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<Calisto>
Hi
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<Begasus>
Hi Calisto
<Calisto>
Heyyy
<Calisto>
finally got back home a few days to finally start working on my project.. I just had a small doubt to be honest. I wanted to create a divider in a BMenu. Is there any specific BMenuItem that I should look into. For now, I have just created one whose content is "-------------------------" and set its enabled status to false
<Calisto>
is there any other way to do it?
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<Begasus>
no clue here ;) but maybe someone can asnwer that
<Calisto>
oh okay :)
<Calisto>
hopefully someone answers :D
<Calisto>
For now I'll go ahead with the dashed thing
<Calisto>
since I can change it later on
<Calisto>
btw I think I had asked long ago whether it was possible to download packages of Haiku from some repo online?
<Calisto>
i installed Haiku on a spare laptop at home
<Calisto>
but I don't think the wifi adapter is recognized by Haiku
<Calisto>
so as of now, I don't have an internet connection on it. For that reason, I am unable to install Genio/Paladin/vim
<Calisto>
so is there any other way that I can get these packages downloaded from another laptop and load them onto a usb for installation in haiku?
<dovsienko>
Calisto: splash $5-10 on a RTL8188EUS USB adapter or you the wired connection, and you will not complicate things for yourself unnecessarily
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<Calisto>
yup thats what im planning to do
<Calisto>
easier to do that than to download all these packages xD
<Calisto>
plus Im thinking of keeping the spare laptop as a haiku only laptop
<Calisto>
right now it is on a triple boot with haiku installed as well
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<Begasus>
still thinking about dual booting the other laptop with some KDE install
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<Begasus>
but not looking forward on setting that up with EFI :P
<zard>
Nice. Now the docs for rc should appear when searching the web :)
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<CalistoMathias>
Heyyyy
<nosycat>
Hello!
<CalistoMathias>
heyyy there :)
<nosycat>
How are you?
<CalistoMathias>
im great :D
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<CalistoMathias>
how are you?
<nosycat>
Not bad either.
<CalistoMathias>
that's great
<CalistoMathias>
Btw I had 2 questions xD (as usual)... one related to my project and one kinda unrelated but something that I'm curious about
<CalistoMathias>
is it okay if i ask it rn?
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<nosycat>
Sure! Ask away and stick around.
<CalistoMathias>
well related to my project... I just wanted to know if there were any applications that were making use of custom Columns in BColumnListViews
<CalistoMathias>
I'm currently trying to lay out the user interface for a proposed next-gen tracker find window
<nosycat>
Beats me, sorry. Let's wait for someone who knows the native API.
<CalistoMathias>
oh okay
<CalistoMathias>
and apart from this one
<CalistoMathias>
is there any application for Haiku that performs encryption and decryption of files?
<CalistoMathias>
I was actually learning how AES-128 works and working through it for a side project... I just wanted to know whether there was an application on the OS so that I could go through some of its source code to see how things are done here
<CalistoMathias>
If there is one, I'd really love to have a pointer to it :D
<nosycat>
I haven't looked for one.
<CalistoMathias>
oh okay
<CalistoMathias>
if you do find one on the depot in the future, do let me know :)
<CalistoMathias>
I was actually trying to write an AES-128 decryptor so I just wanted to compare some of my code to one that's available on an Open source Operating system
<CalistoMathias>
ohhh... that's great.. thanks a lot @augiedoggie
<CalistoMathias>
I'll take a look at that
<CalistoMathias>
also what would your advice be on learning custom drawing?
<CalistoMathias>
It seems like something much harder than using the Interface Kit at the moment... so wanted to ask for some starting directions
<zard>
Tip: AFAIK, the @ symbol doesn't have any special meaning. Just having a name alone (e.g. CalistoMathias) may suffice
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<zard>
CalistoMathias: this syntax is the only syntax that is treated specially by my client (irssi)
<CalistoMathias>
Ohhhh okay
<CalistoMathias>
In the IRC chat that I use on my phone, it normally used to give me a list of names to select from if I typed out the @ so I guess I got used to that xD
<CalistoMathias>
Thanks zard
<augiedoggie>
i think i started learning about custom drawing from the "Programming the BeOS" book
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<zard>
Hmm, then that may be somewhat correct as well. As you can tell, IRC isn't very standardised along that front :-)
<CalistoMathias>
Oh okay
<CalistoMathias>
I guess ill check that book out then augiedoggie
<augiedoggie>
it's available for download on the Haiku website
<CalistoMathias>
do you think its beneficial for me to read the entire book as of now?
<CalistoMathias>
I do have spare time left till the official coding period starts if I get in
<CalistoMathias>
though I am trying to finish the user interface section of my project a bit earlier on
<augiedoggie>
i don't think it's required for your current task, but it has good information in it
<CalistoMathias>
oh okay
<CalistoMathias>
does it have any sort of flow for the chapters or can I directly pick off with the drawing chapters?
<augiedoggie>
i don't remember, it's been a really long time since i've read it
<CalistoMathias>
oh okay
<CalistoMathias>
thanks anyways tho... this is going to be a great help
<CalistoMathias>
of*
<CalistoMathias>
im still kind of confused about how this all figures into creating a new column but I guess its better to have all the information rather than parts of it xD
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<enadasa[m]>
Haiku has an irc client built in right?
<zard>
Yep, it's called Vision :)
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<enadasa[m]>
is it possible to log into this account through it?
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<zard>
No. You would have to make a separate account. Or else you can connect without an account
<enadasa[m]>
Ah
<zard>
Once connected, run "/nick endasa", and you should have your name
<enadasa[m]>
Ah
<zard>
Optionally, you can register that nickname so that only somebody with your password can use it. (This is what I meant when I said account)
<enadasa[m]>
I'll just use matrix for now
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<zard>
np :)
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<x512[m]>
Various Matrix clients are ported to Haiku.
<enadasa[m]>
Thanks for all the help tho
<enadasa[m]>
On another note is this the right place to discuss the development api?
<zard>
Yep, pretty much everything Haiku-related (and some off-topic) works
<Begasus>
ah, that's how it works when you send a attatchemnt in the matrix (in IRC) :)
<Begasus>
running NeoChat 24.04.2 here atm (together with Vision)
<Begasus>
reminds me to check out 24.04.80 ...
<enadasa[m]>
I'm trying to figure out which class controls text inside a window. Am a bit of a newbie in development.
<enadasa[m]>
Planned on teaching myself python c++ etc since I have nothing better to do.
<Begasus>
heh
<Begasus>
nice plan enadasa[m] :)
<Begasus>
aside from some #ifdef's I'm no good :)
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<zard>
I'm alway somewhat surprised by that. Somehow you manage to know where to place the #ifdef, despite not knowing much about coding :-)
<zard>
Ah wait, the compiler tells you the exact line, doesn't it? :-P
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<zard>
enadasa[m]: You can use a BStringItem to put some text inside of a window
<zard>
But it might be easier to start with a simple example application to get a feel for how things work
<enadasa[m]>
Thanks, now I just gotta make sure the python binding is the same. Since im planning on using python first
<zard>
I worked on the Python binding (Haiku-PyAPI) :D
<enadasa[m]>
epic lol
<zard>
It mostly works, but you'll probably eventually encounter some bugs (Tip: likely making a variable global can help)
<Begasus>
zard, compiler or at runtime you'll find out :)
<zard>
:)
<zard>
We tried to make Haiku-PyAPI as similar to the C++ API as possible
<enadasa[m]>
I just wanna take a moment to contemplate how much faster haiku is on a second gen i7 2600 than windows 11 on a 10th gen i7 10700k
<Begasus>
or linking errors (most I've seen passing by)
<enadasa[m]>
haiku wins every time
<Begasus>
Current stat on the KDE applications (most moved to KF6/Qt6) :) https://0x0.st/XH5S.png
<zard>
Nice. Dolphin, Konsole, Kate, Kwrite. A lot of the applications I use are there
<zard>
Ha, no suprise, Spectacle, the screenshot app isn't there. Probably difficult to port
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<PetePete>
sup sup sup
<zard>
bye all!
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<PetePete>
Wow... am I that repulsive?
<Begasus>
not sure what the issue was/is with spectacle, think plasma related
<Begasus>
Hi there PetePete
<PetePete>
"Hey there, Begleg." -Hank
<Begasus>
a few new dependencies for newer neochat
<PetePete>
I was thinking maybe we should change the name of this project to "PetePete"
<PetePete>
Has a nice ring to it
<Begasus[m]>
Too common :P
<PetePete>
You're right.
<PetePete>
It needs more panache!
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<PetePete>
How about "The OS formerly known as Haiku"?
<PetePete>
And we'll just give it a symbol for a name instead... or better yet!!! a FRAGRANCE!
<PetePete>
It will be known as *pulls out a scented stick*
<PetePete>
Think of all the time we'll save by not having to type out Haiku
<Begasus>
one of those "I know this" errors :) /sources/neochat-v24.04.80/src/windowcontroller.cpp:11:10: fatal error: KStartupInfo: No such file or directory
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<Begasus[m]>
K, NeoChat 24.04.80 up and running :D
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<Saijin_Naib[m]>
Anyone know of a way to zero-fill free space within HaikuOS?
<Saijin_Naib[m]>
I did a hacky workaround to make my HaikuOS VM and now I would like to sparsify the disk image
<Begasus>
a translator app would be nice now (wonders what sparisify means)
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<Saijin_Naib[m]>
Oh, sorry. I speak English natively and Spanish conversationally. Do we have any overlap?
<Begasus[m]>
Native is Dutch here, so English will do :)
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