ChanServ changed the topic of #wayland to: https://wayland.freedesktop.org | Discussion about the Wayland protocol and its implementations, plus libinput
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<wlb> wayland-protocols Merge request !244 opened by Simon Zeni (bl4ckb0ne) joystick-v1: new protocol https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/wayland/wayland-protocols/-/merge_requests/244
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<DodoGTA> Is there any problem with this patch?: https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/xorg/xserver/-/issues/1350#note_1782556
<MrCooper> Wayland doesn't allow influencing the position of the cursor while it's visible
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<bivor> Hey Guys, I had a question. Is there any plan to support proper picture in picture protocol in the near future?
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<bl4ckb0ne> theres one already iirc
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<orowith2os[m]> Has anybody actually tried using a bare minimum Wayland compositor, with a rootful Xwayland session, to run old X11 stuff?
<kennylevinsen> orowith2os[m]: that's what I do
<orowith2os[m]> perfect; I'd like to investigate and document it if necessary, and see if I can get old X11 DEs and WMs going :)
<kennylevinsen> My compositor has no Xwayland support so in the rare case I need X11 (e.g. wine) I use Xwayland rootful
<kennylevinsen> Was awful before the new resize handling, now it's pretty decent
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<orowith2os[m]> just how much does running Xwayland with root net you?
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<orowith2os[m]> basically everything from Xorg (without most of the nasty Xorg-specific bugs)?
<kennylevinsen> Net me in what way?
<kennylevinsen> Stuff works although without a wm windows can be annoying, so sometimes you end up needing e.g. i3
<kennylevinsen> so I have a minimal i3 config for those cases and a convenience i3launch script
<kennylevinsen> It helps avoid really quirky xwm behavior that Wayland compositors have a hard time with
<orowith2os[m]> net as in, what features work, what doesn't, does the compositor need to do anything special, and should it (e.g. implementing other Wayland protocols for native Wayland clients)
<kennylevinsen> Although sometimes a nested sway is nicer exactly because it behaves a bit wrong and the developer intended behavior was shit lol
<orowith2os[m]> and just how hard is it to set up?
<kennylevinsen> Just run Xwayland :0 -decorate with latest master or release
<kennylevinsen> Optionally DISPLAY=:0 i3 -c some_minimal_config
<kennylevinsen> Nothing Xwayland specific required from the compositor
<orowith2os[m]> alrighty, gonna set up Arch on my spare SSD with btrfs snapshots n whatnot so I can fuck around n find out
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<DodoGTA> MrCooper: I think that only applies to XWayland (the cursor can be locked when it's visible on Wayland because I tested winewayland)
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<orowith2os[m]> kennylevinsen: are you able to walk me through this real quick?
<orowith2os[m]> I've got cage, sway, i3, and Xwayland
<orowith2os[m]> Not sure where to go from here
<orowith2os[m]> Oh, I seem to have gotten it
<orowith2os[m]> cage kgx
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<ifreund> oh shit, rootful xwayland is resizable now? that's amazing
<kennylevinsen> yeah, latest release added -decorate but master can also do it without the csd now
<kennylevinsen> Super convenient
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