_VM >
on tests forr meson-python
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Begas_VM >
still need to remind myself to use -G when checking :)
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Begas_VM >
Error: unable to resolve required packages for build for python3.9_x86-3.9.17
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Begas_VM >
conflicts :)
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OscarL >
any idea why? (haven't touched any requires)
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Begas_VM >
problem 1: package tk_x86_devel-8.6.10-3 conflicts with xlibe_x86_devel provided by xlibe_x86_devel-0.3.1-1
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Begas_VM >
been discussed at haikuports so I added the conflict
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OscarL >
should be fine on buildmaster, right?
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Begasus >
takes down a few packages here, but nothing really bad
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OscarL >
guess I've unistalled xlibe_devel already :-D
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OscarL >
as long as you don't delete the old states, it should be fast to reinstall as soon as you need them again.
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OscarL >
(still a bit annoying :-D)
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Begas_VM >
whoops :P
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Begas_VM >
cleaned those yesterday :P
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Begas_VM >
some _devel packages and epyphamy (can live without, only installed to check it out)
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Begas_VM >
ouch .... /sources/Python-3.9.17/Modules/mathmodule.c:56:10: fatal error: pycore_dtoa.h: No such file or directory
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Begas_VM >
and it still creates the package??
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OscarL >
yeah, that weirded me out at first.
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Begas_VM >
... /sources/Python-3.9.17/Modules/_ctypes/cfield.c:2:10: fatal error: pycore_byteswap.h: No such file or directory
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Begas_VM >
same here
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OscarL >
not seeing anything like that on 3.10, 3.11, or 3.12.
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Begas_VM >
does it behave the same on 3.9.16?
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OscarL >
no idea, really.
06:30
* OscarL
cares much for 3.10+ :-D
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OscarL >
s/much/more/
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OscarL >
don't think OpenSSL is related to these "missing headers". Maybe just a misconfigured / missing include dir.
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OscarL >
now come that its a "fatal error" but still works... dunno, maybe we're missing those modules from the package.... will double check.
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OscarL >
(after this new 3.10.12 build ends)
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OscarL >
"INFO: Can't locate Tcl/Tk libs and/or headers" mmm
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Begas_VM >
smae errors shown
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OscarL >
on 3.9.16 ?
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OscarL >
easy to miss among so much output, I guess.
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Begas_VM >
and I almost missed them (being outside with the doogs) :)
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Begas_VM >
heh Python build finished successfully!
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Begas_VM >
last "error" shown just before that
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OscarL >
python3.9 -c "import ctypes; help(ctypes)" still works here.
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Begasus >
added a wip label to the PR
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OscarL >
and python3.9 -c "import _ctypes; help(_ctypes)" works too, so... that _ctypes module IS there.
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Begasus >
will check later when I get back from dogschool to see if you found a fix for it or we could leave it as is
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Begasus >
it worked for 3.9.16 so it shouldn't matter on 3.9.17, but if there is a fix it would be better I guess :)
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Begasus >
note to self, don't switch Desktops on Windows like I do on Haiku :)
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Begasus >
it's nice though that Windows uses multiple desktops
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Begasus >
always have the vm running on the second desktop
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Begas_VM >
k, out for a bit, cu later!
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OscarL >
Note to Begasus for later: no idea about those "fatal errors", and I'm too cold and sleeppy to try to figure it out. Good news is that got "--enable-optimizations"
*AND* TEST() running OK on 3.9.17 (with similar results as for 3.10.12).
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OscarL >
read you tomorrow (or whenever I wake up :-D). Later!
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[haikuports/haikuports] OscarL 182e1d8 - python3.9: update to version 3.9.17 (#8847)
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botifico >
[haikuports/haikuports] OscarL d836272 - python3.10: update to version 3.10.12 (#8848)
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botifico >
[haikuports/haikuports] Begasus 361ce97 - pyproject_metadata, new python recipe (#8849)
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[haikuports/haikuports] Begasus 43cc2d0 - pyproject_metadata, keep python3.8 around for now (#8850)
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[haikuports/haikuports] Begasus ebaa334 - meson_python, new python recipe (#8851)
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[haiku/website] nipos 044ba14 - Self-host Noto Sans and Open Sans
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hey guys question, does haiku have a native email server? I want to host my own email from home.
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Rihannsu >
I tried searching docs and I havent installed haiku yet, i didnt find anything
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x512[m] >
Haiku is not supposed to be server OS, I do not know native Haiku mail servers, but it should be possible to port POSIX-based ones.
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andreasdr[m] >
Hi there.
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andreasdr[m] >
Hi Erysdren
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closing down for today, cu peeps!
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