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<botifico-e32c8fbd> [haikuports/haikuports] augiedoggie pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/c502ba6b4c81...a801a1de4c58
<botifico-e32c8fbd> [haikuports/haikuports] augiedoggie a801a1d - bind_utils: fix resolv.conf location (#8893)
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<botifico-e32c8fbd> [haikuports/haikuports] korli pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-1/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/a801a1de4c58...4e4e1252dfd2
<botifico-e32c8fbd> [haikuports/haikuports] hoanga 4e4e125 - abcl: bump version (#8883)
<pairisto[m]> is there a way to call the loopback_frame.cpp's loopback_deframe() (https://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/tree/src/add-ons/kernel/network/datalink_protocols/loopback_frame/loopback_frame.cpp#n35) function in an interface like tun.cpp or would I just have to implement that in tun.cpp myself?
<botifico-e32c8fbd> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+3/-0/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/4e4e1252dfd2...a8c72b68d5be
<botifico-e32c8fbd> [haikuports/haikuports] erysdren a8c72b6 - Add Ken's Labyrinth (LAB3D-SDL) (#8889)
<botifico-e32c8fbd> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-2/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/a8c72b68d5be...c172fe42fe8b
<botifico-e32c8fbd> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus c172fe4 - fonttools, bump version, set python3.9 as default, remove LICENSE file (#8887)
<botifico-e32c8fbd> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+4/-4/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/c172fe42fe8b...492293eb8c05
<botifico-e32c8fbd> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus 492293e - lua, bump lua5.4, make it default (#8875)
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<Begasus> g'morning peeps
<pairisto[m]> zup
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<Begasus> zup?
<Begasus> hi there pairisto[m]
<pairisto[m]> don't know, just saying things lol
<pairisto[m]> hey Begasus
<Begasus> heh
<Begasus> OscarL alive? :)
<pairisto[m]> doesn't seem like he's online
<Begasus> no, hasn't been around for some days, starting to worry he's ok
<pairisto[m]> fair, it might be life catching him up in stuff. you never know :)
<Begasus> yeah, it's too quiet with him not around ;)
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<corey-carranza> Client: HexChat 2.16.1 • OS: Fedora release 38 (Thirty Eight) • CPU: 11th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-1115G4 @ 3.00GHz (1.70GHz) • Memory: Physical: 14.9 GiB Total (7.0 GiB Free) Swap: 7.8 GiB Total (5.4 GiB Free) • Storage: 468.5 GB / 496.4 GB (27.9 GB Free) • VGA: Intel Corporation Tiger Lake-LP GT2 [UHD Graphics G4] @ 8086:9a04 • Uptime: 1h 3m 21s
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<Begasus> biab
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<Begasus> k, looks like the wifi dongle works better with a cold boot
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<erysdren> danke Begasus!
<erysdren> now what random 90s FPS will i port next...
<Begasus> kein problem erysdren ;)
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<erysdren> undefined reference to fts_open()
<erysdren> what lib contains that?
<erysdren> aha, -lbsd
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<erysdren> guess i've decided: ECWolf
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<Begasus> k, let's see if I can get Lazarus up and running here
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<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] pulkomandy pushed 12 commits to master [hrev57117] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=bb2b9b02aac6+%5E4ed150bdc36d
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 1f2e9ca2601e - kernel: ignore overflow warnings in teams.cpp and threads.cpp
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] fdc8b001a93d - print addons: remove invalid use of auto_ptr
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] df66e964dd03 - src/bin: De-duplicate query.cpp, urlwrapper.cpp and remove clockconfig.cpp
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 3fb092979e3c - kernel: provide kernel-level equivalents for math.h and stdlib.h
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 7345ce9a9e23 - usb_midi: use the private kernel headers when building the module
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 5140a1bb94fe - Package Kit/Launch Server: avoid/ignore use of requires keyword
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] b9a6a85bc3b4 - libbsd: rewrite fts.c to avoid error
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] a962cc554341 - Pulse: adjust buffer to maximum
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 5cd344f75aa0 - app_server: fix order of initialization
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<Begasus> k, good to go, cudatext build with lazarus :)
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<LinuxUserHaiku> Hello everybody! I installed haiku beta 4 and pkgman says: couldn't update repository 'Haiku' server not found. Why does it happen? Regards, LinuxUserHaiku
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<Begasus> biab
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<pairisto[m]> question, I am trying to use a semaphore on the driver I am making and I cannot seem to get it to work quite right. I thought I had the code (https://review.haiku-os.org/c/haiku/+/6608/7/src/add-ons/kernel/drivers/network/tun/driver.cpp) for the read function of the driver setup but it is still treated as non-blocking so I am wondering what went wrong with my implementation here ->
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<Begasus> nielx[m], in regards on the system not finding the USB install on a fresh installed image, I got the same thing here, had to plug it in on another laptop so I could boot into the Desktop (Try out Haiku in the first welcome screen), after that the usb booted on this laptop
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<LinuxUser> @Begasus hi
<Begasus> hi LinuxUser
<LinuxUser> Oh i'm glad to see you. I have problem with haiku main repo
<LinuxUser> @Begasus when i try to install anything pkgman says: couldn't update repository 'Haiku' server not found
<LinuxUser> But if I try to "wget" repo's url response goes
<Begasus> since you are running Vision I presume your network is ok
<Begasus> didn't change anything to the repo url?
<LinuxUser> no
<LinuxUser> i tried to readd url but error same
<Begasus> can't tell then, maybe ask around at the forum? (this is a fresh install too and things work fine so far)
<LinuxUser> Did you have this error?
<Begasus> nope, things are fine here
<LinuxUser> :( same error
<LinuxUser> hmm but haikuports works fine
<Begasus> can you paste "pkgman list-repos" somewhere?
<LinuxUser> ok
<LinuxUser> @Begasus https://bpa.st/DJQ62
<LinuxUser> only one repo because i removed all repos before readding
<Begasus> that's for haikuports, not for haiku
<Begasus> should look like this: https://bpa.st/W5DOW
<LinuxUser> no haiku repo because i removed all repos and tried to add them again. Haikuports added, haiku didn't
<Begasus> without haiku in there you want be able to update the system
<LinuxUser> oh you didn't understand me
<Begasus> pkgman drop-repo Haiku
<Begasus> pkgman add-repo https://eu.hpkg.haiku-os.org/haiku/master/$(getarch)/current
<Begasus> if haiku isn't pasted in the link you posted it's no use :)
<LinuxUser> second command fail. server not found
<LinuxUser> I EXACTLY copied the url
<Begasus> tried drop-repo, add-repo, verify with list-repo?
<LinuxUser> yes
<Begasus> something most be wrong, can you paste the full output for list-repo?
<LinuxUser> it is same as https://bpa.st/DJQ62
<Begasus> then you don't have the repository for Haiku in there
<LinuxUser> oh maybe i need reinstall?
<Begasus> no
<Begasus> works here, dropped Haiku and readded with "pkgman add-repo https://eu.hpkg.haiku-os.org/haiku/master/$(getarch)/current"
<Begasus> now it wants to update my beta to nightly, so it works :)
<LinuxUser> :(( last command says: server not found
<Begasus> works here: https://bpa.st/AZSCY
<Begasus> not sure what's happening there then ... internet connections are fine otherwise?
<LinuxUser> yes fine
<LinuxUser> else vision won't work
<Begasus> yeah, just asking :)
<Begasus> checked Preferences --> Repositories?
<LinuxUser> pkgman output: https://bpa.st/2UXS6
<LinuxUser> yes i checked only one repo(haikuports)
<Begasus> weird
<Begasus> maybe someone is blocking you for that access?
<LinuxUser> hmm who? ISP?!
<Begasus> could be?
<Begasus> in the dark here ...
<LinuxUser> i entered repo url on my tablet following output:Route { branch: "r1beta4", arch: "x86_64", version: "r1~beta4_hrev56578_86", path: "r1beta4/x86_64/r1~beta4_hrev56578_86" }
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<Begasus> lol, almost screwed up my repos here now ... :)
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<LinuxUser> @Begasus i back
<LinuxUser> i reinstalled haiku and now there are haiku and haikuports repos but pkgman still says: couldn't refresh repository 'Haiku' server not found
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<Begasus> probably something fishy there LinuxUser, can't tell :/
<LinuxUser> hmm maybe isp blocks??
<Begasus> might be
<Begasus> can you access "google.be"?
<LinuxUser> yes i can
<Begasus> out of ideas here :/ sorry
<LinuxUser> ohh
<LinuxUser> and i cant install anything
<LinuxUser> since every package require haiku package from haiku repo
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<Begasus> almost there ... Warning: POLICY ERROR: "/packaging/notes/bin/notes" needs library "libQt6Sql.so.6", but the package doesn't seem to declare that as a requirement :)
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<Begasus> switching ...
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<botifico-e32c8fbd> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+2/-0/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/492293eb8c05...ff6e77c78311
<botifico-e32c8fbd> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus ff6e77c - notes, new recipe (#8894)
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<HaikuUser2> hello
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<erysdren> heya
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<zdykstra> morning all
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<HaikuUser> hello
<erysdren> howdy
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<HaikuUser> Wanted to use Haiku as a daily driver
<HaikuUser> I'm web developer and I wanted to use Haiku as a daily driver. I mostly deal with api development using aws.
<HaikuUser> My concern was safety and backdoors etc..
<HaikuUser> I came across this project called AntiVirus a python based program. Developed by cookie0 and Len-Stevens
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<|cos|> Backdoors in Haiku?
<|cos|> ...or using Haiku to avoid backdoored software?
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<HaikuUser> Thats a good question
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<|cos|> My understanding of the world is that one needs to be quite special to have backdoored software as a real threat.
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<|cos|> As for running Haiku as a daily driver, go for it! Seems like a good enough idea. I'd say it's no less secure than the alternatives in practise. Typical Linux distributions and Windos alike are setup to allow sudo without re-authenticating anyways.
<HaikuUser> oh ok i see
<|cos|> One big blocker for putting Haiku on hardware that leaves my apartment is the lack of encrypted filesystems. I hate the idea of forgetting a laptop on a train, and not having the need to replace the hardware being the biggest issue.
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<|cos|> Maybe I should rephrase that as a question. Is there any convenient way to make the home directory encrypted on Haiku? My searches gave that full disk encryption is a non-starter.
<HaikuUser> I don't think linux filesystems are encrypted by default
<erysdren> Haiku uses the BeFS file system, not ext
<HaikuUser> I know but again encryption is an option for other os's but not haiku right?
<|cos|> On Linux one typically creates a LUKS layer between the first layer partitioning and the filesystems.
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<augiedoggie> the only disk encryption for haiku that i'm aware of is the one axeld wrote
<augiedoggie> it's not full disk, and i don't think you'd be able to encrypt your home dir
<augiedoggie> er, not boot disk, is what i meant
<|cos|> augiedoggie: Thanks! I found that one, realized it hasn't seen any activity for quite a while and kind of assumed it's not too widely used.
<augiedoggie> eh, i wouldn't call 8 months "quite a while"
<HaikuUser> Maybe i need to study on the file system again.
<HaikuUser> I didn't break my install yet but I have to add --user when using pip to install python modules
<HaikuUser> To be honest I don't know why I started messing with python on haiku
<augiedoggie> i thought OscarL and Begasus had those problems fixed
<augiedoggie> have you updated the installed packages?
<|cos|> augiedoggie: You're absolutely right! I must have misread that somehow. Got the impression the repo was stale since creation, but it seems I'm having flawed perception. Thanks!
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<HaikuUser> As far as having sensitive data on haiku I like the OS and wanted another tool to use for development and other hobbies
<HaikuUser> augiedoggie: I'll check out drivencryption
<HaikuUser> I'm not worried though about that i won't store passwords or anything. I did wonder about "passwd"
<HaikuUser> Sorry* I'm not worried about storing sensitive data.
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<phcoder> Chromebook keyboard is a PS2 keyboard but needs a few remaps like Super+right needs to remap to end and multimedia key to F<number>. What's the best way to implement it? A config option or somehow to detect Chromebook? Driver-level remapping or something more high level?
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<Begasus> augiedoggie, I haven't touched pip :) , but iirc there were/are some issues with it?
<augiedoggie> phcoder: probably just create a new keyboard layout that the user can choose from the Keymap preferences app
<augiedoggie> you can also just remap keys without creating a new layout
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<HaikuUser> Is there a acceleration driver for the AMD RadeonHD Palm (6310) graphics card?
<Begasus> not that I'm aware off, no hardware acceleration
<HaikuUser> 3D Hardware Acceleration is what i meant
<HaikuUser> ok cool i guess i'll have to stick to more console programs
<HaikuUser> I wanted to learn some graphic design on Haiku and I installed blender to test out some 3D stuff
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<khl> hi, I'm trying to use an USB sound adapter but it seems unrecognized
<khl> is correctly listed on listusb as Audio Adapter but I can see anything in syslog
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<khl> * can't
<khl> any tip to try to make it work?
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<Begasus> try asking around at the forum? no experience with usb audio here
<khl> ok :)
<Begasus> happy sound works out of the box here :)
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<HaikuUser> What about this one? https://github.com/X547/RadeonGfx
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<HaikuUser> I tried to compile this to see if that could give me some 3D Acceleration but I'm not sure if I'm building it right.
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<botifico-e32c8fbd> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-1/±1] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/ff6e77c78311...2c417281b0cd
<botifico-e32c8fbd> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus 2c41728 - tuxracer, revbump enable for 64bit, 32bit secondary architecture, enable sound, fix save/options path (#8897)
<Begasus> best ask x512[m] for that HaikuUser
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<Begasus> closing down here, cu peeps!
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<botifico-e32c8fbd> [haikuports/haikuports] diversys pushed 1 commit to master [+2/-0/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/2c417281b0cd...9feb75caf060
<botifico-e32c8fbd> [haikuports/haikuports] hfsfox 9feb75c - pycairo: add recipe (#8895)
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<phcoder> @augiedoggie: what is the syntax of those files? I don't quite get them
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