<andreasdr[m]>
Even has e build in VEGA and a AMD 6600M as secondary graphics card.
<andreasdr[m]>
Also the price seems very nice.
<andreasdr[m]>
Should run Haiku also :)
<Begasus>
If it works for you ;)
<andreasdr[m]>
Thinking about replacing my main desktop with 16 cores and my MBP with this laptop and maybe a Mac Mini(I sometimes need to use Mac). The main desktop is just such a power supply demanding monster. I guess alone 30€ a month energy costs come from this machine. A laptop has a nice idle mode and should improve this a lot. My main desktop takes around 80W in idle.
<andreasdr[m]>
Under load it likes to take 300W :DDD
<andreasdr[m]>
Thats heavy. Do not know what it takes if both CPU and GPU load.
<andreasdr[m]>
Sorry. :x
<Begasus>
np ;)
<Begasus>
I only the laptops here (got a big tower still from way back, but not connected anymore to anythin) :)
<andreasdr[m]>
Yes. A good laptop is sufficient.
<andreasdr[m]>
And it does not need so much place.
<andreasdr[m]>
I used a MBP only from 2013 until 2017. And unbelievable, but it was working for me.
<andreasdr[m]>
Now a laptop with 8 cores and a decent graphics board is really enough.
<andreasdr[m]>
I have this 16 core machine and its just too good. Hence lots of power demanding with it.
<andreasdr[m]>
But before I had 8 cores machine and it was really OK too for me.
<andreasdr[m]>
So I can say, for me it works to go back to 8 cores.
<Begasus>
hmm 8 cores .. sounds yummi ;)
<andreasdr[m]>
Oh when working on my engine I would not be happy with less cores than 8.
<andreasdr[m]>
So I think 6-8 cores today is really minimum.
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<nephele>
andreasdr: not 16x10 and no amoled, not perfect for me, maybe it is for you :p
<andreasdr[m]>
Ah Ok. What is amoled? I am fine with 16:9.
<nephele>
laptop idle mode won't help that much when running haiku, and haiku won't run on m1 mac mini
<andreasdr[m]>
Yes.
<nephele>
amoled is oled with a specific wiring behind it
<nephele>
mainly marketing name for oled from samsung :P
<andreasdr[m]>
I know. But Haiku is not finished yet. I guess someday Haiku will get that laptop modes too. And meanwhile whenever I wish to use Haiku I can still do with this laptop.
<andreasdr[m]>
Also it will never take like 300W+ under load.
<nephele>
or maybe laptop idle modes are obsolete by the time we reach R1
<andreasdr[m]>
Possible. No idea about this topic so far.
<andreasdr[m]>
Not a big idea at least.
<andreasdr[m]>
I remember that there was a guy years ago that wanted to implement that. But seems like he did not get very far with this.
<andreasdr[m]>
Things will happen.
<nephele>
the m1 lets the cpu and firmware do this based on heuristics in the background :)
<andreasdr[m]>
Still I can use Haiku with this laptop. So I see no stopper here.
<andreasdr[m]>
Ok. Hmm. To me a M1 is a bit too limiting in use for me.
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<Not-a434>
[haikuports/haikuports] Sylvain78 4450afd - Bghostview x86 64 + debug targets for ghostscript_gpl-9.55 (#6756)
<Begasus>
keep an eye on buildmaster Anarchos :)
<Anarchos>
Begasus i couldn't solve the bug i encoutner with ghostscript, but now we will have symbols for a more experienced ghostscript aware developer :)
<Begasus>
I'm lost there Anarchos , I'll leave that to the experts ;)
<Begasus>
before a new PR, update your master, create a new branch, push new branch with revbump
<Begasus>
make sure master is clean with "git status"
<Anarchos>
sure
<Anarchos>
what is a "revbump" ?
<Begasus>
REVISION bump
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<Begasus>
REVISION="2"
<Begasus>
deppending on the number in the recipes bump +1
<kallisti5[m]>
DHowett: no problem :-) it's a little rough needing to import keys, but better than nothing
<Anarchos>
Begasus ok i will do it tonight. but it will be in the same PR, i don't understand why you spoke about a new PR.
<Begasus>
that one is already merged Anarchos
<Anarchos>
Begasus ok, that makes sense.
<Begasus>
don't think you can push to a merged branch :)
<Anarchos>
Begasus i will do another about betex, but i will change the source repo, cause i changed way too many things in betex to let it just work
<Begasus>
does it need the updated files from bghostview?
<Anarchos>
no, betex is independent of ghostwcript and bghostview
<Begasus>
k
<Anarchos>
i mean, i will do another pull request for bghostview and another for betex too, with a big change in the source uri
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<Begasus>
Great Anarchos :)
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<Begasus>
'lo mmu_man
<Begasus>
was looking into pkgconfig (python), recipe is easy, but not sure about mixed architectures on 32bit :(
<Begasus>
builds ok for "any", but not all python recipes are "any"
<mrentropyvcs>
Hello. I'm trying to build something and I'm getting stuck with getifaddrs not being declared. I'm having trouble finding info on it. Is there a header I'm forgetting to include?
<waddlesplash>
it's in ifaddrs.h
<Begasus>
libnetwork?
<waddlesplash>
but it requires _BSD_SOURCE (though this is enabled by default, usually)
<waddlesplash>
note that you need to use -std=gnu99 not -std=c99, e.g. in order to make it work.
<mrentropyvcs>
Ah. Thanks. Let me see what I can do with that.
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<Anarchos>
Begasus for big functional and source changes, what is the procedure to test them before PR ?
<mrentropyvcs>
Thanks! I'm chugging along again.
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<Begasus>
Anarchos, first do the ones for ghostview, those 2 should be easy
<Begasus>
do you have remote setup to haikuports?
<Begasus>
I created an alias in my profile "gmp" meaning "git pull upstream master && git push -f origin master" (always from master (but that should be obvious)) :)
<AbortRetryFail>
waddlesplash: is there a good reference to look at to find those headers and linker flags for ports? I got stuck on one for timelocal a couple days ago with rtl_sdr
<Anarchos>
Begasus i think (i have a snippet of the git remote- set upstream, so i am able to apply it in every git repo where needed)
<waddlesplash>
AbortRetryFail: there isn't, unfortunately
<AbortRetryFail>
Oh well, doesn't hurt to ask.
<waddlesplash>
the only thing really is non POSIX APIs are actually behind feature flags as they should be
<waddlesplash>
Linux is much less strict about this so a lot of things use -std=c99 which enables "posix only" features, but Linux headers ignore that while Haiku headers obey it
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<AbortRetryFail>
I'll do some digging in haikuports and see if my problems are already solved there then.
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<mrentropyvcs>
I stopped chugging :(
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<nekobot2>
[haiku/haiku] a191388ea6b4 - pci: add some pcie extensions labels
<mrentropyvcs>
Ok. Stella 6.6 is working now.
<Begasus>
nice mrentropyvcs
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<mrentropyvcs>
I wish I had even the slightest inkling on how to make it a package. Or a recipe for HaikuPorter.
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<mrentropyvcs>
Crud. Haiku doesn't like my controller :(
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<mrentropyvcs>
How does Haiku determine if something is a game controller?
<Begasus_32>
mmu_man .... grabbing borgbackup_x86_python38-1.2.0-1-x86_gcc2.hpkg and moving it to /Opslag/haikuports/packages/borgbackup_x86_python38-1.2.0-1-x86_gcc2.hpkg :)
<Begasus>
If you like some help on creating recipes theres help here mrentropyvcs
<Begasus>
on the latter ... that's one for the dev's :)
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<mrentropyvcs>
Begasus: I'll have to start by re-re-re-re-re-reading the tutorial so I can remember what questions to ask.
<Begasus>
heh
<mrentropyvcs>
Can I enter a bug for controller support?
<Anarchos>
jmairboeck hello, what are the news on texlive spliting ?
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<jmairboeck>
Anarchos (I assume you'll read the logs later): the pull request was merged, but it is stll disabled because it is not yet clear whether we should really package everything in haikuports or not. I have created a new issue for that discussion (https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/issues/6771) but haven't tested any alternative approach yet
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<BrunoSpr>
hello all
<BrunoSpr>
do we have some native Ukrainan speaking user or developer in here?