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<erysdren> any equivalent of sudo on haiku?
<erysdren> so i can write to the system dir
<waddlesplash> no, you can't, it's a read-only fs
<waddlesplash> you can however write to /system/non-packaged
<waddlesplash> which is also in PATH
<waddlesplash> if you need to modify things in /system directly, change what packages are installed or use the blocklist feature
<erysdren> ty
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<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] waddlesplash pushed 2 commits to master [hrev57118] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=5d39116f1058+%5Ebb2b9b02aac6
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 2075595c789b - fdt: expose FDT data to userland
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 5d39116f1058 - fdt: copy FDT data from kernel_args to kernel heap
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] waddlesplash pushed 1 commit to master [hrev57119] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=0a8972bbeab5+%5E5d39116f1058
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 0a8972bbeab5 - Cortex: initialize the log message
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<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] waddlesplash pushed 2 commits to master [hrev57120] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=30fda09a952e+%5E0a8972bbeab5
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 50330091b046 - bfs: Disable asynchronous IO routine when KDEBUG_RW_LOCK_DEBUG is enabled.
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 30fda09a952e - kernel: Rewrite KDEBUG_RW_LOCK_DEBUG.
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<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] waddlesplash pushed 1 commit to master [hrev57121] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=a41f112b0797+%5E30fda09a952e
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] a41f112b0797 - libroot: Downgrade lock assertion into a syslog print.
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<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] waddlesplash pushed 1 commit to master [hrev57122] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=1676a41ec58d+%5Ea41f112b0797
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 1676a41ec58d - zip: Remove last remnants.
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<Udi> of all the text editor I've tried so far, KDevelop is my favorite. Notepadqq is not bad but I like to indent a block of code by simply pressing Tab
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<WildKeccak> Blocking is a horrible field name in Trac :) It's not clear whether this is blocking something else or something else is blocking this.
<WildKeccak> It's contextually ticket is blocking.
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<Begasus> g'morning peeps
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<botifico-e32c8fbd> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/23ac12d24b52...ae2ac37af374
<botifico-e32c8fbd> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus ae2ac37 - xrick, fix launch from Tracker/Deskbar (#8907)
<botifico-e32c8fbd> [haiku/website] pulkomandy pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-0/±0] https://github.com/haiku/website/compare/019e3b705a42...27fa845f2d11
<botifico-e32c8fbd> [haiku/website] Swangeon 27fa845 - TUN/TAP Development Update 2 (#640)
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<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 0f293bd7b676 - PowerStatus: Implemented sound cues for low battery and charging
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] nielx pushed 1 commit to master [hrev57123] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=0f293bd7b676+%5E1676a41ec58d
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<Begasus_> still working fine :)
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<HaikuUser> moin
<Begasus> moin HaikuUser
<HaikuUser> mich interessiert ob haiku mein epson xp-255 unterstützt?
<Begasus> nur ein weg um raus zu finden (mein Deutsch ist nich so gut) :)
<Begasus> raus/aus?
<HaikuUser> raus :)
<Begasus> meist ist es hier im English, ist auch ein chan #haiku-de
<HaikuUser> is there a database where I can read if the printer is running?
<Begasus> BeSly should have a list on supported hardware that is kept alive
<Begasus> printers should be listed there too
<Begasus> not that much listed there :)
<Begasus> but got a newer printer here (HP ENVY Inspire) which I got printing over network
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<Begasus> hmm ... do we need the quasselclient?
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<Begasus> does "strip" do the same as creating a debug package? (no debug in the binaries so no use, but if it does it's no use to "strip" them too?)
<phschafft> ?
<phschafft> strip does remove the debug information from a binary.
<Begasus> k, thanks, then there is no use in using either :)
<Begasus> no debug information in the binaries nor libraries
<Begasus> don't think quasselcore should be in the Deskbar, should be launched from Terminal I think (after creating some ssl cert for it)
<Begasus> yep ... quasselcore — the daemon process for the Quassel IRC client
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<emery> anyone know if the open command existed before nextstep? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_(process)
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<emery> i didn't realize that xdg-open was a port of open, and now I want to know how deep this goes
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<phschafft> Begasus: basically debugging data can not be added afterwards. however it makes sense to remove it for end users as they don't need it virtually all the time. and for the rest the solution is to have debugging packages which basically contain what strip removes but in a seperate set of files. so they can be installed as needed. however that process needs an unstripped binary to begin with.
<phschafft> emery: thank you for the link. :)
<phschafft> I actually have a ticket at work for something related to the idea. basically such an open command that works over the network.
<phschafft> so that you can open a file e.g. on a NAS and do all operations with it transparently. with the tool taking care on how it does that. e.g. if you're working mobile you may need to access the file via the open internet while when in office you may have mounted the NAS.
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<andreasdr[m]> Hi there!
<Begasus> phschafft, yeah, that's what we do mostly, but for quassel strip was used in the recipe, but as it doesn't strip anything it's useless there
<Begasus> hi andreasdr[m]
<Begasus> stylesheets added to quassel ... check :)
<emery> phschafft: I have my own open that is network transparent in theory. I though I was critiquing how xdg-open worked but then I found out that I wasn't giving proper credit
* phschafft nods.
<phschafft> emery: ah, I see. :)
<phschafft> emery: is your tool public somewhere?
<emery> phschafft: its complicated and tied to a certain protocol https://git.syndicate-lang.org/ehmry/xdg_open_ng
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<emery> did BeOS have an `open`?
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<phschafft> emery: sure. just collecting ideas for our project. ;)
<phschafft> and if there is something fun in there it will be you who will be credited ;)
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<botifico-e32c8fbd> [haikuports/haikuports] pulkomandy pushed 1 commit to master [+2/-0/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/ae2ac37af374...c258690ec224
<botifico-e32c8fbd> [haikuports/haikuports] nielx c258690 - GCC: Add recipe for 13.1.0
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<Begasus> k, why doesn't the icon show in the Deskbar menu once launched? (in the application menu and in Tracker it shows fine ...
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<x512[m]> Only for me?
<x512[m]> Begasus: ^
<Begasus> SOURCE_URI change maybe?
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<Begasus> those should work
<Begasus> could use an update too it seems :)
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<Begasus> x512[m], this works for the current recipe: SOURCE_URI="https://invisible-island.net/archives/mawk/mawk-1.3.4-20171017.tgz"
<x512[m]> Begasus: Can you upload pull request?
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<Begasus> sure
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<Begasus> x512[m] want me to merge too? (checked build here on 64bit that's fine)
<x512[m]> Does it need revision update?
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<Begasus> well, would explain the update on the recipe, but isn't stricktly needed
<Begasus> will do a rebuild on buildmaster too then
<x512[m]> Fine for me to merge.
<Begasus> pushed a change for TEST_REQUIRES too (was missing cmd:cmp there)
<botifico-e32c8fbd> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/c258690ec224...436cbcac98a2
<botifico-e32c8fbd> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus 436cbca - mawk, fix SOURCE_URI (#8908)
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<bbjimmy> is it just me or is all on-line video broken on haiku for the last year?
<bbjimmy> youtube.com : "Your browser can't play this video"
<bbjimmy> "update your browser"
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<cocobean> Begasus: Hello... any need to keep old rust recipes?
<Begasus> you'd have to ask nielx[m] for that cocobean :)
<cocobean> No problem.
<cocobean> Was just checking if we can see if cbindgen builds on the x86 buildbot.
<x512[m]> bbjimmy: Use Epiphany for Youtube.
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<cocobean> Begasus: for cbindgen... the last build had an x86 buildbot networking issue with getting files from the network.... don't think it was ever retried: https://build.haiku-os.org/buildmaster/master/x86_gcc2/logviewer.html?buildruns/4623/builds/81028.log
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<Begasus> no mather what I try, keeps iddling on one cpu on this ... [ 99%] Building CXX object CMakeFiles/_fife.dir/engine/core/gui/fifechan/widgets/resizablewindow.cpp.o
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<cocobean> bbjimmy: Also, Otter Browser works with Youtube.
<Begasus> that's an old error cocobean
<cocobean> Yes. Should work now.
<Begasus> checked a local build on 32bit?
<cocobean> Firefox x86 was building with the package I made offline.
<cocobean> Yes.
<cocobean> (oh, on nightly though)
<Begasus> k, make a PR for it then, let's see how it goes on buildmaster
<cocobean> I did.....
<Begasus> ow ... missed probably :)
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<botifico-e32c8fbd> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/436cbcac98a2...ba1026f3c581
<botifico-e32c8fbd> [haikuports/haikuports] kenmays ba1026f - cbindgen: revbumped for x86 build (#8900)
<Begasus> was too busy trying to get fife to build (after bumping fifechan here)
<cocobean> Thanks! I'll review in a bit.
<Begasus> np, check buildmaster in between :)
<cocobean> build issue: runtime_loader: Cannot open file libssl.so.1.0.0 (needed by /boot/system/bin/x86/cargo): No such file or directory
<cocobean> May need to rebuild cargo after SSL update?
<cocobean> (didn;t affect nightly)
<Begasus> rust should be on par with latest ssl I think
<Begasus> quassel icon shows ok on 32bit
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<cocobean> cargo_c: during rebuild... fetched openssl 1.1.1t...
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<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] waddlesplash pushed 1 commit to master [hrev57124] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=f4f9c81086df+%5E0f293bd7b676
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] f4f9c81086df - Mail: fix "Set status" layout, localization
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<botifico-e32c8fbd> [haikuports/haikuports] pulkomandy pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/ba1026f3c581...d47920e1e9b3
<botifico-e32c8fbd> [haikuports/haikuports] pulkomandy d47920e - coreutils: fix error message printed by stty
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<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] waddlesplash pushed 1 commit to master [hrev57125] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=f89692a376b4+%5Ef4f9c81086df
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] f89692a376b4 - BMessage: Define getters/setters for BAlignment.
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<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] waddlesplash pushed 1 commit to master [hrev57126] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=7a3f924a6291+%5Ef89692a376b4
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 7a3f924a6291 - idualwifi7260: Synchronize with OpenBSD.
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<Begasus> closing down, g'night peeps
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