#asahi on 2023-06-22 — irc logs at oftc.irclog.whitequark.org

2023-03-01 05:50 marcan changed the topic of #asahi to: Asahi Linux: porting Linux to Apple Silicon macs | "Does XXX work yet?": https://alx.sh/fs | GitHub: https://alx.sh/g | Wiki: https://alx.sh/w | Topics: #asahi-dev #asahi-re #asahi-gpu #asahi-alt #asahi-stream #asahi-offtopic | Keep things on topic | Logs: https://alx.sh/l/asahi

00:06 <ellyq> Isn't gnome web based on webkit btw?

00:07 <nicolas17> I think so yeah

00:08 <nicolas17> which doesn't imply it will have Safari's performance

00:09 <ellyq> oh, of course

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00:30 <TheDcoder> folks how do I reboot into Linux? I forgot

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00:33 <cylm> on startup of the mac hold the powerup button until the message under the apple logo doesn't change, release and then you come into the boot menu

00:33 <cylm> select asahi and it should boot into it

00:36 <TheDcoder> Thanks

00:36 <TheDcoder> But I'm in even bigger trouble now

00:36 <TheDcoder> I forgot my login :(

00:36 <TheDcoder> How screwed am I?

00:39 <TheDcoder> thank god, I figured it out

00:39 <TheDcoder> but still, what will I have to do to recover my account?

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00:55 <TheDcoder> Oh wait, was grub always there or did I just forget about it?

00:56 <TheDcoder> ...that came out wrong

00:56 <nicolas17> afaik it's iBoot -> U-Boot -> grub -> Linux

00:56 <TheDcoder> Ah, okay

00:56 <TheDcoder> I thought we didn't have grub

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01:36 <TheDcoder> wow, my M1 Air got HOT while playing a round of tux cart

01:36 <TheDcoder> ...was it using software rendering?

01:36 <TheDcoder> I'm running on asahi-edge and I have the mesa package installed

01:43 <tpw_rules> maybe just unlimited fps

01:48 <TheDcoder> oh yeah, I didn't enable vsync

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10:47 <alex__> Hi, is there a way to enable "power on after powercut" on the Mac Mini M1 for sending a machine off to a colo?

10:48 <alex__> These were the old steps for the Intel Macs: https://www.mythic-beasts.com/support/servers/colo/macmini

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11:10 <dottedmag> alex__: That's for -offtopic, I believe. Anyway there is systemsetup -setrestartpowerfailure on, but I don't have mini at hand to see if it works on M1 Minis

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19:59 <alex__> dottedmag is there any way to set that without booting into MacOS?

19:59 <alex__> And would you say there's any other configuration that would be needed for dropping off to a colo?

20:05 <ChaosPrincess> aws uses a high tech poking stick for their mac minis

20:06 <bluetail> ChaosPrincess is that a reference to a priest walking around and blessing the servers in the data center?

20:06 <ChaosPrincess> no, that was russians doing it

20:06 <ChaosPrincess> aws unironically has a actuator with a poking stick to press the power button on their mac minis

20:07 <bluetail> haha :D

20:07 <bluetail> do you have a picture?

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20:07 <bluetail> I know you could enclose them and remotely push a power button with a actuator, but I imagine a really long stick

20:08 <delsol> ChaosPrincess: one stick per mac mini, or robot with attached stick? or stick at end of aisle you just grab and take with you to do manual stick-pokin?

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20:09 <sven> it’s a solenoid attached to the power button

20:10 <sven> there’s a picture floating around but I can’t find it right now

20:10 <ChaosPrincess> yea, i can only find quotes from people who built that

20:10 <ChaosPrincess> https://www.servethehome.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/AWS-EC2-Apple-Mac-Mini-Node-in-Rack.jpg

20:10 <ChaosPrincess> there is this image, but you cant really see the solenoid

20:11 <dottedmag> I wonder why a stick instead of soldering in a proper relay.

20:11 <ChaosPrincess> doesnt damage the chassis

20:11 <dottedmag> uhm, do they care?

20:11 <ChaosPrincess> there are also images of people doing exactly that

20:11 <ellyq> manual work, which would make deployment a lot longer?

20:12 <sven> hmmm… I thought there was an actual picture somewhere but maybe I just imagined that

20:13 <ChaosPrincess> i think we both are conflating together macnl or something racks which have power buttons on the front and use a lever system to push that

20:13 <jannau> there was a picture but I think it was on twitter so it might be gone

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20:19 <nicolas17> dottedmag: soldering a relay would involve more manual work per device deployed

20:20 <jannau> it was https://twitter.com/imbushuo/status/1334280312944123906 which is gone now

20:22 <sven> https://web.archive.org/web/20210929092437/https://twitter.com/imbushuo/status/1334280312944123906

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20:28 <dottedmag> nicolas17: it depends on the reliability of the stick.

20:28 <nicolas17> a lot of what AWS does isn't about being more secure or reliable but about ticking customers' compliance checkboxes, they wouldn't dare void the warranty of the device

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21:14 <bluetail> thanks sven

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22:40 <SinSinati5> hey

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22:45 <SinSinati5> hey

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