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<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] waddlesplash pushed 2 commits to master [hrev57067] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=402b41562c95+%5E17d9a20c621b
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] cf1b26a93345 - kernel/user_mutex: Create utility functions for the user_atomics.
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 402b41562c95 - kernel/user_mutex: Use phys_addr_t for hash keys.
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<augiedoggie> zdykstra: ping?
<zdykstra> Yo
<augiedoggie> i have a build of fish that i haven't been able to crash, maybe you want to test it?
<zdykstra> Absolutely
<augiedoggie> x86_64 hrev57063 or greater
<zdykstra> I'm on that now
<augiedoggie> ok, i'll upload it to google drive or something
<zdykstra> Cool, grabbing it now
* augiedoggie goes off to make dinner and stuff for a few
<augiedoggie> bah, it just stalled on me
<zdykstra> doh
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<augiedoggie> seems like it takes longer to hang now though :P
<zdykstra> that's good
<augiedoggie> before i could reproduce it within a few commands
<waddlesplash> what kind of semaphore is it using
<augiedoggie> just standard sem_wait/sem_post stuff as far as i can tell
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<augiedoggie> it has different styles, i think the current package is using pipes and file descriptors?
<augiedoggie> but the one i posted has the normal sem_init/sem_wait
<waddlesplash> ah, you enabled them with __HAIKU__ I guess
<augiedoggie> yeah, on the one i just uploaded to gdrive
<augiedoggie> seems to behave much better
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<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] korli pushed 1 commit to master [+2/-2/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/9d36338d7a0d...6c3112b151cd
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] hectorm 6c3112b - hBlock: bump (#8800)
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<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] korli pushed 1 commit to revert-8747-xmlsec [+1/-1/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/commit/e777be4e80c1
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] korli e777be4 - Revert "xmlsec, bump version (#8747)"
<botifico> [haikuports] korli created branch revert-8747-xmlsec - https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] korli pushed 1 commit to revert-8747-xmlsec [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/e777be4e80c1...b2d8e9496761
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] korli b2d8e94 - Update xmlsec-1.2.37.recipe
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] korli pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-1/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/6c3112b151cd...158a3f9d4839
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] korli 158a3f9 - xmlsec: revert bump version (#8802)
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] korli deleted branch revert-8747-xmlsec
<botifico> [haikuports] korli deleted branch revert-8747-xmlsec - https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports
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<Begasus> g'morning peeps
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<erysdren> good morning Begasus
<Begas_VM> g'morning erysdren
<erysdren> seems like i'm gonna have to find an LPT extension cable
<erysdren> never thought i'd need one of those...
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<Begas_VM> LPT?
<erysdren> Parallel
<Begasus> ah, jeez ;)
<Begas_VM> do they still make them? (probably)
<erysdren> seems so
<erysdren> or atleast there is a large amount of stock in warehouses
<erysdren> which is cheap
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<Begas_VM> nice, created a epub build with sphinx, opens fine in Sigil :)
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<erysdren> so what's the deal with nvidia drivers on haiku
<erysdren> guessing nouveau hasn't been ported
<erysdren> is haiku hoping to have them written from scratch?
<Begasus_32> nielx[m] is mostly working on that afaik
<erysdren> oh i guess it wouldn't matter too much since GL is still purely software
<erysdren> hmm
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<erysdren> mainly i'm asking because i really wanna try to help with haiku if i can find something that i could reasonably work on
<erysdren> i have a list of software/drivers that i would need to daily drive haiku (which i'd really like to try someday)
<erysdren> but they're all big projects i can't tackle myself
<erysdren> idk just rambling
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<Begasus> nothing wrong with rambling :) (patches welcome) :P
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<erysdren> so Haiku has MPV which is great, for watching youtube videos without actually having to load youtube.com in webpositive
<erysdren> but i'm wondering if i could write a halfassed GUI frontend that let me pull results for a given search term and select a video from the list
<erysdren> ...or maybe in the long run it would be better to just work on porting firefox
<Begasus> plenty of talk at the forum for that one atm
<erysdren> a while back i saw a post (reddit?) from someone who said that they did a full port of firefox but it was denied because "they said i didn't respect the Haiku filesystem guidelines"
<erysdren> but i doubt that's true
<Begasus> doubt it too :)
<tqh> erysdren, that seems very very unlikely
<erysdren> yeah it sounded like a guy talking out of his ass
<erysdren> firefox on haiku would almost complete it as a daily driver for me personally
<Begas_VM> can live without so far :)
<tqh> a good browser and some virtualisation would go a long way for me.
<erysdren> when Qt5 is further along in Haiku i wanna port OBS and TrenchBroom. those are daily-use programs for me
<trungnt2910[m]> All I need on Haiku is Chromium/Electron (so VSCode), .NET, and some kind of compatibility layer for Linux apps.
<tqh> no idea what those apps are
<erysdren> OBS = Open Broadcaster Software
<Begas_VM> good radio streaming would be nice ...
<erysdren> OBS for screen recording and livestreaming
<erysdren> TrenchBroom is a top-of-the-line level editor for Quake (1996) and descendents
<erysdren> both use Qt5
<Begas_VM> qmplay2 and streamradio both crashing on me :/
<tqh> ah
<erysdren> agreed on Electron. just for VS Code here
<trungnt2910[m]> Chromium > Firefox
<erysdren> also, OBS does run on FreeBSD so that's where i'd start instead of the Linux version
<erysdren> when trying to port to Haiku
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<trungnt2910[m]> Talking about UI frameworks, how stable is GTK3 on Haiku?
<trungnt2910[m]> I might want to try out some Gtk# applications.
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-0/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/158a3f9d4839...82ac50ff78bf
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus 82ac50f - assimp_docs, the documentation for the assimp library (#8803)
<Begasus> pretty good I think trungnt2910[m]
<Begasus> used it for the scummvm_tools app
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<Begas_VM> gcc -Wno-unused-result -Wsign-compare -DNDEBUG -D_BSD_SOURCE -D_BSD_SOURCE -fPIC -I/packages/python3.8_x86-3.8.16-1/.self/develop/headers/python3.8 -c regex_3/_regex.c -o build/temp.haiku-1-BePC-cpython-38/regex_3/_regex.o
<Begas_VM> cc1: Invalid option `-Wno-unused-result'
<Begas_VM> where does python picks the options?
<Begas_VM> the option is not set somewhere in the source
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<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/82ac50ff78bf...d84a30b6d879
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus d84a30b - calibre, revbump for bs4 (#8804)
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<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/d84a30b6d879...6d51c1aca9c0
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus 6d51c1a - calibre, missing tomli package (#8805)
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<erysdren> howdy Begasus, you around?
<erysdren> i'm gonna be porting a QuakeC compiler to haiku. what haikuports folder should the recipe go into?
<erysdren> dev-games?
<Habbie> does this help?
<erysdren> dev-games seems good enough to me
<Habbie> yes
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<Begasus> solved :)
<augiedoggie> the overlay search works better and shows one in games-util
<Begasus> no hits at repology ...
<Begasus> OscarL, you forgot dukpy :)
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<Habbie> augiedoggie, ah
<erysdren> any idea why devel:zlib fails to resolve with haikuporter?
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<erysdren> nevermind. im dumb
<OscarL> you sure Begasus ?
<OscarL> (I'm seeing dukpy-0.3 on the list, and no, I didn't edited it yet :-D)
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<erysdren> hey
<erysdren> a recipe for the QuakeC compiler
<erysdren> pretty simple. just a commandline tool
<erysdren> works inside my VM and with the cross compiler
<erysdren> x86 and x86_64
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<zdykstra> wooh, I can finally change the terminal color theme
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* tqh wonders if there is any usable lightweight home automation software out there
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<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] waddlesplash pushed 1 commit to master [hrev57068] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=9686d931512c+%5E402b41562c95
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 9686d931512c - kernel/user_mutex: Fix another instance of addr_t.
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<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] waddlesplash pushed 1 commit to master [hrev57069] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=a2cb4665deaa+%5E9686d931512c
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] a2cb4665deaa - strace: Improvements
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<trungnt2910[m]> Hmmmm strace changes are merged almost instantly without any questioning...
<nephele> would you prefer to be questioned?
<trungnt2910[m]> Nope
<trungnt2910[m]> Just strange because most changes I submit do get questioned a lot.
<nephele> It depends what you submit it to, and your work improves in quality with changes aswell :)
<waddlesplash> because they're all in components that have a lot of requirements and we try to keep the code clean :)
<waddlesplash> strace changes are not hard to make correctly
<nephele> strace is one thing... but if you submit stuff to libtracker :P
<waddlesplash> trungnt2910[m]: I scrutinize your strace changes just as much as your other changes, they've just been all good so far :p
<trungnt2910[m]> Probably the only kind of change with 0% chance of getting questioned is translation.
<nephele> It's questioned by other translators
<nephele> I'm very annoyed for example that the german translation removed all app name translations /despite/ there beeing a setting for exactly that
<nephele> It makes Haiku impossible to use for my grandmother, who does not speak engligh
<botifico> [haiku/infrastructure] kallisti5 pushed 2 commits to master [+0/-515/±7] https://github.com/haiku/infrastructure/compare/9469007d9470...dc1636aef3a2
<botifico> [haiku/infrastructure] kallisti5 d5acf23 - gerrit: Bump version to latest v3.6
<botifico> [haiku/infrastructure] kallisti5 dc1636a - containers/keycloak: Cleanup theme
<waddlesplash> nephele: then they should be reinstated??
<waddlesplash> talk to whoever removed them and discuss it, sounds like an error :p
<trungnt2910[m]> nephele: Anyone in this community can question my Vietnamese skills? :D
<nephele> It was discussed on the mailing list and was done on purpose
<nephele> trungnt2910[m]: perhaps. I don't know :)
<waddlesplash> nephele: err. but why? that sounds wrong anyway
<waddlesplash> trungnt2910[m]: we used to have some pretty prolific Vietnamese contributors before you
<tqh> It is preferred to use PR's but not mandatory for developers.
<waddlesplash> but they're not around anymore :(
<trungnt2910[m]> waddlesplash: Why can't I find Vietnamese in the settings then?
<waddlesplash> because they never did translations
<trungnt2910[m]> Also localization on Haiku has a lot of room for improvement.
<nephele> waddlesplash: I don't remember, i think it was something about stuff like "WebPositive" beeing a proper name and thus hard to translate?
<trungnt2910[m]> I tried setting the language to Japanese but around 20% of the text remain English.
<waddlesplash> trungnt2910[m]: how so?
<waddlesplash> nephele: then only translate some of them...?
<waddlesplash> so then the Japanese translators didn't translate that yet, I guess
<trungnt2910[m]> waddlesplash: Probably. Or the strings might have been hard coded.
<waddlesplash> no
<waddlesplash> there are languages with 100% and no English strings
<waddlesplash> there are a few remaining places with hardcoded strings but these are, e.g. filesystem attributes, which are tricky to deal with
<waddlesplash> definitely not 20%. humdinger has fixed all the low hanging stuff
<nephele> The hard stuff for usage is stuff like the deskbar menu entries :)
<nephele> waddlesplash: anyway, i don't know if i have an account on the i18n software :g
<trungnt2910[m]> I must say though POSIX apps integrate quite well with Haiku language settings.
<nephele> Well, because we use the POSIX mechanism to expose this to applications
<trungnt2910[m]> The dotnet SDK did switch to Japanese.
<nephele> I have an account for the user guide translator it seems, is that the same?
<waddlesplash> no
<trungnt2910[m]> Feature request: language switch without having to restart applications like Tracker.
<nephele> trungnt2910[m]: we do live color updates. If you want this it can be added indeed. likely a similar codepath to changing font sizes live as you will basically need to rerender to entire view
<kallisti5[m]> whoo. this new job is murdering my burn-out
<kallisti5[m]> Any opinions on the future login page for "all the things"?
<kallisti5[m]> sso.haiku-os.org/realms/haiku/protocol/openid-connect/auth?response_type=code&client_id=gerrit-app&redirect_uri=https%3A%2F%2Freview.haiku-os.org%2Foauth&scope=openid
<nephele> waddlesplash: hmm okay, can you email me a login?
<waddlesplash> nephele: I think you can create an account there?
<waddlesplash> nephele: however you will have to ask humdinger or nielx for language permissions iirc
<waddlesplash> kallisti5[m]: wouldn
<waddlesplash> 't "murdering burnout" be a good thing?
* kallisti5[m] nods
<kallisti5[m]> it is a good thing.. that's why that new sso login page exists :-)
<waddlesplash> kallisti5[m]: my only opinion is: that's an ugly url :P
<nephele> kallisti5[m]: the general layout seems fine, but the contrast is too little (to see where the text boxes start and end) and there is no dark mode ;)
<kallisti5[m]> waddlesplash: haha, it's an oauth2 thing. Gerrit sends you there
<nephele> Wondering if you can "just" use the OS style for those controls, as in unstyled? I've tried to make the native controls render nicely in webkit :)
<trungnt2910[m]> So Haiku itself is providing OAuth?
<kallisti5[m]> login to gerrit -> go to that url -> login -> redirect back to gerrit
<nephele> trungnt2910[m]: kallisti5 is working on it
<trungnt2910[m]> Would be nice if it could be connected to my GitHub account.
<kallisti5[m]> waddlesplash: fun story.. at the moment I can login to gerrit via github *or* sso.haiku-os.org
<nephele> trungnt2910[m]: you can login to gerrit with github
<nephele> unfortunately
<kallisti5[m]> trungnt2910: that's phase two.
<nephele> but all other stuff is not tied up with any sso yet, that is next on the line#
<trungnt2910[m]> nephele: Which is what I am currently doing.
<nephele> Yes, I had to create a microsoft account just to be able to contribute, which kind of sucks >.>
<nephele> In the future I may be able to delete it again when kallisti5 works his magic :D
<kallisti5[m]> phase 1: Login to gerrit with github *or* sso.haiku-os.org
<kallisti5[m]> phase 2: Login to gerrit with sso.haiku-os.org using local users or social accounts like github
<kallisti5[m]> pretty much.. i gotta migrate identities over from github directly to sso.haiku-os.org
<kallisti5[m]> I have a WIP guide here. The process isn't too hard
<kallisti5[m]> ... which I didn't save
<kallisti5[m]> and i rebooted and it's gone :sigh:
<kallisti5[m]> there goes my burnout-free state. crawls into a corner
<nephele> Haha, Koder crashes trying to open the html file for that site
<nephele> i think it chokes on the filename
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<nephele> kallisti5[m]: I kind of want to do the css stuff :D
<kallisti5[m]> i mean... it's in git kinda
<nephele> that isn't filling me with confidence, gerrits data is also kinda in git
<nephele> :P
<kallisti5[m]> haha, well for this one I have some automation for testing
<kallisti5[m]> make; make clean; make test
<nephele> neat
<kallisti5[m]> those will build the keycloak container, start it up and import some data + realms, and allow you to test themes
<nephele> where does login.css come from?
<kallisti5[m]> pretty much, you grab a base theme from keycloak, and customize it to override the default
<kallisti5[m]> override / extend
<nephele> wierd. the css file has some vars for light/dark in the root... but clearly it doesn't work
<nephele> oh well. I wonder how do you test this then? I guess I can mostly "blindly" change the css and send it to you using a web inspector though
<kallisti5[m]> no time for that. I'm working on migration docs. We can always improve over time
<kallisti5[m]> "Minimum Viable Product"
<nephele> Well, i'm offering to fix the css and just "Pr" it to you :)
<kallisti5[m]> The PR works.. i just don't have the bandwidth to try and take your css changes and make them work within the complex template engine
<kallisti5[m]> Took me a while to just get our logo there 😬
<nephele> Not sure what you mean? you have the login.css right now? I'd just change that? or do you manually need to move stuff from there?
<nephele> complex templating engines aren't fun though... what happened to simple websites .-.
<nephele> anyhow, i'll work on that then once you've set it up and have time to review stuff i suppose
<nephele> i'm already suckered into doing most of the dark mode web stuff anyhow :P
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<Begasus> my bad OscarL (missed it) :)
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<zdykstra> oh god, keycloak
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<waddlesplash> zdykstra: what, bad memories or something?
<zdykstra> yes, I had to deploy a keycloak cluster for a uh, large scale website on GCP. It was a dark month. :)
<Begasus> nice, printed over network :)
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<Begasus> time for backups, is the wifi key stored somewhere on disk?
<nephele> yes, somewhere
<Begasus> ;)
<Begasus> biab
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<nephele> Begasus: I'd guess network preferences
<nephele> oh, too late :/
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<Begasus> so it nephele (checking)
<Begasus> saw* :)
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<Begasus> k, that worked :)
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] davidkaroly pushed 1 commit to master [hrev57070] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=f61fb770f082+%5Ea2cb4665deaa
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] f61fb770f082 - kernel/arm: don't set Accessed Flag when initially mapping a page
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<Begasus> clean install ... check (with wifi/ssh setup)
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<Begasus> updating system from R1B4 _59 to _86 ...
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<Begasus> k, rebooted, StreamRadio working fine now (was probably something bogus on my install) :)
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<Begasus> closing down, cu peeps!
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<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] waddlesplash pushed 2 commits to master [hrev57071] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=505fdd612b20+%5Ef61fb770f082
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 63396c7d1387 - pthread_barrier_test: Reduce sleep times and increase cycles.
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 505fdd612b20 - pthread_barrier: Rewrite critical section.
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<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] waddlesplash pushed 1 commit to master [hrev57072] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=4785ffe77cc3+%5E505fdd612b20
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 4785ffe77cc3 - pthread_barrier: Add casts to appease GCC2.
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<botifico> [haiku/infrastructure] kallisti5 pushed 2 commits to master [+8/-1/±1] https://github.com/haiku/infrastructure/compare/dc1636aef3a2...7db4bd1b90c9
<botifico> [haiku/infrastructure] kallisti5 f3251fd - gerrit: Bump to v3.7
<botifico> [haiku/infrastructure] kallisti5 7db4bd1 - tools/sso: Add user import tools
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