ChanServ changed the topic of #asahi to: Asahi Linux: porting Linux to Apple Silicon macs | https://asahilinux.org/2022/03/asahi-linux-alpha-release/ | General project discussion | GitHub: https://alx.sh/g | Wiki: https://alx.sh/w | Topics: #asahi-dev #asahi-re #asahi-gpu #asahi-alt #asahi-stream #asahi-offtopic | Keep things on topic | Logs: https://alx.sh/l/asahi
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<trantminh> hi everyone
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<cmalvi> Hi, due to irc client doesn't keep messages when i'm offline is difficult to me to keep in the loop with developement progress, so can i ask you how is going? :)
<j`ey> I think a new progress report is in the works
<cmalvi> oh ok thanks, so i'll keep an eye on the website
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<hell__> doesn't /topic have a link to logs?
<jannau> it still has at the end: "Logs: https://alx.sh/l/asahi"
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<hell__> right, cmalvi seems unaware
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<willem> Hello, has anyone managed to get Guix SD running on Asahi? If so is there an example system definition and a rough path of what you did to get it working? (I can't seem to build an aarch64 installer system image on any of my machines)
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<tpw_rules> did you see my work on nixos?
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<willem> No I haven't.
<willem> Ah, thanks
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<tpw_rules> the major change is the asahi kernel repo and config, it's a pretty normal nixos experience otherwise. i am completely unfamiliar with guix sd except the knowledge that it shares philosophies with nixos
<tpw_rules> i added some bonus stuff to manage the asahi boot components and firmware too but that is not hard to do manually or completely ignore for your first attempt
<tpw_rules> i also cut down the default nixos installer iso considerably to make it easy to cross compile
<willem> (I have never used nix) So it seems that you defined an installation system image that gets built to install it on a blank bootloader only Asahi install, did you have to cross compile from an existing NixOS machine or were you able to build using the macOS version of Nix?
<tpw_rules> yes. it's cross compilable from any linux machine running nix. there have been attempts to cross compile from macOS but it's not really practical now
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<willem> Oh ok, so you did cross compile, I think that is currently where I am having the most trouble. Building in a VM on mac seems to fail an be very slow. I guess I will try to cut down the Guix installer and continue my cross compile attempts (seems to take over 12 hours at which point I stopped it because it seemed to have frozen)
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<tpw_rules> what do you mean cross compile?
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<willem> Compiling on a Guix install I have on an x86_64 machine.
<tpw_rules> ah, yes
<tpw_rules> UTM using apple's hypervisor stuff runs very well for me, i can compile it natively too there
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<willem> Oh ok, maybe I'll give that another shot, I think something broke because I did it in a UTM VM with rosetta enabled, so maybe it'll work second try.
<tpw_rules> do the guix people regularly build aarch64 images?
<willem> No, they only build x86_64 images unfortunately, I think it has something to do with too many system configurations available.
<tpw_rules> if you are interested in aarch64 stuff and guix, maybe you can bring that up with them
<tpw_rules> nixos is by default built as a generic uefi iso and a couple raspberry π variant
<willem> Yeah, I might try to bring that up, although I think people have brought it up in the past and nothing happened.
<willem> (recently)
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<tpw_rules> i just thought it was a nice post that lays out the challenges and a path forward to making it practical
<willem> Yeah that forum post seems to bring up a lot of good points, I'll try building an installer on a new VM, otherwise maybe I'll install Asahi Arch and then build from there...
<tpw_rules> good luck and respect
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<bcrumb> now it needs to be journald instead of syslogd and also that first stuff handled and being able to dynamic opts
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