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<zdykstra> What server do you have configured for your repo, and can you resolve the DNS entry?
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<AlienSoldier> can't get it to be "enabled" in haikudepot repository management
<AlienSoldier> it say tak take a long time
<AlienSoldier> *task
<AlienSoldier> other depot work fine
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<Begasus> g'morning peeps
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<win8linux[m]> New recipe for Dust Racing 2D + map editor:
<win8linux[m]> Good afternoon Begasus!
<zdykstra> win8linux[m]: that game looks neat!
<Begasus> Hi there win8linux[m] zdykstra
<zdykstra> Morning Begasus
<Begasus> just read the email :)
<zdykstra> How are the doggies?
<Begasus> just had their food, so calm atm :)
<Begasus> all in all good, oldest heading 13
<Begasus> buildmasters still down :/
<Begasus> win8linux[m] I guess the one in the PR isn't the one you had issues with x11extras?
<win8linux[m]> No, that one with the `x11extras` requirement was QOwnNotes.
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<Begasus> win8linux[m]
<Begasus> Manually-specified variables were not used by the project:
<Begasus>
<Begasus> CMAKE_INSTALL_BINDIR
<Begasus> CMAKE_INSTALL_DATADIR
<Begasus> you can see that, data is installed in $appsDir/appname/share
<augiedoggie> the recipe needs some other changes but i'm pretty tired at the moment
<Begasus> I'm still in the process of waking up (need more coffee) :)
<win8linux[m]> <Begasus> " Manually-specified variables..." <- Was trying to get the project configured to put the data and binaries into the right places.
<win8linux[m]> Still trying to get it to do that.
<Begasus> search for "destination" in the source, you can see where it defaults install
<Begasus> I guess for the binary it's sufficiant to be installed in -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX/bin (default)
<Begasus> jikes, full-screen launch :P
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<Begasus> win8linux[m], there is a .pro file in there you know?
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<win8linux[m]> Begasus, I know. It didn't seem to have anything that would help.
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<Begasus> ok :)
<win8linux[m]> I'm just going to update the recipe to remove the unnecessary CMake vars.
<win8linux[m]> Unless I'm missing something (likely), getting the files into the right places on Haiku may require writing InstallHaiku.cmake?
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<Anarchos> hello
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<Anarchos> hello diver
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<win8linux[m]> Welp, setting the paths with envvars didn't work either.
<win8linux[m]> Guess I'm just leaving the dustrac recipe alone until further feedback.
<Begasus> patch the destination for "share"?
<Begasus> looking into botan atm
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<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] autocommitter pushed 1 commit to master [hrev57698] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=fb07166f527b+%5E44e09f07ce53
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] fb07166f527b - Update translations from Pootle
<Anarchos> Begasus i began reading the openbeos newsletter from first issue this night
<Anarchos> Begasus a bit depressing to see all this good will so long ago, memory fades and enthusiasm too...
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<Begasus> Hope I can have the spirit for some time here Anarchos :)
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<Begasus> botan2 isn't playing nice ... doesn't build/install the cmake files ...
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<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+4/-4/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/d633117de6a3...29e4ac094969
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus 29e4ac0 - botan, bump versions (#10303)
<Anarchos> how to know how many threads are in a team when one syscall fails ?
<phschafft> that sounds like a bit of a strange question. what is your context?
<Anarchos> phschafft i can't understand why i get execve() : Operation not allowed
<Anarchos> phschafft when the user code is basically fork/execve()
<Anarchos> i don't know how posix fork/exec in libroot behaves vrs kernel teams/threads
<Anarchos> but the only occurence in kernel source where i see execve() : not allowed is in team.cpp where it is only allowed in single threaded team.
<phschafft> are you sure you're allowed to execute your target at all?
<phschafft> e.g. can you start it manually?
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<Anarchos> phschafft which target ? the execve target ?
<phschafft> yes.
<phschafft> just want to make sure your call *can* work to begin with.
<Anarchos> yes in Terminal i can call the command
<phschafft> hm.
<Anarchos> phschafft when reading xref.landonf, i see that posix execve calls this line : https://xref.landonf.org/source/xref/haiku/src/system/kernel/team.cpp#1985
<Anarchos> phschafft but waddlesplash already told me that fork/execve should work smoothly
<Anarchos> so i am lost in translation :)
* phschafft nods.
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<skip> test
<Anarchos> skip don't skip tests, they are useful :)
<skip> lol
<skip> alright awesome
<skip> how are yall doing
<skip> this is like, my first time on irc
<Anarchos> skip we are fine. Welcome here !
<skip> thank you
<Anarchos> phschafft strace really points to this line in team.cpp...
<skip> i wanted to ask about an issue
<skip> i have a laptop with a celeron m 430, intel 945 chipset, gma 950
<skip> when i boot haiku, i believe its trying to set an invalid video mode which sends a wacky frost effect on my screen
<Anarchos> skip hit spacebar at boot and then 'failsafe video mode' or something like that
<skip> after that it sets 1280x800 and shows the desktop properly and all but theres a period of slight flickering
<skip> yeah i did that
<skip> but thats just 1024x768
<Anarchos> skip there is also an option to use only VESA mode
<skip> i guess if i cant do anything about it other than use vesa i should probably report the problem
<skip> might be a bug in the intel extreme driver
<Anarchos> skip which version of haiku do you use ?
<Anarchos> skip R1 beta4 pr a nightly ?
<Anarchos> phschafft i think you are more versed than me in kernel arcanes ?
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<Anarchos> phschafft fork calls fork_team which basically creates another team (single threaded) with the new executable. So maybe someone spawned a thread before i call posix excve() ?
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<phschafft> Anarchos: I think I only sound smart. ;)
<phschafft> Anarchos: I know a thing or two about OS' in general, but not the Haiku details.
<phschafft> plus I'm a bit in and out today. doing some stuff in the kitchen, so give me a second to look at your links.
<phschafft> Anarchos: so, where is your code?
<Anarchos> the trouble is that it is not my code but a whole compilation builder/package management suite from the ocaml ecosystem
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<phschafft> still, do you have a link to that call?
<x512[m]> Fork is evil.
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<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] pulkomandy pushed 1 commit to master [hrev57699] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=11ec18db9c09+%5Efb07166f527b
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 11ec18db9c09 - ffmpeg: return AVERROR_EOF instead of 0 on stream end
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<BrunoSpr> hello everybody
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<BrunoSpr> what is the media extractor thread for? It starts with Haiku and is at 100% ! I have to kill the thread... No idea where it is from!?
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<PulkoMandy> I just merged the fix from madmax, it will be fixed if you update your install in a few minutes
<PulkoMandy> As the name ofthe thread indicates,it is the thread reading and decoding media files (audio or video). There is some work in progress in that area to use the latest version of ffmpeg
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<PulkoMandy> As usual, if you don't want to be affected by these experimental changes, use th beta relase and not the nightlies where such work happens
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<Begasus> nice, buildmasters back online :)
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<Anarchos> x512[m] maybe fork is evil, but i use this code, i did'nt write it. It is not very constructive to say so, giving the amount of posix-code (even in our ports) using it....
<x512[m]> Some wrong things may happen if multi-threaded application will use fork.
<BrunoSpr> Thanks for clarification, nice work thanks a lot... PulkoMandy
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<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-2/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/29e4ac094969...bd97827b0749
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus bd97827 - cudatext, bump version (#10305)
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<The_Ringmaster> Hello
<The_Ringmaster> Has anyone tried to run eternal lands (mmorpg) lately. I can install it but get an error saying the rules.xml file is missing
<Begasus> Hi The_Ringmaster, not me
<Begasus> Anarchos, libVersion for 3.24.0 is the same as for 3.24.11 (SONAME) :) (1.8.0)
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<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-1/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/bd97827b0749...8469d20be261
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus 8469d20 - aspell, bump version (#10306)
<Begasus> no comments on the zstd PR, going to run another build for Haiku if it still is fine, then it should be good to merge
<Begasus> hrev57699 still booting :)
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+3/-10/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/8469d20be261...225b8043aafe
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus 225b804 - zstd, cleanup old (vulnarable) recipes, bump version (#10294)
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<HaikuUser> :|
<augiedoggie> :O
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<mbrumbelow> What is the best DNS provider to use for Haiku?
<Habbie> i generally pick 9.9.9.9, Haiku or not
<mbrumbelow> Habbie: Thanks, I am having issues with DNS again... seems to be a reoccurring thing.
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<Anarchos> Begasus thanks but can not find any reference to 1.8.0 in my gtksourceview3 recipe!
<Anarchos> x512[m] so if fork is to avoid, how can i rewrite this fork/execve stub in a more haiku-ish pattern ?
<x512[m]> Source code link?
<x512[m]> Does it have Windows version?
<x512[m]> If possible, posix_spawn should be used.
<Anarchos> yes it has a windows version
<Anarchos> but it does nothing.
<x512[m]> I suspect that it is possible to use posix_spawn there.
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<AlienSoldier> Humm, seem my update problem was related to DNS finally
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<Begasus> closing down here
<Begasus> Anarchos, that's because you haven't included it in the recipe :)
<Begasus> cu peeps!
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<Anarchos> x512[m] is there a reason why posix_spawn would succeed where fork/execve wouldn't ?
<x512[m]> posix_spawn is implemented in Haiku without using fork where possible.
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<Anarchos> may i ask a silly question, but what is the trouble with fork ?
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<x512[m]> It is implemented inefficiently in Haiku and can cause troubles in multi-threaded applications.
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<Anarchos> x512[m] ok
<Anarchos> x512[m] and posix_spawn will be neatier ?
<x512[m]> fork do copy of various team resources (thread, area, port, sem, fd etc.) that will be thrown away after exec. posix_spawn directly create new team without copying parent team resources.
<Anarchos> make sense
<Anarchos> will try to do that.
<Anarchos> bbl
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<x512[m]> In Linux fork is very optimized so it copy resources on demand when it are touched for first time.
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<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] waddlesplash pushed 4 commits to master [hrev57700] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=9b655000bc9b+%5E11ec18db9c09
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] aa9d729ebf60 - virtio_audio: add to build, enable Werror, fix build
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] fa2e76a14215 - audio drivers: enable Werror for drivers that have no warnings
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 4d058c90a689 - null_audio: fix warnings, enable -Werror
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 9b655000bc9b - hda audio: Enable -Werror
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<dovsienko> waddlesplash: getting to a point where one can nail -Werror down is a good progress
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<Anarchos> x512[m] i am stuck : https://github.com/janestreet/spawn say that i have to be able to provide the working directory for the child process
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<Anarchos> sorry i crashed
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<x512[m]> But probably not supported by Haiku yet.
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<Anarchos> x512[m] it seems we have it :https://xref.landonf.org/source/xref/haiku/src/system/libroot/posix/spawn.cpp#487
<x512[m]> Lucky then.
<Anarchos> x512[m] not really ; in that case, posix_spawn calls spawn_using_fork.
<Anarchos> which does exactly the fork/execve i try to avaoid
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<mmu_man> it doesn't use load_image()?
<Guest1> I should probably start using Haiku for more than just playing with Mandelbrot
<Anarchos> mmu_man if i pass a chdir_action, the code i linked says no
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<gordonjcp> also why doesn't oftc let me stay logged in as me
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<Anarchos> mmu_man i have a strace log, bug can't understand why the exec call fails
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<coolcoder613_32> Good morning
<mmu_man> load_image() probably can't do this
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