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<BenTheTechGuy> Has the Asahi project developed a way to select a startup disk from within Linux? I have Linux as my default boot option, but I want to be able to remotely reboot into macOS from Linux, which isn't possible if I have to physically be there to enter 1TR and select the macOS volume.
<nicolas17> last I heard is: no, but it's possible in principle
<chadmed> requires SEP interaction so not at the moment
<nicolas17> oh really? I thought selecting a boot volume only needed to write to nvram
<chadmed> bless2 talks to the SEP aiui
<nicolas17> ok, that's significantly more annoying than I expected
<sven> huh, it would be weird if it required sep interaction
<chadmed> the manpage makes a vague reference to machine owner creds
<nicolas17> what I imagined is that you absolutely need SEP interaction to add an OS to the boot policy, but then you can "simply" write to nvram "by default I want to boot the OS with UUID suchandsuch, which is already authorized in the bootpolicy"
<nicolas17> but that's without having actually looked at any of the details ^^'
<chadmed> that does make sense, i just thought it needed to do SEP stuff or something that we cannot do from linux (just going on my vague recollection of what went on during installer development)
<chadmed> but maybe it was just nvram access
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<chadmed> NOTE: Admin credentials may be prompted when running bless on an Apple silicon platform (beyond running the tool as an admin user). However, if the volume has been previously
<chadmed> blessed by a different OS instance, then these credentials may not be necessary or used to bless the target OS.
<chadmed> this is so vague and stupid
<jannau> BenTheTechGuy: asahi-bless from https://github.com/WhatAmISupposedToPutHere/asahi-nvram works as far as I'm aware
<jannau> 've never tried it though
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<sven> yeah, I’d expect that if the OS is already authorized that a nvram update would be enough
<BenTheTechGuy> jannau: thanks, I'll check it out
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<marcan> yes, just an nvram update
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<ned_> So I have some free time coming up soon and wanted to learn linux kernel development.
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<_tmp_const__> hi! can i see the reason i'm banned in this channel somehow? been lurking here through matrix, noticed i had been disconnected and tried to rejoin the chan to see that i'd been banned. haven't posted anything (for a long time at least) so i'm guessing it's the matrix <-> irc bridging acting up. if there's some other reason i'd be happy to know :)
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<ChaosPrincess> matrix bridge got nuked
<_tmp_const__> that's what i figured, couldn't find any info on it with my search-fu
<_tmp_const__> thanks!
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<_tmp_const__> oftc-wide or this chan only?
<ChaosPrincess> all project-related channels
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<_tmp_const__> makes sense. thank you again :)
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<sequencer> does any one encountered the suddenly reboot without any kernel log during a high load(e.g. compiling llvm or ceb)? I'm using Asahi under NixOS.
<ChaosPrincess> which machine
<sequencer> M1 Air
<ChaosPrincess> try upgrading m1n1 and kernel, iirc some kind of thermal throttling wasnt enabled in older ones.
<sequencer> I'm also using a semiconductor cooler to keep it under 2G(small core) 3.2G(big core) frequency(but I think it's unrelated?)
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<sequencer> I'm usingasahi-v2023.01-3 uboot and 1.2.7 m1n1 for now
<sequencer> kernel version is 6.3
<ChaosPrincess> try m1n1 1.2.9
<sequencer> Got it, let me try after compiling llvm for 20mins this time ;p
<ChaosPrincess> also, can you elaborate on the "semiconductor cooler"?
<ChaosPrincess> i take it you are putting a peltier on it, but where?
<ChaosPrincess> just on the chassis or directly on heatsink?
<sequencer> Yes the peltier on the chassis, but the original heatsink was replaced by thermal grease instead
<ChaosPrincess> wait, what?
<sequencer> https://www.ebay.com/itm/284746723020?hash=item424c3a2ecc:g:nYYAAOSw9w9jYQFg&amdata=enc%3AAQAIAAAA4A4Q6qBcT7buT%2Fmqga2VmYuJYj0bm89dGFoRylgH6Wv80EYuTCDS6qinxW7Vn5oNTJb9ePL%2FaylbSuFsiqRv4n5IGY%2F27zSPc%2Fxl1QX5AhfXCln2HxT2c4Qipc9IWud%2FGKSVSeT2IwADiuE%2F6v9iaZ6%2BnMTERaUbdBnOKLZHdHbKkgiw4qZbXeAKbTUJJbfzaDLCc3Q%2FNrTvSbUTjcI%2FtYy6mMWM676oKhCPC7rRToMwU2PKT%2FyMjvNAbV0tKE3O4I0IC%2FuRHD2An80%2BwDb9i6%2F4oUr%2BNfT%2FL9yTeOE4FDMp%7Ctkp%3ABFBM-ImhsZli&var=586676
<sequencer> some thing like this
<ChaosPrincess> so, is it chip ihs -> apple thermal paste -> apple heatsink -> thick thermal pad -> chassis?
<sequencer> chip ihs -> apple thermal paste -> chassis
<ChaosPrincess> so you completely removed the internal heatsink?
<sequencer> yeah...
<ChaosPrincess> put it back
<sequencer> and CPU is quite cool now?
<ChaosPrincess> your machine is overheating and thermal protection is shutting it down
<ChaosPrincess> if you want the cooling mod, you do it the way i described above
<sequencer> In MacOS, it say the tempture to be 0
<ChaosPrincess> that still looks like a thermal shutdown
<sequencer> I see. let me try
<sequencer> dose lm_sensors work on asahi?
<ChaosPrincess> no
<ChaosPrincess> it is not required, temps are exported as a hwmon device
<sequencer> how can I get the temps? by cat /sys/class/hwmon/xxx?
<ChaosPrincess> oh, i guess lm_sensors supports hwmon
<j`ey_> but there's no hwmon driver for asahi yet I thought?
<ChaosPrincess> there is this
<sequencer> sudo sensors-detect detected nothing ;(
<j`ey_> ChaosPrincess: that's the old t2 smc
<j`ey_> dont think that works
<ChaosPrincess> oh
<ChaosPrincess> yea, welp
<ChaosPrincess> yea, i see it, it does io port stuff, thats intel macs
<j`ey_> jeff wrote a hwmon for m1, but it didn't make it's way into the asahi kernel, maybe someone can pick that up if he's not going to
<sequencer> Is that a kernel module?
<ChaosPrincess> yes
<sequencer> can you send me a link to it?
<ChaosPrincess> looks like its the one
<j`ey_> yeah
<sequencer> I see, I think I need to patch kernel;p
<sequencer> BTW, a unrelated question(I searched around but still have no idea): what's the status of M1 Air external display support over type-c port?
<sequencer> I thought I should be DCP which I saw it's already supported.
<sequencer> in asahi-edge
<sequencer> oh that's DP Alt Mode? I missed... forgot it...
<sequencer> sorry
<ChaosPrincess> status is "ready when its ready and not a minute sooner" :P
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<sequencer> Haha, thanks ;p looking forward to it
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<TheDcoder> ChaosPrincess: Ah, thanks!
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<sven> and every question about the status as usual doubles the ETA :>
* eta considers herself doubled
<tramtryst> ha
<ellyq> prepare for trouble, make it double!
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<ChaosPrincess> damn, and we had such a good run with nobody asking for et​a for quite some time :P
<tramtryst> I just use the wiki progress status page as my morning ETA check
<eta> ChaosPrincess: did you insert a non breaking space or something, since that didn't ping me
<ChaosPrincess> yes, there is a zwnj there exactly to not annoy you
<eta> <3
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<sven> lol :D
<eta> weechat was better at only pinging me if it was the correct case, but irccloud fails
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