#wayland on 2023-08-18 — irc logs at oftc.irclog.whitequark.org

2023-04-28 11:16 ChanServ changed the topic of #wayland to: https://wayland.freedesktop.org | Discussion about the Wayland protocol and its implementations, plus libinput

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00:07 <akik> do you have an idea why i can't find X1 with find?

00:07 <akik> i start Xwayland like this: nohup Xwayland -br -ac -noreset :1 >/dev/null 2>&1 &

00:09 <akik> i might remove -noreset for this setup

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09:26 <emersion> zzag: i've heard kwin doesn't support presentation-time, any plans to address this?

09:28 <zzag> On the todo list

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09:30 <emersion> i contemplated requiring it for nested wlroots, but couldn't because of that :P

09:32 <emersion> i just realized surface-transaction is a subset of explicit-sync-v2

09:33 <emersion> one can submit the same sync point to multiple surfaces, and atomically signal it

09:34 <emersion> hm, but the sync point is a side-channel, so has no ordering guarantees with the rest of the wayland protocol messages, so maybe doesn't work for some use-cases

09:35 <emersion> regardless, it's good to have this functionality not depend on advanced linux DRM primitives

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10:12 <akik> now i'm starting Xwayland in wsl 2 like this "nohup Xwayland -br -ac :1 >/dev/null 2>&1 &". i can't still find X1 socket file anywhere

10:13 <akik> https://termbin.com/mgak (lsof output)

10:14 <akik> it's not in /tmp/.X11-unix

10:14 <akik> x11 apps still work

10:14 <akik> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

10:16 <akik> is it some special kind of socket living in the Xwayland process?

10:18 <pq> akik, have you tried without redirecting stdout and stderr to /dev/null? Maybe it complains there about something?

10:18 <akik> pq: no. i'll try that now. thanks

10:19 <emersion> oh, a wild pq appears

10:19 <MrCooper> maybe there's only an abstract socket? What does 'lsof | grep X1' say?

10:19 <pq> emersion, hi, holiday overran :-)

10:19 <emersion> wb!

10:19 <pq> ty

10:20 <akik> pq: i get this: https://paste.linux.chat/?a32c136653be2fb6#6rF3tHeGgsEgMjw6Z3pBqQQPTqaEr5ZsujNyWQikCVit

10:20 <pq> four weeks without ever looking at IRC at all

10:20 <JEEB> :)

10:20 <JEEB> I did something similar in May-June

10:21 <pq> akik, I think it might be saying that it cannot create the socket you are expecting.

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10:22 <pq> maybe it really wants the dir permissions to be 1777? I dunno.

10:22 <akik> pq: /tmp is 1777

10:22 <pq> this might get WSL-specific, I guess

10:22 <pq> not /tmp but /tmp/.X11-unix

10:22 <akik> MrCooper: lsof | grep X1 shows those same @/tmp/.X11-unix/X1

10:23 <akik> oh yea it's 0777

10:23 <MrCooper> does the @ denote an abstract socket? Not sure offhand

10:25 <akik> looks like it's some strange wsl 2 thing with /tmp. i can write there but i can't change /tmp/.X11-unix permissions

10:26 <akik> none on /tmp/.X11-unix type tmpfs (ro,relatime)

10:26 <akik> ro

10:27 <akik> # cat /run/tmpfiles.d/x11.conf

10:27 <akik> # Note: This file is generated by WSL to prevent systemd-tmpfiles from removing /tmp/.X11-unix during boot.

10:27 <akik> but that file is all there, just one commented out line

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10:29 <akik> To summarize, there are now three layers of protection for the X11 socket:

10:29 <akik> /tmp/.X11-unix is mounted ready-only

10:30 <akik> https://github.com/microsoft/WSL/issues/9126

10:31 <akik> oh ok there's a comment that i can remount that rw

10:31 <akik> ok that works

10:33 <akik> ... and the X1 socket file appeared. thank you very much

10:36 <akik> more discussion about the issue: https://github.com/microsoft/WSL/issues/9303

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13:27 <bl4ckb0ne> zamundaaa[m]: didnt drakulix[m] already signed up for the meeting in the doodle?

13:29 <zamundaaa[m]> oh, I should've looked at that before

13:29 <drakulix[m]> I did to not block things, but technically I am still on holiday and very limited in availability. I wouldn’t mind another delay. 🙃

13:31 <bl4ckb0ne> looks like we're aiming for monday 9am est anyway

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13:36 <drakulix[m]> monday? didnt the poll start with thuesday?

13:38 <bl4ckb0ne> oh right it does, sorry

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17:54 <jadahl> emersion: you don't happen to be in osaka 17/18/19 september? :o

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18:03 <kennylevinsen> That was a random question

18:03 <psykose> context is status post

18:09 <jadahl> indeed

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18:11 <wlb> weston Merge request !1346 opened by Derek Foreman (derekf) desktop-shell: Fix shell fade animations https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/wayland/weston/-/merge_requests/1346 [Desktop shell]

18:16 <emersion> jadahl: aha, not quite sure yet, but possible, my plans for end of sept are not quite laid out yet... i'll reach it if i am :)

18:16 <emersion> reach out*

18:18 <jadahl> emersion: make sure to do so! i'm going from kobe to osaka the 17th, and leaving the 19th

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18:25 <emersion> ack!

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