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<Begasus> g'morning peeps
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<coolcoder613_> Hi Begasus
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<Begasus> Hi coolcoder613_
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<nielx[m]> Any objections to me applying a HaikuDepot server update right now?
<Begasus> not here nielx[m], reading up before I push a few changes to recipes later :)
<Anarchos> nielx[m] not influent on the project enough to have an opinion on that matter :)
<nielx[m]> Ok, shut it down and starting database backup
<nielx[m]> Begasus: I found cargo-c on an old todo list. I remember you played around with it :-) Do you remember what the issue was?
<aazam[m]> Good morning :)
<nielx[m]> haikudepot database backup complete; deploying new image
<nielx[m]> and it is back, running final checks
<botifico> [haiku/infrastructure] nielx pushed 2 commits to master [+0/-0/±2] https://github.com/haiku/infrastructure/compare/dc477ea40837...afb9ca6f1157
<botifico> [haiku/infrastructure] nielx 0480196 - HaikuDepotServer deployment steps: always scale down before backup
<botifico> [haiku/infrastructure] nielx afb9ca6 - HaikuDepotServer: deploy 1.0.159
<Begasus> thanks! :)
<Anarchos> how to restore my local git repot to be the same than origin/master ?
<Begasus> origin or upstream?
<Anarchos> Begasus 'your brnach is in advance of 6 commits' . i would get rid of those 6 commits
<Begasus> I keep my origin on par with upstream (and try to stay clear with using branches) :)
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-1/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/e9c330c009d5...0912069b7694
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus 0912069 - libqalculate, bump version (#10281)
<Begasus> maybe it could help :)
<Anarchos> Begasus ok i could rebase and now i see my 3 local commits on top. how to delete them ?
<Begasus> link Anarchos?
<Begasus> mind you, I'm no master there ;)
<nielx[m]> if you don't want to keep them, git reset --hard origin/master will resync your branch with whatever origin/master is pointing at
<nielx[m]> resync/reset
<Anarchos> nielx[m] ah yes : rebase + reset --hard do the trick. thanks
<nielx[m]> usually the pattern would be git fetch origin master and then a hard reset to the branch (or to FETCH_HEAD)
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] pulkomandy pushed 1 commit to master [hrev57680] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=dae087ed53b8+%5E48cd211d716b
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] dae087ed53b8 - ShowImage: Apply i18n to number values
<Anarchos> nielx[m] i really hate git with its /index/workdir/local/repo/distant repo notions.... all mix in my head
<Anarchos> too much arcane commands and options.
<nielx[m]> it's not the clearest, but I did find that once you get the mental model in your mind, it makes sense
<nielx[m]> also, a lot of work has gone into git's command set recent years to clean it up and make it fetch better (things like git switch instead of one of the x number of overloaded features of git checkout to get a branch). A lot of older articles do not incorporate that new way of interacting with git
<Begasus> I still use "git fetch ..." and "git checkout --track ..." for other branches/pr's :)
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<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-2/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/0912069b7694...c8c460aebe01
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus c8c460a - qalculate_qt, bump version, keep on par with libqalculate (#10282)
<Anarchos> nielx[m] now i will see if 'jam unittests' work from the box...
<Anarchos> anwser is fast and no : don't know how to make <src!tests!servers!launch!tools>LaunchDaemonTestAddon.cpp
<nielx[m]> that's odd, it used to ...
<Anarchos> nielx[m] i launch it in my generated.x86_64 folder.
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<nielx[m]> same here
<Anarchos> nielx[m] so someone broke the unit tests ?
<Anarchos> nielx[m] i am not on gcc2....
<nielx[m]> It's equally broken on GCC2
<nielx[m]> same output
<Anarchos> nielx[m] it can't be true, somebody must have run the testsuite recently.... :/
<nielx[m]> are you cross-compiling the tests?
<Anarchos> nielx[m] i think so even if it is a cross compiling x86_64 -> x86_64 ...
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<Anarchos> sorry for the disconnection, my kid played with the laptop plug!
<Begasus> lol
<Begasus> sorry :)
<Anarchos> nielx[m] at least the error on objects/haiku/x86_64/release/tests/apps/haikudepot/DumpExportRepositoryJsonListener.o unable to compiled has been solved
<Anarchos> but still no tests running
<aazam[m]> I have finally compiled haiku on haiku :')
<aazam[m]> * have finally almost compiled haiku
<Anarchos> aazam[m] congrats ! This step was not easy for me, with all the stuff around configure, buildsetup, target images and so on.
<aazam[m]> so after cloning the buildtools and haiku repo, moved into the haiku dir to build the compiler, it's showing me I require a python interpreter??
<Anarchos> Begasus i will try my new unit test on unix datagram socket.
<Anarchos> aazam[m] "pkgman install python3"
<aazam[m]> Oof Anarchos just saw it in the docs ;)
<aazam[m]> it was on another page
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<Begasus> aazam[m], python3.10 should be default installed on Haiku, so there shouldn't be need for that?
<Anarchos> how rude from my server : gdb command not found :)
<Begasus> Anarchos, in the process of bumping cantor later today (and revbuild for labplot2) :)
<Begasus> heh
<Anarchos> Begasus i fill force it into this damn heavy beast
<Begasus> ;)
<Begasus> k, time to go out for a while, cu later!
<Anarchos> though i never debug with gdb
<Anarchos> Begasus cu later too !
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<aazam[m]> Begasus: Hmm, it wasn't present by default when i booted up. But according to the docs in building haiku i need to run the pkgman command to install it
<aazam[m]> but I managed to compile haiku
<aazam[m]> the ./configure command works without any errors
<Anarchos> aazam[m] i advise you to run configure from a ./generated folder
<Anarchos> aazam[m] it helps to parallelize work on different versions if you need to cross-compile or isolate your target platforms
<aazam[m]> Anarchos: Oh I see, i'll keep that in mind.
<aazam[m]> though i already hit configure from the root haiku folder, do i need to be worried :?
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<PulkoMandy> No, if you build in a single configuration, that's fine
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<aazam[m]> Great!
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<aazam[m]> Is there a code editor in haiku depot?
<Anarchos> aazam[m] there are many
<Anarchos> vim emacs, Pe, Koder ....
<aazam[m]> Anarchos: which one would you suggest for a vs code user :)
<Anarchos> vscode is more an IDE than a code editor
<aazam[m]> true true
<Anarchos> i wsould say just begin with Pe
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<Anarchos> aazam[m] but i am no expert in tooling
<aazam[m]> Anarchos: Hmm i see, I'll browse through them
<aazam[m]> the simplest one to use, the better for now
<Anarchos> PulkoMandy first tests on ccomp : a bare main which returns 0 or -1 : it works :)
<Anarchos> aazam[m] "pkgman search cmd:lpe"
<coolcoder613> Genio?
<aazam[m]> Genio looks pretty good
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<Anarchos> PulkoMandy lots of GNUism in the develop headers. Will try another day to deal with compcert choking on that.
<Anarchos> aazam[m] i never used genio
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<aazam[m]> Anarchos It is decent so far
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<aazam[m]> Nvm genio feels too clunky and keeps freezing :(
<coolcoder613> Koder?
<aazam[m]> gonna try that now
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<aazam[m]> Yep, works well
<phschafft> Morning.
<aazam[m]> phschafft: Good morning :)
<phschafft> all good today?
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<botifico> [haiku/website] kallisti5 pushed 1 commit to security [+2/-0/±2] https://github.com/haiku/website/compare/d86c00f1b41c...ca6dbcc10997
<botifico> [haiku/website] kallisti5 ca6dbcc - security: Improve our posture to announce critical CVEs
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<Begasus> re
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<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-0/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/c8c460aebe01...6dca2ffc326d
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus 6dca2ff - liborigin, new recipe (#10283)
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<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+2/-2/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/6dca2ffc326d...11fc9b5bbf93
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus 11fc9b5 - ECM, bump version (#10207)
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<PriyanshuGupta[m]> PulkoMandy: Sorry for that silly mistakes i have reverted the changes there
<PriyanshuGupta[m]> can you please take a look
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+2/-2/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/11fc9b5bbf93...3ed33b0c1a7a
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus 3ed33b0 - cantor bump version (#10284)
<bbjimmy> updating hauku
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<bbjimmy_64> it'd be nice if I could spell Haiku right?
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<Begasus> heh
<bbjimmy> :)
<PriyanshuGupta[m]> hii Begasus
<Begasus> at least you didn't write haikuos :)
<Begasus> Hi PriyanshuGupta[m]
<bbjimmy> true
<PulkoMandy> PriyanshuGupta[m]: No problem, just be sure to configure things correctly to avoid this inthe future if possible :)
<PriyanshuGupta[m]> Begasus: yes :)
<Begasus> k, second one on gear24 from KDE (still using kf5)
<PriyanshuGupta[m]> yes i go for the separate branch for the short attribute but the topic xfs is same for both and that's why, probably changes got reverted
<Begasus> now if someone could fix "julia" ;)
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<win8linux[m]> Oh no, someone in that Deskbar leaf forum topic is now trying to look for a new Haiku logo typeface.
<augiedoggie> yeah :/
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<win8linux[m]> That topic really went in all sorts of directions, huh.
<Begasus> I don't mind the leaf, so I'm not mignling in there :P
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<_Dario_> if all those comments in the blue leaf thread, were magically converted into commits into Haiku or Haikuports project, today could have Haiku r.2.5 .... :D
<_Dario_> and maybe 500.000 applications in HaikuDepot.
<augiedoggie> the topic sort of started off in two directions, some are arguing about what the default should be, others like me just want to be able to change it after install
<nosycat> :D
<nosycat> What a textbook example of literal bikeshedding. People arguing what color to paint the leaf.
<_Dario_> too many 'designers' and 'project leaders' wanabee...
<phschafft> we once hat a discussion on the colour of some folders we gave out on events. people discussed for hours how the blue is bad and that we should have $whatever.
* nosycat facepalms
<phschafft> end of story was that I joined for like 2 minutes and explained that they only come in blue, different colours are not produced.
<dovsienko> When I first started to use computers, you were lucky if it had more than 4 colours and more than 40 characters on a line
<phschafft> there was literally nothing to discuss there as there was no option.
<phschafft> but it gave me a deeper understanding on how groups work.
<phschafft> or not.
<phschafft> dovsienko: my first one had grey, grey with a bit of blue, blue with a bit of grey, and blue. four colours.
<_Dario_> :D
<dovsienko> phschafft: and the black?
<nosycat> Guess the ZX Spectrum deserved its name.
<dovsienko> Speccy was a breakthrough
<dovsienko> I went to a computing museum nor far from the place where Sinclair conducted his business at the time, and the museum has more models of Spectrum I ever remembered existed
<nosycat> Nice!
<dovsienko> found the original of the ZX clone I had as a teenager. apparently, they copied the keys exactly, only the logo was different
<phschafft> dovsienko: no back.
<phschafft> *black
<phschafft> basically the grey is the idle state of the display.
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<BlueSky76> Waiting for the "Haiku switches to Linux kernel" or "focus shift" announcements ;-)
<nosycat> :D
<dovsienko> ?
<augiedoggie> i think we did that one a few years ago
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<BlueSky76> dovsienko: It has something to do with today's date ... ;-)
<dovsienko> ah, of course
<BlueSky76> augiedoggie: Yeah, that was a good one
<BlueSky76> Maybe the one with the switch to the linux kernel was a bit too obvious. We could use Serenity or FreeDos instead ;-)
<aazam[m]> What is gutenprint8 for ?
<BlueSky76> aazam: GutenPrint is a collection of printer drivers
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+3/-1/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/3ed33b0c1a7a...75e6a77466ee
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus 75e6a77 - cfitsio, bump version, keep older around (#10285)
<aazam[m]> BlueSky76: I see, it was showing up as not installed when i ran `TARGET_PLATFORM=libbe_test jam install-test-apps`
<aazam[m]> welp I did manually install it now
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<Begasus> nice, for the record did a build for tokodon on 32bit with the new ECM package, worked out fine! :D
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-0/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/75e6a77466ee...f9756d4ba628
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus f9756d4 - matio, new recipe (#10286)
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<aazam[m]> I was looking at open tickets at gerrit. How do I find easy/beginner ones :)
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<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/f9756d4ba628...7b394f107fab
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus 7b394f1 - matio, disable gcc2, set CMAKE_INSTALL_BINDIR (#10287)
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<kallisti5[m]> Begasus: question.... are you signing commits on haikuports?
<kallisti5[m]> everyone seems to use the same key fingerprint which is... weird?
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<kallisti5[m]> "GitHub will automatically sign commits you make using the GitHub web interface." ah
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<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-0/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/7b394f107fab...283343b3f2ef
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus 283343b - libcerf, new recipe (#10288)
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<Begasus> kallisti5[m]?
<Begasus> not sure what you mean, but I indeed use the web interface for creating/merging
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<jmairboeck> Github changes the commit message to include the PR number and signs the commit if you use "squash and merge" on a PR, but it keeps the author and committer.
<jmairboeck> Apparently if you rebase merge using the web interface it doesn't do anything with the commits besides the rebasing and therefore the commits end up unsigned.
<Begasus> today I only added a newline with some comment, otherwise I mostly just use a one liner
<Begasus> well, no clue there, if it's not that good please advice (but not today anymore) :)
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<jmairboeck> that is what I did with the texlive 2024 PR to keep the 2 commits separate
<aazam[m]> What does the comment in this ticket mean? https://dev.haiku-os.org/ticket/13945#no2
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<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/283343b3f2ef...ed95dfa25294
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus ed95dfa - labplot, revbump for new dependencies (#10289)
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<Begasus> last one for today :)
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<Begasus> bugger, looks like I forgot to include the patch, will be for tomorrow
<Begasus> cu peeps!
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<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] waddlesplash pushed 1 commit to master [hrev57681] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=5c6e17e7733b+%5Edae087ed53b8
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 5c6e17e7733b - PCI: try harder to fixup broken resource ranges in ACPI tables
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] waddlesplash pushed 1 commit to master [hrev57682] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=723c4270dd7c+%5E5c6e17e7733b
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 723c4270dd7c - es1370: initialize the log only if the hardware is detected
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] waddlesplash pushed 1 commit to master [hrev57683] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=b140858b8c6d+%5E723c4270dd7c
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] b140858b8c6d - ioapic: more useful logging
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<coolcoder613_32> Good morning
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<OscarL> aazam[m]: to clarify... the "issue tracker" service (https://dev.haiku-os.org/) is called "Trac". "Gerrit" (https://review.haiku-os.org/) is the service for the code-reviews.
<OscarL> aazam[m]: regarding https://dev.haiku-os.org/ticket/13945#no2 ... Means that the needed functionality already exits on the "web engine" (WebKit / https://github.com/haiku/haikuwebkit/) part of the browser (WebPositive / https://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/tree/src/apps/webpositive/)...
<OscarL> aazam[m]: And that apparently, what is left is making the latter call the functionality on the former, ie: call `webSettingsPrivate.setRequiresUserGestureToLoadVideo()`, and such.
<OscarL> aazam[m]: Task marked as "easy": https://dev.haiku-os.org/wiki/EasyTasks
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<coolcoder613_32> I can't use mutt whith smtp on Haiku
<coolcoder613_32> In fact, I can't use *anything* for smtp on Haiku (with my outlook email)
<coolcoder613_32> How can I see the mail_daemon logs?
<coolcoder613_32> brb, rebooting
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