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<phire>
it's a tiny bit awkard that the asahi linux installer ships with linux 5.19, and wifi isn't supported until 6.1
<nicolas17>
phire: the asahi linux installer doesn't install a vanilla/upstream kernel
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<nicolas17>
wifi may have been finally merged upstream in 6.1 but it already works in asahi's version
<phire>
yes, but wifi isn't supported until asahi-6.1
<phire>
oh, missread, it is upstream 6.1
<j`ey>
huh, we had wifi in 5.19 too
<phire>
anyway, didn't work on my t6001 until I updated
<j`ey>
dont think there was any changes to wifi in recent updates
<phire>
weird.
<phire>
other issue I ran into was that uboot appears to bootloop if you have a usbc to display port adapter plugged in
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<phire>
I got a screenshot of the error: "scanning bus usb0f02280000 for devices... Device NOT ready. Request Sense returned 02 3A 00", then it does a Synchronous Abort
<tpw_rules>
i think that's just a bit of a thing. i've seen reports of the same error with certain usb storage devices. maybe there is a bug on the error handling path there
<phire>
checking the github issues, appears to be a diffrent error
<phire>
actually... the usb error is a red herring
<phire>
simply the last thing that got printed to the screen before the abort
<tpw_rules>
oh?
<phire>
yeah, tried to reproduce and the error still shows up
<phire>
but doesn't abort, and continues to boot
<phire>
oh.... nevermind, this is a newer version of uboot
<phire>
Aug 14, rather than Jul 11. It was probally fixed
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<mac456>
The Wiki says "Apple Silicon Macs are designed to be brick-proof. They can be recovered from another machine by using a USB cable and booting from ROM, even if all NOR and NVMe contents are destroyed"
<mac456>
But I don't think this is strictly speaking correct. The ACEs/CD17s have their own Winbond SPI NOR Flash chip with their firmware, and if that firmware became corrupted, there would be no way to do a USB DFU restore because USB itself wouldn't work.
<mac456>
Correct or is there a backdoor way to access the DFU SPI interface?
<tpw_rules>
is it possible to touch that chip using the machine itself?
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<vivithecanine>
I put it in on yubico's website so someone can't replay attach you MacBookAirM2
<vivithecanine>
erm mac456
<vivithecanine>
you should consider disabling that mode on your yubikey
<nicolas17>
they left
<vivithecanine>
ah, smart filter hid that from me
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<tobhe_>
I think I read something about asahi-installer now being able to update the bootloader. Can it also update pre-stage2 installations that do not yet have a /boot/efi/m1n1 directory?
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<marcan>
tobhe: not correctly, those are probably too old for the mechanism to work anyway
<marcan>
anything prior to the first official release is unsupported and you should probably reinstall or surgically upgrade manually
<tobhe>
k, thanks for clearing that up :)
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<zv>
hey, I'm sure this has been asked a million times but I recently updated Debian and now it cannot find or load firmware for the BCM4378 chip, was this intentional?
<zv>
using the m1 mini
<sven>
please ask the maintainer of that debian distribution and/or #asahi-alt
<mps>
zv: for non asahi distro better ask on #asahi-alt
<zv>
ok. reason I asked here first is because this was set up using glanzmann's image originally
<zv>
thanks
<jannau>
zv: no problem, we've probably split up #asahi-alt since then. the main reason being that we can't keep track of implementation details of other distros with asahi support
<zv>
it makes sense, and that is indeed a good "problem" to have. keep up the good work.
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<WindowPain>
Congratulations on the new release! Hope the last minute pipewire switch works :)
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<vivithecanine>
getting an m1 mini tomorrow, excited to stick asahi on it :)
<delsol>
I wish Apple put a couple USB ports on the AppleTV4k. It would make a great little low power linux box.
<ChaosPrincess>
If you are ok with a cursed solution - use the hidden lightning port on it :P
<_jannau_>
also ignoring the obvious problem of the missing support for other OS'
<ChaosPrincess>
At least some apple tvs are checkrainable, so not that big of a problem
<delsol>
ChaosPrincess: Not there yet, but performance would surely be better than the J1900's I'm stuck using half the time...
<ChaosPrincess>
Might i interest you in rk3588 based set top boxes?
<delsol>
thats actually not a horrible idea maybe.
<delsol>
You have a model/supplier you've been using and happy with?
<ChaosPrincess>
I have a mekotronics r58x, but the downside that it comes with android and you will need to bring your own linux. (Use radxa's kernel)
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<delsol>
oof, $400.. still pricy.
<ChaosPrincess>
I just checked the price on apple tv, and apple is subsidizing them hard, at that price point you will only get locked devices that will get their cost recouped via subscriptions, or aliexpress sludge.
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<delsol>
The AppleTV is apple's use of failed A15's
<delsol>
A15's with a bad primary core become an AppleTV
<delsol>
(thats why its 5 cores instead of 6)
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<amarioguy2>
ChaosPrincess: nice work on the backlight stuff
<amarioguy2>
i have to deal with far too many opcodes... (it's still challenging and fun lol, but definitely opcode spaghetti)
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<kit_ty_kate>
has anyone got any issues with a total loss of keyboard and mouse when rebooting their machine after the update?
<kit_ty_kate>
i got the issue twice when rebooting my machine another time after the m1n1 + kernel upgrades, but then it went away for some reason
<kit_ty_kate>
i remember i got the same issues a few months ago, maybe it was also after an upgrade
<kit_ty_kate>
I think i saw a log with SPI and -1 somewhere when it happened (but i can’t reproduce it so i can’t be sure)
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<mkurz>
Are there keyboard shortcuts to adjust keyboard brightness using KDE?
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<nicolas17>
mkurz: are you running the -edge version of the kernel?
<mkurz>
nicolas17: No, just upgraded normal. But I can change keyboard brightness in settings, no problem. Just is there a key to do that?
<mkurz>
Like F6 or something?
<nicolas17>
the wiki says keyboard backlight is only supported in linux-asahi-edge, maybe that's outdated...
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<mkurz>
nicolas17: It's outdated, its working also in stabe kernel now
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<mkurz>
I am just wondering what's the default key combination in KDE or on MacBook to change the brightness?
<jannau>
mkurz: that would be an error on our part
<mkurz>
OK, so that should not be part of the stable kernel?
<mkurz>
Linux mkurz-macbook-pro 6.1.0-rc6-asahi-5-1-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Tue, 22 Nov 2022 17:45:34 +0000 aarch64 GNU/Linux
<jannau>
mkurz: on macbook air and 14/16" macbook pro the standard macos hotkeys on F1/F2 work
<mkurz>
jannau: I am talking about keyboard brightness, not display
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<jannau>
ah
<mkurz>
on macbook pro 14
<mkurz>
just wondering if there is a default shortcut or something
<mkurz>
like I can not see a key for it on the F-keys
<nicolas17>
Plasma doesn't seem to have any default keyboard shortcut other than "keyboard brightness up" (ie. if your keyboard had a dedicated key for that, it would work), but you can configure it in keyboard shortcut settings
<jannau>
I don't think there are standard shortcuts for the keyboard brightness on macbooks
<mkurz>
nicolas17: yes it looks like
<mkurz>
ok
<mkurz>
jannau: There were special keys on F6/F7 for that in the past, but hey changed that
<nicolas17>
jannau: some old Intel macbooks had F-keys for that, but they got repurposed on later models
<mkurz>
nicolas17: yes, that's what I meant ;)
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<nicolas17>
on my lenovo laptop, Fn + Space seems to toggle the backlight without sending any keypress to the OS... I hate it when firmware tries to be too smart like that
<mkurz>
nicolas17: I saw the shortcuts "keyboard brightness up" and "...down" so I was wondering if those are some actual shortcuts already which I am not aware off, but I understand now that is just if your keyboard actually has physical keys
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<mkurz>
nicolas17: I used Lenovo before as well ;)
<nicolas17>
I think it would be *possible* for the keyboard layout to map an F-key (with or without Fn) to "keyboard brightness up", but no I don't think Asahi does that, and that seems correct since there's no key physically marked as such, or working as such on macOS
<mkurz>
Unfortunatly in the KDE settings the F key is not recogniced if I try to assign F+space
<mkurz>
I man Fn
<mkurz>
sorry
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<mkurz>
I mean Fn, sorry typos
<nicolas17>
on my Lenovo laptop, Fn + F12 sends an "increase display brightness" keypress (specifically "XF86MonBrightnessUp"), Plasma doesn't see Fn at all, that's mapped at a previous step already
<nicolas17>
dunno if it's done by the keyboard firmware, the kernel, or X keyboard layout
<mkurz>
nicolas17: ok...
<uallas>
Apple removed hotkeys from the macbooks for keyboard brightness in favour of putting the option in the control center. Im currently on a Macbook Air M1 and tried every single possible combination possible and can confirm i cant find any that exist. The only way i believe to do this would be through KDE keyboard shorcuts, but you say you have already tried this. Another option would be to have two scripts
<uallas>
that change brightness and bind the scripts to a key combination. Dirty, but i used to do that many moons ago in older Linux distros
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<nicolas17>
uallas: changing a keyboard shortcut via KDE settings will work
<nicolas17>
you just can't make meaningful use of Fn, that key is kinda special
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<uallas>
ah gotcha, there is alot of things that are "special" with Apple hardware lol, so it doesnt surprise me. Im still nervous about installing Asahi at the moment but I really hope to soon(..ish) :)
<mkurz>
Thanks anyway! I will install the edge kernel now to see how display brightness works ;) Have nice day!
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<beeblebrox>
i am irrationally excited to have a backlit keyboard again
<beeblebrox>
this is great
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<nicolas17>
the archlinux mirror I get redirected to is so annoyingly slow ._.
<nicolas17>
like 10Mbps when my connection is 300Mbps
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<nicolas17>
maybe the redirection/geoip stuff is what sucks and I should hardcode a better one
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<loop0>
Hey folks, I've tried to update my m1n1 using the installer from macOS and now my asahi won't boot. Device 0: unknown device. Failed to find boot partition `run distro_bootcmd` to boot from any partition
<tpw_rules>
you can skip the step at the end about re-expanding your free space
<loop0>
awesome, thank you so much, I will give it a try
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<nicolas17>
tpw_rules: so they should have booted asahi and updated the distro from there, and *then* updated m1n1 from macOS?
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<loop0>
tpw_rules: it worked! I'm currently typing from asahi on my m1 mbp
<loop0>
thank you
<jannau>
nicolas17: no, the problem is the updated nvme firmware from ventura. u-boot from before june/july is not compatible with ventura. it was even before the m1n1 update unbootable
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<nicolas17>
ah I see
<nicolas17>
"should have updated uboot before macOS" then? :)
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<nicolas17>
hmm setting the keyboard backlight to 0 seems to do nothing
<nicolas17>
25% sets it to 25%, 0% leaves it at 25%, 100% sets it to 100%, 0% leaves it at 100%
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