<OscarL>
My understanding was that we needed that "pylib_haiku" precisely because our Python packages do not provide libpython3.xx.so (without the version suffix).
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<Begasus>
re
<Begasus>
OscarL, isn't that primary used at build time?
<Begasus>
my skills are not that good :)
<Begasus>
I think korli is a bit on par with me there :)
<OscarL>
As far as I can tell... those values in default.json are just a "this should probably work on this platform" default.
<OscarL>
just a runtime thing, AFAICT (but... keep in mind, I haven't done a local build).
<Begasus>
yeah, but so far they only connection mentioned for Haiku
<Begasus>
yep, and as long as python3.10 is default that value there should be good enough to keep around (so users don't have to worry about what version they need to install)?
<OscarL>
yes, for now, that value should be enough.
<Begasus>
and I think Haiku will always come with a default version installed
<OscarL>
if it fails to find it, CudaText -> Command Palette-> "find python lib" should be enough (it finds 3.9, 3.10, and 3.11 for me here on 32 bits).
<OscarL>
Not sure why the .json file doesn't mentions that command.
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<Begasus>
was looking for that :D
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<OscarL>
my main issue was having CudaText requiring old versions of Python. I think I suggested just removing that depedency in the past. But again... not much use of CudaText without its plugins :-). I think that "cmd:python3" is a good compromise.
<Begasus>
3.9 3.10 3.12 :)
<Begasus>
I think there are plenty packages around that "use" python, but don't declare it as a dependency
<OscarL>
using "cmd:python3" as a proxy for "any libpython3.xx.so" makes it clear that CudaText "needs" python, but can do with pretty much any version.
<OscarL>
then maybe a SUGGESTS ?
<OscarL>
even if pkgman does nothing with those yet.
<Begasus>
haven't been using that one yet :-)
<OscarL>
or was it RECOMMENDS? Should take a look at libsolver.
<Begasus>
I'll wait on that untill Alexey does a new release :)
<aazam[m]>
Hello :)
<Begasus>
Hi aazam[m]
<aazam[m]>
I was looking into the WebPositive autoplay issue, so should I make a chekcbox to toggle the autoplay video feature in the settings page of webp?
<Begasus>
try using "libversion is 1.4.4 compat is 0" doesn't work :P
<OscarL>
"libversion = 0.1.4.4", right? or the "0" shouldn't really be there?
* OscarL
will write some library, and use .0.1.2.3.4.5.6 as version, just to piss off Begasus :-P
<OscarL>
_-Caleb-_: in case you want to try it... Beezer + SquashFS support: https://github.com/Teknomancer/beezer/pull/24 (only listing/extracting for now but... good enough, I think).
<Begasus>
0.1.4.4 is the link to the 1.4.4 one :)
<Begasus>
so libVersion is 1.4.4
<OscarL>
I might try to finish up Beezer support for HPKG next (listing works, but misses extractiion).
<OscarL>
(now that I more or less understand how to do it :-D)
<OscarL>
I should try to make haikuporter NOT do "pkgman install" when getting dependencies, but download the needed .hpkg into "haikuports/packages/". Guess I first need a "pkgman download" command.
<Begasus>
if they end up in system/packages or haikuports/packages doesn't matter on build time?
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<OscarL>
IIRC, if they are in haikuports/packages, it uses that instead of doing the "pkgman install".
<Begasus>
yeah, if they are present there the system ones are skipped
<OscarL>
not having to actually install the dependencies would help a lot with keeping the "host" environment clean (and my boot times in check :-D)
<Begasus>
make backups and copy them to haikuports/packages when needed?
<OscarL>
as workaround, yes. but I'm lazy, so I will end up wasting MORE time trying to make hp/pkgman do it for me :-)
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<Begasus>
lol
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<OscarL>
Ok... got Beezer to extract individual files from .hpkg, LOL. Always scary when things compile on the first try... even scarier then things actually WORK on the first try :-D
<phschafft>
OscarL++
<Begasus>
wtg! :)
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<OscarL>
truth be told... Teknomancer (with augiedoggie's help) made it way easy :-)
<Begasus>
Warning: POLICY WARNING: "/packaging/labplot/bin/labplot2" needs library "libQXlsxQt5.so.0.1.4.4", but the package doesn't seem to declare that as a requirement
<Begasus>
linking stage worked :P
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<Begasus>
k, missing scilab and sage now for labplot :P
<OscarL>
he was a bit puzzled because all the "verfied" ones had the same key fingerprint (you can click on the "verified" tag to see it yourself).
<OscarL>
tursn out... it is github itself the one signing them when you do things via the web interface.
<OscarL>
(or if you have signed them yourself, and enabled "vigilant mode" as per the link above)
<OscarL>
(but in that case, the key fingerprints would be different for each author)
<Begasus>
I think I'm blond ... can't see anything from "verified" :)
<OscarL>
on the commit list... to the right... a pretty visible "Verified" tag on green color should appear.
<Begasus>
ah, now I see it :)
<Begasus>
well, I don't have a gpg key assigned to github (at least not upstream) :P
<Begasus>
maybe that's why kgpg doesn't connect/open here :P
<OscarL>
no idea. what I've heard is... properly setting up gpg is an art on itself (and that's why newer versions of git allows signing with SSH keys, I think :-D)
<Begasus>
that's working at least, so no messing around there untill needed :P
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<OscarL>
there's a difference between using ssh keys for authentification, and signing commits.
<Begasus>
I think I heard about skrooge way before discovering mkmymoney
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<waddlesplash>
CuppaJoe5: it's all original
<waddlesplash>
the only parts from BSD are the actual hardware drivers
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<CuppaJoe5>
waddlesplash: has anyone attempted to add a firewall to the Haiku IP stack ? Im retired and very bored
<waddlesplash>
don't think so
<waddlesplash>
depends what kind of firewall you mean really
<waddlesplash>
Haiku is intended for use as a desktop OS not a server OS so I'm not sure how much use a firewall would be
<waddlesplash>
if it's being used behind routers anyway
<CuppaJoe5>
Was thinking just a basic stateless "is this port allowed" Yes/No kinda implementation
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<Begasus>
The retirements to the resque! :)
<Begasus>
Welcome CuppaJoe5 :)
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<CuppaJoe5>
hi Begasus. yep, retired from Unix background and need a project or 2
<CuppaJoe5>
Haiku has been great fun so far
<Begasus>
We can always use help from people that have the knowlidge and experience, even if it is only for brainstorming
<Begasus>
Or bikesheding :P
<nosycat>
A little more security would be welcomed by many Haiku users.
<Begasus>
yeah, almost as much as having firefox around :P
<CuppaJoe5>
I like to use Haiku as a Torrent box on mini netbook computers (Atom CPU). Just hook it up to the DMZ router port. A firewall might be nice there
<nosycat>
That makes sense. And welcome to the club! Netbooks are a favorite of many Haiku users.
<CuppaJoe5>
also, am not a security expert. The firewall catches a _log_ of my oops-es
<CuppaJoe5>
*lot
<CuppaJoe5>
see, theres another one!
<nosycat>
It can write a log too.
<Begasus>
put a tail on syslog and grep for accesses? (just blabering here)