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<nekobot2> [haiku/haiku] kallisti5 pushed 2 commits to master [hrev55973] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=7bbfd0ff4956+%5Ea191388ea6b4
<nekobot2> [haiku/haiku] 52f7c9389475 - 3rdparty/pulkomandy: Fix rm on unbootstrap script
<nekobot2> [haiku/haiku] 7bbfd0ff4956 - 3rdparty/docker/bootstrap: Cleanup, little modernization
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<win8linux[m]> BetterSpades repo:
<win8linux[m]> Currently seeing these errors while attempting to port BetterSpades:
<win8linux[m]> CGLM isn't among the libs and projects listed as deps in the README, so this was a surprise.
<win8linux[m]> I'll try and see if including the Haiku glm package will fix it, if CMake will skip downloading it directly and use that instead.
<win8linux[m]> Nope, still happens.
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<Not-a434> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/4450afddb8e0...f96b3b1a3fbb
<Not-a434> [haikuports/haikuports] LordOfDragons f96b3b1 - dragengine-1.11 build fixes (#6786)
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<Begasus> g'morning peeps
<johnny_b> morning
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<Begasus> g'morning johnny_b
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<Not-a434> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-0/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/f96b3b1a3fbb...8b370150e90f
<Not-a434> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus 8b37015 - pkgconfig, new python recipe (#6783)
<nekobot2> [haiku/haiku] pulkomandy pushed 2 commits to master [hrev55974] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=d039f12b315b+%5E7bbfd0ff4956
<nekobot2> [haiku/haiku] 467b19de2848 - intel_extreme: setup Gen11 interrupts
<nekobot2> [haiku/haiku] d039f12b315b - intel_extreme: add PCI ID for Tiger Lake
<nekobot2> [haiku/haiku] pulkomandy pushed 1 commit to master [hrev55975] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=a3ef09d41eb7+%5Ed039f12b315b
<nekobot2> [haiku/haiku] a3ef09d41eb7 - boot/efi/arm: implement PL2 to PL1 transition
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<nekobot2> [haiku/haiku] 7fdf6e8639e5 - boot/efi/arm: switch serial output to legacy after exiting EFI boot servieces
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<nekobot2> [haiku/haiku] d232643ed8cb - boot/efi/arm: add debug logs for initial CPU state
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<nekobot2> [haiku/haiku] c5d3ca339cb0 - runtime_loader: ignore PT_ARM_UNWIND sections
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<Begasus> one of the undefined references when testing xxhash ... __ubsan_handle_add_overflow_abort
<Begasus> can't seem to find how to solve (this was solved with the prior version), maybe some gcc thing?
<Begasus> -fsanitize=undefined already there (so is -fno-sanitize-recover=all)
<Begasus> err ... going nuts here, now it worked?
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<julicenri> Begasus: Good morning to you
<Begasus> g'afternoon julicenri :)
<win8linux[m]> Started working again on that earlier program that needed libdeflate, but ran into compilation errors.
<Begasus> nice :P
<Begasus> knocking myself out trying to figure out the xxhash test thing
<Begasus> think it could be narrowed down to clang (testing)
<Begasus> what errors did you get?
<Begasus> had been checking latest source for borg that's using libdeflate too, seems ok here
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<Begasus> k, clang9 -> can't find -lubsan (that I can fix), clang12 -> lots of undefined references to ubsan
<Begasus> aghhh :(
<win8linux[m]> > <@win8linux:kde.org> Currently seeing these errors while attempting to port BetterSpades:
<win8linux[m]> Begasus: These are the errors.
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<Begasus> that's a way to keep people away from trying to create issues ... The AUR package is unofficial and I have no idea who created it. Please do not use it.
<win8linux[m]> Hmm, now I want to send a PR to change it.
<win8linux[m]> However, it might get rejected especailly if I mention it's for Haiku support.
<Begasus> my point :)
<Begasus> it's also a dependency, maybe you could write a recipe for that (cglm) :)
<win8linux[m]> It exists already (glm).
<win8linux[m]> But CMake will always download the dep itself.
<win8linux[m]> Already tried including it in the dep list.
<Begasus> not sure if it's the same as glm? https://github.com/recp/cglm
<Begasus> repology doesn't mention haikuports in there: https://repology.org/project/cglm/versions
<win8linux[m]> They're the same.
<win8linux[m]> OpenGL Mathematics Library
<win8linux[m]> Maybe I should try using the latest Git rev instead of a release.
<Begasus> our glm is header only (no libs in there), cglm has libcglm
<win8linux[m]> Oh, hmm.
<Begasus> looking at the source I see no way to override system library use, so it probably will download from github anyway :/
<Begasus> now the tests are ok with clang12 (guess that fix should be incorparated before the actual build) (xxhash)
<win8linux[m]> Using the latest Git rev, cglm does build successfully.
<Begasus> ok :)
<Begasus> got the same for xxhash, latest release fails to build, git rev builds ok
<win8linux[m]> However, a new error in network.c fails the build:
<win8linux[m]> Will look into that after dinner.
<Begasus> maybe needs some Haiku support?
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<win8linux[m]> Changing 'os' to 'cos' in lines 853 and 854 within network.c gets it compiling successfully.
<Begasus> nice! no errors anymore on xxhash (some failed tests but no errors) :D yay!
<win8linux[m]> It fails now at linking the main client binary:
<Begasus> needs libnetwork :)
<win8linux[m]> bruh
<Begasus> in the recipe before the build starts something like: export LIBS="-lnetwork"
<win8linux[m]> Really?
<win8linux[m]> The same errors still occur.
<win8linux[m]> Starting to wonder if the earlier 'cos' fixes broke something else.
<Begasus> maybe it doesn't take that export
<Begasus> win8linux[m], before I start taking on to a port/recipe I check if the source build in Terminal (without a recipe), if that works I start on writing the recipe for it
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<phschafft> win8linux[m]: I think your 'fix' will break things.
<phschafft> strcpy() is a function to copy strings (as the name suggests) and cos is a function. it's strange that after changing that the compiler did not complain again because of the invalid type.
<phschafft> I maybe have missed it, but is there a link to said network.c?
<win8linux[m]> <phschafft> "win8linux: I think your 'fix..." <- I did suspect the possibility, but tried it anyways since the 'cos' fixes were suggested by the compiler.
<Begasus> don't always trust the compiler ;)
<win8linux[m]> Heh, maybe only with rustc. :P
<win8linux[m]> Got curious about Rust lately and was told to completely trust the compiler.
<phschafft> ah it is what I thought, a number of #ifdefs ;)
<phschafft> a better fix, yet not a perfect one would be something like:
<phschafft> strcpy(ver.operatingsystem, "BetterSpades (Haiku) " GIT_COMMIT_HASH);
<win8linux[m]> Eek, that doesn't seem upstreamable.
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<win8linux[m]> But I might give it a shot in a fork.
<Begasus> win8linux[m], if it works just put it in a patchset, no need to fork
<Begasus> I guess they won't merge someting "unsupported" ;)
<phschafft> they have constants OS_* which I guess will be defined by their build system somehow.
<win8linux[m]> How do I do that?
<phschafft> so wherever they come from, that is the place to start with a proper fix.
<phschafft> but that would require to dig a bit more into whatever project that is.
<Not-a434> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+2/-2/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/8b370150e90f...a8206049cd6e
<Not-a434> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus a820604 - xxhash, bump version (#6787)
<Begasus> there ;)
<Begasus> buildmaster ok too :)
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<woffs> iw2200 is almost unusable at 32bit in beta3. Is there any hope? Secret tweaks?
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<Begasus> I think I'm a superuser omnicron (probably all infected in the house)
<Begasus> no one real sick though, and I get another 3 days vacation ;)
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<nekobot2> [haiku/haiku] korli pushed 1 commit to master [hrev55979] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=4e37ed5c0e6c+%5Ec5d3ca339cb0
<nekobot2> [haiku/haiku] 4e37ed5c0e6c - usb_hid: digitizer usage constants from 1.3 specification
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<nekobot2> [haiku/haiku] korli pushed 1 commit to master [hrev55980] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=f6e2256327e6+%5E4e37ed5c0e6c
<nekobot2> [haiku/haiku] f6e2256327e6 - HaikuDepot: Send Repository Code on API
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<openbsdbeta> hello!
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<Not-a434> [haiku/website] pulkomandy pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/haiku/website/compare/1c3e82a1b4eb...0e82b44a4e2a
<Not-a434> [haiku/website] pulkomandy 0e82b44 - Add JDLL 2022 conference
<PulkoMandy> hello!
<openbsdbeta> how are you pulko?
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<mmu_man> plop
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<Not-a434> [haiku/website] pulkomandy pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-0/±0] https://github.com/haiku/website/compare/0e82b44a4e2a...4230df17d3a1
<Not-a434> [haiku/website] pulkomandy 4230df1 - Really add 2022 edition of JDLL
<Not-a434> [haikuports/haikuports] korli pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-1/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/a8206049cd6e...8327cb6fcd1a
<Not-a434> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus 8327cb6 - cffi, bump version (#6782)
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<Begasus> heading down, cu peeps!
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<Vidrep_64> Hi PulkoMandy
<Vidrep_64> I saw on your Twitter feed that you bought a new laptop for Haiku. How's it working?
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<AlienSoldier> "new" for laptop is never a good investment
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<PulkoMandy> well, I have ethernet and screen brightness settings, native resolution and sound
<PulkoMandy> I don't have wifi, touchpad, and trackpoint yet
<PulkoMandy> I know more or less what to do for the touchpad
<Vidrep_64> Having the skillset to fix your own issues is always handy :)
<PulkoMandy> the ethernet was waddlesplash's work (and FreeBSD's). So having the direct support line of other Haiku developers is also nice :)
<AlienSoldier> saw a dell laptop ad on tv yesterday, i was not expecting seeing a computer ad again on tv for the ret of my life
<AlienSoldier> *rest
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<extrowerk> the heck is going on with the github release tarball urls?
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<Anarchos> extrowerk yes i had troubles with betex : i had to do 'betex-betex-v.1.0.0'
<Anarchos> in my recipe
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<Anarchos> salut mmu_man
<extrowerk> this could help to the users who have problems with mail daemon: http://0x0.st/oq9N.png
<extrowerk> but the real solution would be to give some love to maildaemon
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<Anarchos> PulkoMandy do you think this commit 4e37ed5c0e6c8402b9967451b89b380bc0397a39 will solve my eturbotouch touchpad to be detected ?
<Anarchos> extrowerk i don't understand : your screenshot doesn't mention a solution to a mail daemon problem, but a gtk application named clawsmail ??
<AbortRetryFail> extrowerk: huh neat, I didn't know Haiku could do scaling like that. The native apps and window decor look like they handle it better than claws-mail :)
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<Anarchos> hello jmairboeck
<extrowerk> Anarchos: it is just a gtk based email client. there are some folks who can1t use maildaemon because some troubles with their email server or something similar. for them claws can be a bridgegap solution.
<extrowerk> AbortRetryFail: no idea what you meant with scaling
<extrowerk> you mean the whitespaces in the claws window? No, it just simply doesn't found the application resources (like icons). So it just doesn't shows any icons
<AbortRetryFail> the UI scales up
<AbortRetryFail> I'm used to using it on a tiny 800x480 display so it's not something I've played with.
<Anarchos> extrowerk i have Mail configured with my outlook.live.com account, but i must admit that my outlook folders lay in /boot/home/mail AND in /boot/home/mail/in, which is disturbing
<extrowerk> Anarchos: yep, mail daemon is somehow like to use more than one folder for some kind of reason.
<extrowerk> multiple accounts can be a trouble with MD
<Anarchos> extrowerk the /boot/home/mail folders are empty, but i fear to lost all my emails if i delete them...
<Anarchos> extrowerk i only have one account configured in Mail
* Anarchos test
* Anarchos will tackle src/system/kernel/elf.cpp:1265:33: warning: taking address of packed member of 'preloaded_elf64_image' may result in an unaligned pointer value [-Waddress-of-packed-member]
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* Anarchos notices that Deskbar autoraise doesn't work anymore
<phschafft> Is there a emulation for the OPT key?
<phschafft> also is there any (API) documentation on the filesystem (features)?
<extrowerk> phschafft: maybe the practical file-system design document
<extrowerk> phschafft: look for the "Practical File System Design - Dominic Giampaolo" book
<phschafft> oh, I was more thinking about a standard developer perspective. like I know the POSIX API, but would like to know the diff for Haiku.
<extrowerk> i won't be able to give you any pointer, please wait for somebody else.
<Anarchos> phschafft for the OPT key i don't know , but you can change the modifers via Keymap > File > set the modifier keys
<Anarchos> phschafft «Practical file system design» goes pretty deep in all the details of BFS
* phschafft nods slowly.
<phschafft> the OPT key hint worked. thank you for that.
<Anarchos> phschafft i am glad to know, i never changed the modifier keys myself, i was too afraid to brake something working :)
<phschafft> this is a read-only VM with me playing around. so actually not unhappy if I learn something by breaking things. :)
<extrowerk> Claws email client now with 100% more icons: http://0x0.st/oq99.png
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<Anarchos> extrowerk be aware that an increase of 100% means you double the count :)
<Anarchos> phschafft great , then go on exploring the dark sides of haiku :)
<phschafft> with ;)
<Anarchos> phschafft with ?
<phschafft> hu.
<waddlesplash> Anarchos: that warning you pasted is not really worth fixing
<phschafft> I have _no_ idea where that line came from.
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<Anarchos> waddlesplash indeed...
<Anarchos> waddlesplash i want to play with PXE boot, but i can't understand relationship between the TFTP server on my ubuntu server, and the remote_disk_server of haiku ?
<waddlesplash> I don't know almost anything about PXE, either
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<Anarchos> waddlesplash i can't remember who talked to me about it
<Anarchos> waddlesplash and this page https://www.haiku-os.org/guides/network_booting/ is not very helpful
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<extrowerk> claws works with my mail server: http://0x0.st/oq9y.png (But MailDaemon works too with this server)
<Anarchos> waddlesplash ingo weinhold wrote the remote disk server
<nekobot2> [haiku/haiku] waddlesplash pushed 1 commit to master [hrev55981] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=52a7b62f6111+%5Ef6e2256327e6
<nekobot2> [haiku/haiku] 52a7b62f6111 - runtime_loader: disable importing its own symbols
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<Not-a434> [haiku/infrastructure] kallisti5 pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-0/±0] https://github.com/haiku/infrastructure/compare/2ea4698c3d87...73562edf0d36
<Not-a434> [haiku/infrastructure] kallisti5 73562ed - concourse: Add early bootstrap pipeline, improve docs, add diagram
<kallisti5[m]> wait why did I use that message?
<kallisti5[m]> ugh.
<Not-a434> [haiku/infrastructure] kallisti5 pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-0/±0] https://github.com/haiku/infrastructure/compare/73562edf0d36...47a0e21e7e74
<Not-a434> [haiku/infrastructure] kallisti5 47a0e21 - concourse: Add initial deployment
<mmu_man> damn stupid UEFI doesn't want to use the default BOOTX64.EFI
<Not-a434> [haiku/infrastructure] kallisti5 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] https://github.com/haiku/infrastructure/compare/47a0e21e7e74...e56efc7f6cf5
<Not-a434> [haiku/infrastructure] kallisti5 e56efc7 - concourse: Add tcp air traffic control port to traefik
<Anarchos> i need to transfer files from haiku to an ubuntu machine, what is my best option ? ftp (with a gui ?) ?
<waddlesplash> sftp?
<waddlesplash> ssh access is usually most consistent
<Anarchos> waddlesplash i would prefer a drag n drop solution :)
<phschafft> (Thanks everyone for the help. ran into missing libs so will now call it a day. Good night! :)
<Anarchos> phschafft good night
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* Anarchos notices that MusicCollection doesn't compile anymore
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<nekobot2> [haiku/haiku] waddlesplash pushed 1 commit to master [hrev55982] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=c42ce973ebfd+%5E52a7b62f6111
<nekobot2> [haiku/haiku] c42ce973ebfd - profile: Track unknown image hits in Inclusive mode.
<AbortRetryFail> Anarchos: FileZilla will do drag-n-drop sftp
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<extrowerk> Anarchos: dukto
<extrowerk> you can find it in the depot
<Anarchos> jam -q haiku-image --> (.text+0x1000): undefined reference to `__divmoddi4'
<Anarchos> extrowerk is dukto a native app ?
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<mmu_man> ok, writembr+makebootable
<mmu_man> f*** UEFI
<mmu_man> 1h wasted because this crappy firmware probably refuses to load unsigned files
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<AbortRetryFail> lol, I just tried dukto and the disclaimer page goes off the bottom of my screen :)
<Anarchos> mmu_man isn't it the purpose of uefi ? is the process to sign files difficult ?
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<x512[m]> It is possible to turn off UEFI signature checking.
<mmu_man> not on every machine it seems
<x512[m]> Just don't buy such machines. It is vendor problem, not UEFI.
<x512[m]> In theory BIOS MBR boot can be also locked.
<mmu_man> well writembr made it work
<Anarchos> i have trouble with jam -q haiku-image : ld: generated/objects/haiku/x86_64/release/system/boot/platform/bios_ia32/bios_ia32/boot_platform_bios_ia32.o: in function `BIOSDrive::WriteAt(void*, long long, void const*, unsigned long)': (.text+0x1000): undefined reference to `__divmoddi4'
<mmu_man> stupid thing insists on loading only signed efi binaries but allows running MBR
<mmu_man> go figure
<waddlesplash> Anarchos: rerun configure.
<waddlesplash> Anarchos: just ./configure --update should suffice
<Anarchos> what did i miss ?
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<Anarchos> waddlesplash still same error
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<nekobot2> [haiku/haiku] 830f67ef9914 - cppunit: Whitespace cleanup, no functional change.
<nekobot2> [haiku/haiku] waddlesplash pushed 2 commits to master [hrev55983] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=dcaf47fd7f84+%5Ec42ce973ebfd
<nekobot2> [haiku/haiku] dcaf47fd7f84 - cppunit: Enable CPPUNIT_HAVE_SSTREAM for the non-legacy GCC.
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