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<nicolas17>
I noticed some colors look weird on the MBP, like too saturated... any chance asahi/wayland/plasma/something isn't properly handling the wide gamut display?
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<marcan>
that's entirely likely. I think Apple uses wider gamut framebuffers by default, and we have no way of expressing that in simpledrm so it'll just pretend it's sRGB.
<marcan>
DCP should give us the metadata we need to handle that properly, if userspace plays ball
<jannau>
that sounds like dcp with 10-bit color format. disabled for now. issue is most likely that dcp offers only a color mode with depth 8. I've deferred investigating it for brightness control (and dcpext)
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<mkurz>
bluetail: So yeah it seems the MacBook Pros come with SSDs...
<mkurz>
Someone here has fstrmi enabled on a MacBook Pro?
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<mkurz>
bluetail: I guess all M1/M2 devices Apple ships come with SSDs
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<bluetail>
you guess? Trim is meant for making the life of ssds a little bit longer. Though on macOS there was some kind of nasty thing reported which affects all devices running OSx. It was something about read/write cache and the way it purges it, leaving to inevitable file corruption at some point. But shouldnt be there on asahi / arch and others
<mkurz>
OK, so you say it's safe to run it under Asahi/Arch?
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<jannau>
nicolas17: your color saturation issue sounds like dcp with 10-bit color format. disabled for now. issue is most likely that dcp offers only a color mode with depth 8. I've deferred investigating it for brightness control (and dcpext)
<jannau>
you can cherry-pick acaa9168d19be02bb92f155a952deed0cd993223 to disable the 10-bit color format
<nicolas17>
hmm I'm on a normal install with the public kernel, so afaik no DCP driver
<jannau>
yes. it's not dcp then. is the saturation issue clearly noticeable? 13 or 14/16 inch macbook pro?
<nicolas17>
13" M2
<nicolas17>
I may be wrong but I couldn't think of an *objective* way to know if the colors are off or not
<jannau>
compare with another display (known good) next to it with similar brightness showing the same image
<mkurz>
Is it normal that hdparam does not show anything for my drive? $ sudo hdparm -I /dev/nvme0n1
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<bluetail>
is hdsentinel not available?
<bluetail>
nicolas17 I had the inverse issue. Colors appear too saturated on a monitor that doesnt even support the range. That's when I started to use the mac device only headless
<nicolas17>
bluetail: heh, I haven't tried external monitor
<nicolas17>
my monitors have VGA or HDMI, and I didn't buy an HDMI adapter for the MBP
<bluetail>
I doubt I'll be able to prove it anyways
<bluetail>
but on the m1 mini, what you connect to the hdmi port is essentially what would've been used for the internal display
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<sven>
mkurz: this is not a regular ssd, it’s a custom flash controller exposed via nvme
<sven>
doesn’t surprise me that normal tools meant for regular hdd/ssd don’t work
<mkurz>
sven: Alright. So does that mean fstrim is NOT necessary?
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<mkurz>
sven: Thanks!
<mkurz>
So I will keep it disabled.
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<millenialhacker>
I see my M1 Pro really hot while building chromium. Should I expect Fans to be activated? Are Fans controlled by Asahi Kernel or it's something handled by co-processors firmware?
<psykose>
you should expect your fans to be active when literally using 100% of the cpu, yes
<millenialhacker>
I see CPUs at 100% (except one) and fans off still
<ChaosPrincess>
they do not kick in immediately
<ChaosPrincess>
apple optimizes for silence over perf
<millenialhacker>
Cool, thanks!
<millenialhacker>
Has anyone build chromium / webkit in M1 Pro / Ultra / Max that can give me some build time guesstimate?
<millenialhacker>
s/build/built/g
<ChaosPrincess>
leave it overnight, lol
<millenialhacker>
:D
<millenialhacker>
I was hoping < 30m
<ChaosPrincess>
hahahaha
<millenialhacker>
:D
<millenialhacker>
Was it a good joke?
<ChaosPrincess>
i built it on dual 10-core xeon e5s, it takes more than 30m
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<ChaosPrincess>
ofc, m1 has way higher ipc, but having 2x the cores and 4x the threads helps a lot
<zshrc>
If you're doing builds on macOS I recommend using a fan controller. I keep mine at 1500 rpm constantly. Keeps it cool and can't be heard.
<nicolas17>
millenialhacker: I'm on M2 MBP and compiling the Linux kernel quickly makes the fans turn on, but some other non-compiler all-core workloads don't
<millenialhacker>
nicolas17: interesting... mine are not active yet. I think it's because I'm using j8 but this MBP M1 Pro has 10 cores, so there are always two cores available
<nicolas17>
that's one possibility
<nicolas17>
another possibility is that the larger MBPs (with Pro/Max) have better passive cooling than the 13"
<millenialhacker>
This one is 14" so I think it's same form factor as 13" but a slightly bigger screen, right?
<millenialhacker>
well.. actually I think chassis is also a little bit bigger as well
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<millenialhacker>
compared to MBP M1
<ChaosPrincess>
doesnt it have 2 fan vs 1 of the 13-inchers
<nicolas17>
I mean it *has* to have better cooling because M1 Pro is going to heat more than M1, question is if it has >2x better cooling for <2x heat :P