marcan changed the topic of #asahi to: Asahi Linux: porting Linux to Apple Silicon macs | "Does XXX work yet?": https://alx.sh/fs | GitHub: https://alx.sh/g | Wiki: https://alx.sh/w | Topics: #asahi-dev #asahi-re #asahi-gpu #asahi-alt #asahi-stream #asahi-offtopic | Keep things on topic | Logs: https://alx.sh/l/asahi
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<TheDcoder> By the way, can I just update my macOS to the latest sonoma without worrying about it breaking my Asahi install?
<j`ey_> TheDcoder: in theory.. but there was some breakage at some point due to system firmware
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<j`ey_> so might be safer to wait for janna_u or markan to try it first
<TheDcoder> j`ey_: can I fix it?
<TheDcoder> oh, they haven't tried it yet?
<j`ey_> well the fix involved linux/u-boot changes
<TheDcoder> Hmmm... okay, so for the time being, I should update my macOS?
<TheDcoder> *shouldn't
<j`ey_> (Im talking about earlier updates, not the 13.0/sonoma one)
<ChaosPrincess> ventura 13.4 confirmed works
<ChaosPrincess> if you want, i can throw sonoma on one of my boxes and report on it
<TheDcoder> wait I thought sonoma was the latest update?!
<ChaosPrincess> its latest
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<TheDcoder> but joey said it was 13.0
<TheDcoder> and 13.4 is ventura
<ChaosPrincess> 13.0 is ventura
<ChaosPrincess> 14.x is sonoma
<TheDcoder> oh ok
<j`ey_> oh my bad, sorry, thought it was 13.x
<TheDcoder> ChaosPrincess: If you can test sonoma that would be great. What device is your box by the way?
<TheDcoder> Mine is the M1 Air
<ChaosPrincess> have a j297 and a j314
<TheDcoder> sorry, I don't know what those are... are they the mac studios or something?
<TheDcoder> or mac mini?
<ChaosPrincess> m1 macbook pro, and a m1pro macbook pro (14inch)
<TheDcoder> ah, okay
<TheDcoder> close enough to m1 air I guess
<j`ey_> did anyone buy the 15" air?
<ChaosPrincess> isnt it basically the 13 air, but 15?
<j`ey_> yep
<j`ey_> afaik
<j`ey_> bigger battery, but i think that's just to compenstate for the screen
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<jannau> the 15" has 6 instead of 4 speakers. the 2 additional ones make the woofers force cancelling
<j`ey_> I kinda dont like the look where there's space on the sides of the keyboard
<j`ey_> looks way nicer if the screen and the keyboard match
<jannau> can't make the keyboard ~10% larger horizontally without changing the layout
<j`ey_> make it like one of those phones that has big buttons
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<dottedmag> keyboard key spacing is pretty standard
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<ChaosPrincess> Put gamer buttons on the sides like logitec does :P
<dottedmag> Or touchbar, that's where it would be useful, not as a replacement for F keys.
<j`ey_> ChaosPrincess: yuck
<ChaosPrincess> TheDcoder: this post was made from an asahi install on a machine with sonoma installed
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<chadmed> oh what theres a 15" air now?
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<chadmed> ohh its new
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<j`ey_> chadmed: yeah last week or something
<tpw_rules> it came out with the vr headset
<chadmed> odd, i didnt see anyone say anything about it at all
<chadmed> i guess the vr headset stole its thunder
<nicolas17> oh
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<nicolas17> speaking of the vr headset, a recovery image for it showed up, if anyone wants to peek into the kernel or the R1 firmware :P
<ChaosPrincess> inb4 completely boring device due to locked bootloader and ios-style security model
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<nicolas17> ChaosPrincess: of *course* it's locked down like iOS :P
<nicolas17> updated /Devices
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<nicolas17> updated /Codenames
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<bcrumb> hey guys, what is the way we update in relation to this https://archlinux.org/news/git-migration-completed/ ? (i'll leave chat but I always check logs and I'll see any reply when it comes)
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