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<HaikuUser2>
hello
<HaikuUser2>
i just installed Haiku for the 1st time
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<jhj>
Hi, I think I found a bug, but I wanted to check. I have a program that sizes an array based on '_POSIX_SSIZE_MAX' and this is blowing up on Haiku.
<jhj>
I can work around it, but I guess that could be right. It's always a much lower value on other systems. :/
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<OscarL>
augiedoggie: Beezer .hpkg file went from < 1 MiB to > 6 MiB in the last update (32 bits). Debug info left on?
<OscarL>
nvm, I see the ToDo on its .recipe
<OscarL>
So... CMD+Tab does "Next Tab" on Web+, but it doesn't responds to CMD+Shift+Tab. Mmm.
<augiedoggie>
yeah, x86_gcc2 size increased quite a bit compared to x86_64 bit
<augiedoggie>
only ~2-3 MB there
<OscarL>
the joys of gcc2 :-)
<augiedoggie>
i tried to talk Teknomancer into moving the main app to a newer gcc but he didn't seem interested
<augiedoggie>
i'm not entirely sure i want to attempt that anyhow, i'd have to use both compilers on 32 bit then
<augiedoggie>
for the Tracker add-on
<OscarL>
as in... Tracker only accepts gcc2 addons? :-(
<augiedoggie>
yeah
<augiedoggie>
as far as i know
<OscarL>
fiteredquery still not part of the base images :-(
<augiedoggie>
i never attempted to add it
<augiedoggie>
i think the command line options should be redone and the defaults changed
<augiedoggie>
it's basically just query + grep
<OscarL>
beats having to remember to use grep on queries results for me :-P
<augiedoggie>
i found it's faster to do basic searches like that with another tool
<augiedoggie>
filteredquery is only reall useful when querying attributes and filetypes
<augiedoggie>
or if you're searching many thousands of files
<OscarL>
mmm... we still build Pe with gcc2, no wonder I've found the compiler error messages where even less readable than usual :-D
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<OscarL>
Pe's Jamfiles' "IS_GCC_4_PLATFORM" detection on 32 bits ain't working alright (after `setarch x86`), had to force it ON to make it build with gcc13
<OscarL>
To whom should I ask to see if I can get my Pe commit access restored?
<OscarL>
(I had commit access on the BerliOS days, and when it first moved to Github, not sure when I lost it :-/)
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<Begasus>
g'morning peeps
<OscarL>
Morning Begasus.
<PriyanshuGupta[m]>
morning Begasus
<Begasus>
hi there OscarL PriyanshuGupta[m]
<Begasus>
PS, the icon thing still present in the nightlies too OscarL
<Begasus>
nightly's(?) :)
<OscarL>
I use "nightlies", unless I get a typo in there, as is tradition :-P
<Begasus>
heh, normaly I'm good there, guess I'm not awake enough :P
* OscarL
could use a coffee too.
<Begasus>
fresh one ...
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<OscarL>
jam is SO picky with missing spaces before/after "()", "[]" , ";", etc... :-/
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<OscarL>
(and the errors it gives you in those cases, rival gcc2 level of usefulness :-P)
<Begasus>
err .. how?
<Begasus>
I only do "jam -q -j12 @nightly-anyboot"?
<OscarL>
never forgot a ";" or "{" in a .cpp file? old GCC could spit out LOADS of output, except tell you where you missed that ";".
<Begasus>
ah, I'm not touching those :P
<Begasus>
atleast not in the Haiku source ;)
<OscarL>
if you forget a space before a final ";" in a jamfile... similar results :-)
<Begasus>
still busy with Pe?
<OscarL>
yup.
<Begasus>
k, caught up on the forum ...
<Begasus>
quite busy these days
<Begasus>
Tuesday, 5 March 2024. Today KDE releases a bugfix update to KDE Plasma 6, versioned 6.0.1. ... back to square one :P
<Begasus>
ah no, it's plasma only :P
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<OscarL>
Seems I finally fixed Pe's Jamfile's detection of x86_gcc vs x86. Wish these things didn't take me so long :-/
<OscarL>
GCC2 build took 1m43s, GCC13 one took 3m49s 8-|
<OscarL>
GCC13 binaries are smaller at least :-D
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<Begasus>
haven't looked, but is Pe build for both arch's?
<Begasus>
in a while*
<OscarL>
currently is set as "all"
<OscarL>
I remember that we might want to move Paladin to x86, and as I'm trying to fix some interactions between Pe and Paladin (or BeIDE)... got me trying to build Pe for x86, just in case.
<OscarL>
Interaction is only by BMessages, so it doesn't really matters if one is build with for x86 and the other for gcc2, but...
<OscarL>
had to try... and Pe's jam files were not being too cooperative if you used `setarch x86`.
<Begasus>
It's a better editor then what I'm doing with it, so can't tell all it's ins and outs :)
<Begasus>
wasn't Koder more connected to Paladin?
<OscarL>
sometimes it drives me nuts... but somehow... I always end up in Pe :-D
<Begasus>
more then usual? ;)
<Begasus>
heh
<Begasus>
like me and python :P
* OscarL
takes note: reduce Pe usage, and see if craziness decreses.
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<Begasus>
can't blame it all on Pe :P
<OscarL>
Mmm. I got diagnosed AFTER I started using Pe. Coincidence? Don't think so! :-P
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<Begasus>
lol
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<OscarL>
Wish this poor PC could handle two VMs at the same time :-/
<phschafft>
oh?
* phschafft
starts going on like 'Back in the day when we added every 8KB RAM module we had into our machines...' but luckly someone slowly fades him down to full mute.
<OscarL>
old Phenom II, DDR2-800, Win10 host. It barely handles one VM and Firefox at the same time :-D
<phschafft>
hm.
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<Begasus>
38% tests passed, 38 tests failed out of 61 (progress, last run it failed on 42 tests) :)
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<OscarL>
Pe build on 64 bits... 6s faster than GCC13 on 32 bits. Both got smoked by good old gcc2 being 2 minutes faster :-D
<OscarL>
(wasn't expecting that)
<Begasus>
optimized for gcc2? :)
<OscarL>
Damn it... I've set Haiku's Keymap to "Haiku mode" (trying to not confuse myself further while changing Terminal keybindings)...
<OscarL>
and now I keep trying to use CTRL+C/V on Haiku... and ALT+C/V on Windows :-(
<Begasus>
heh
<phschafft>
try ^ins and shift-ins ;;)
* phschafft
adjusts his mane to hide the extra eyes.
<Begasus>
mane?
<OscarL>
I will attempt to make those available on Haiku at some point. I can already heear some pitchfork-sharpening, mmm.
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<OscarL>
(already locally added the needed ESC-code support for them to Terminal, too bad no editor seems to use them :-D)
<OscarL>
TextSearch with a simple glob filter ("*.h,*.c,*.cpp" for example) would be great (even better with a pop-up menu with the previously used filters).
<Begasus>
there is this cli tool that can do that OscarL, name escapes me though :(
<Begasus>
extrowerk mentioned it back then ;)
<Begasus>
the_silver_searcher?
<Begasus>
yep, cmd:ag
<OscarL>
I mean... can't be that hard, TextSearch already uses grep, so... just a matter of adding the damn filter. But I'm soooo slooow, unfocused... and the ToDo list keeps growing and growing :-D
<Begasus>
keep getting distract from finishing up on the KF6 frameworks :P
<Begasus>
distracted*
<OscarL>
Mmm, conflicting BMessage 'what' constants in Paladin... trace back to DarkWyrm himself (there since 2010 at least) :-/
<Begasus>
oh, seems that for some recipes libQt6QuickTest is needed to build the tests ...
<Begasus>
kirigami tests werent found, now I got 94% tests passed, 2 tests failed out of 33
<Begasus>
not bad :P
<OscarL>
nice
<Begasus>
whoot, and kcmutils6 seems to need kirigami6 for the tests, no errors there :D
<OscarL>
one day we'll have people trying to fix the failing ones (same with Python's :-D)
<Begasus>
haven't look at the errors for kirigami6 yet ;)
<Begasus>
Compared values are not the same*
<Begasus>
seeing those quite often on the tests
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<Begasus>
and 'wait for signal currentIndexChanged' returned FALSE. ()
<Begasus>
maybe not the right solution, but maybe also could provide some information about the failing tests
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<OscarL>
you should share that with 3dEyes, maybe theres an off-by-one issue he can fix on his qt6haikuplugins (or whatever its called).
<andreasdr[m]>
hi there.
<OscarL>
morning andreasdr[m]!
<Begasus[m]>
3dEyes is looking in here ;)
<andreasdr[m]>
Hi OscarL and Begasus.
<Begasus>
Hi andreasdr[m]
* OscarL
waves at 3dEyes behind the mirror :-)
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<Begasus>
No tests were found!!! :/ why not!! it did a minute ago :P
<Begasus>
-- Qt6QuickTest not found, autotests will not be built.
<Begasus>
... ^^
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<M3dEyes[m]>
<OscarL> "you should share that with..." <- This may be a rounding error when converting QRect to BRect and back again
<M3dEyes[m]>
* back again in QPA
<Begasus>
k, why isn't it picking up Qt6QuickTest now :/
<Begasus>
M3dEyes[m], something that should be fixed on our side?
<Begasus>
quite common failure when running the tests on the frameworks
<OscarL>
Begasus: it saw you cheating with the results, and it quit :-P
<Begasus>
yeah, looks like it :P
<M3dEyes[m]>
Begasus: yep
<M3dEyes[m]>
Begasus: yep
<Begasus>
see OscarL, could lead to something good :)
<OscarL>
indeed :-)
<Begasus>
even with my stupid sollutions :P
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<Begasus>
weird, if I disable the line with libQt6QuickTest on the first run in the recipe and then do a second build with it enabled it finds it ...
<Begasus>
well ... tests fine now :)
<Begasus>
k, moving kirigami6 up the build script :)
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<Begasus>
kcmutils6 fine too :)
<Begasus>
kinit obsoleted in kf6
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<Begasus>
kactivities moved to plasma_activities
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<Begasus>
heh, by the time I'm done with 6.0.0 I think they are releasing bugfix release for 6.0.1 :P
<Anarchos>
Begasus i made great progress with my killer app : did you see the screen shot yesterday ?
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<Begasus>
missed it Anarchos
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<Begasus>
see it now Anarchos, +1 shaping up well
<Anarchos>
now my data files are modular :)
<Begasus>
no idea what that means, but I guess it's progress :D
<dovsienko>
does anybody know why GCC 13 keeps spitting out these warnings? /boot/system/develop/tools/bin/../lib/gcc/x86_64-unknown-haiku/13.2.0/../../../../x86_64-unknown-haiku/bin/ld: NOTE: This behaviour is deprecated and will be removed in a future version of the linker
<dovsienko>
or rather that's Clang 12.0.1 using GCC ld, but still?
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<Begasus>
ah, no wonder I can't find libkdeinit5_klauncher for KF6, no kinit :P
<zard>
Hooray! Fstrim freed 6 GB for the host system.
<zard>
If anyone else is using QEMU and their disk image is using much more space than the files actually stored by Haiku, then they might want to look into it
<zard>
But, be forewarned, setup can be a little tricky
<Begasus>
nice, breeze-icons tess all passed now (needs fdupes) :)
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<OscarL>
I finally implemented that "open Pe on this file:line:column" thing (both via `lpe` and `/bin/open` that Terminal uses when "hyperlinking" filenames), more or less properly :-)
<OscarL>
Time for bed. Later folks. Have a nice day!
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<Anarchos>
how to update SSL certificates ? I updated from an old rev (months ago) to nightyly and i got an SSL certificate problem when accessing github
<dovsienko>
Anarchos: what is the error message?
<Anarchos>
SSL certificate problem: certificate is not yet valid
<Anarchos>
dovsienko ah machine is stuck in 2010 :)
* zard
starts trying to build haikuwebkit
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<Begasus>
take a coffee to go with that zard (I think) ;)
<zard>
Yes, at least, once it's running along happily :)
<Begasus>
heh
<Begasus>
k, can't have both libraries for kdiagram (old and new with the same name) ... switching to kdiagram3
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<Anarchos>
what is the program to use to open .djvu files ?
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<Begasus>
djvureader Anarchos
<Begasus>
or something like it :)
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<Begasus>
djvuviewer
<Begasus>
or documentviewer
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<augiedoggie>
iirc calibre can open djvu files too
<zard>
868/5405 files compiled, but things are going slower now (had to decrease threads). This could take all day!
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<Anarchos>
Begasus i tried djvuviewer but it doesn't work on my document
<Anarchos>
Begasus strrange : if i open djvuviewer and then open the document i tworks. if i do 'open file' in Terminal it doesn'' work
<nekobot>
[haiku/haiku] 02463fb46190 - kernel/int: consolidate interrupt vector number to `int32`
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<Begasus>
oi humdinger
<humdinger>
hi ho!
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<Begasus>
might be something to add to the depot? You are using rav1e encoder. It is recommended to enable libAOM encoder in libavif to use lossless compression.
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* humdinger
is idle: BRB
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<Begasus>
let's put this on hold for now :)
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<zard>
Fixed error. Compipilation is now at 2011/5405
<Begasus>
whoot! wtg zard :D
<Begasus>
I'm hoping that after a first build things get easier? ;)
<zard>
Yes, it should :)
<Begasus>
90% tests passed, 2 tests failed out of 20 for kimageformats, good enough for now (those 2 are related to libaom/libavif) :)
<Begasus>
in Terminal libaom builds fine, with haikuporter I'm getting -fPIC issue :/
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<Begasus>
funny guys ;) XFAIL : IndentTest::testCstyle(switch13) pure insanity, whoever wrote this test and expects that to be indented properly should stop writing code
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<Begasus>
closing down for today, cu peeps!
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<Anarchos>
hello
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<Anarchos>
how to synchronise date with network time in terminal ?
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<coolcoder613_32>
Good morning
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<Anarchos>
coolcoder613_32 i just got to bed :)
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* coolcoder613_32
is "down under"
<coolcoder613_32>
It is 8:00 AM here
<Anarchos>
22:00 here
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<phschafft>
coolcoder613_32: may I ask for the general area?
<coolcoder613_32>
Australia
<coolcoder613_32>
Victoria
<nsnod>
Hey everyone! I just found out about GSOC yesterday and I'm wanting to help anyway before applications open. I know I might be a little late because I just found out about GSOC but is there still time to join?
<coolcoder613_32>
Melbourne
<phschafft>
coolcoder613_32: and how do you like it?
<phschafft>
nsnod: happy to hear about your interest. and help is surely always welcome.
<coolcoder613_32>
It's nice here, except when it gets very hot
<phschafft>
not sure who corrdinates the GSOC thing however *points into random directions*
* phschafft
nods.
<coolcoder613_32>
I think it was like 38 C a few weeks ago
<nsnod>
phschafft: thank you! ill get to work today seeing what I can start doing and getting a workflow setup
<phschafft>
but it should now get a little colder?
<phschafft>
nsnod: also, generally feel free to ask here any technical (or non technical) question. there are many really helpful people around.
<nsnod>
phscahfft: awesome! sounds good thank you :)
<coolcoder613_32>
phschafft: it's about 17 now
* phschafft
nods and smiles to both of them.
<coolcoder613_32>
but this saturday should go up to ~39
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<phschafft>
I hope I can visit at some point. but I would avoid the hot days, more a person of snow myself.
<coolcoder613_32>
No snow here
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<phschafft>
maybe I bring you some?
<coolcoder613_32>
Thanks, but we already have water here ;)
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<phschafft>
then I just need to bring the cold. ;)
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<PulkoMandy>
nsnod: Hello, it is the right time for GSoC. There are some candidates already, but the official application period isn't yet open I think (I'm supposed to manage this for Haiku, I should know better...)
<PulkoMandy>
Anyways, you can read our "informations for contributors" page atwww.haiku-os.org/community/gsoc hopefully it gives a good starting point to see what's expected
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