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<mmu_man> Ohhh, enough to make a sound theme for my Haiku desktop theme I never finished :D https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADYvlHONTh4
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<nekobot2> [haiku/haiku] korli pushed 1 commit to master [hrev55929] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=1e174254d62c+%5E62dbe4d6c951
<nekobot2> [haiku/haiku] 1e174254d62c - Media replicant: fix menu label "Sounds preferences"
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<Vitto> test
<phschafft> pong.
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<mmu_man> who's waddlesplah? :D
<mmu_man> cf. report
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<Not-85dd> [haikuports/haikuports] korli pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-1/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/8d84be5601a5...934f12b2d6da
<Not-85dd> [haikuports/haikuports] Freaxed 934f12b - fluidlite: bump to latest github version (#6683)
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<Not-85dd> [haikuports/haikuports] korli pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/934f12b2d6da...dcdbe7ac45fc
<Not-85dd> [haikuports/haikuports] korli dcdbe7a - fluidlite: fix typo
<Not-85dd> [haikuports/haikuports] korli pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-0/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/dcdbe7ac45fc...b580f2a5a0ae
<Not-85dd> [haikuports/haikuports] hoanga b580f2a - hoedown: new recipe (#6659)
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<bbjimmy> https://cgit.haiku-os.org/haiku/commit/?id=1e174254d62c2416e22aa6fc8b31997c08a9dd5a should say "Sounds" or "Sound Preferemces", "Sounds Preferences" is not corect.
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<AlienSoldier> anyone able to buy anything with paypal in haiku?
<AlienSoldier> been a while i used this for payment and it seem to no longer work
<AlienSoldier> it goes as far as confirming my adress and all, press what i think is the final confirmation, then a message say sometimg got wrong and to retry.
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<AlienSoldier> web+ is an absolute no go
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<rennj> heh i got sites barely work with firefox/chrome unless updated..let alone web+
<nielx[m]> this is so interesting to me. It is not as if the web standard is changing every two weeks
<nielx[m]> as if everybody is building their web apps around the quirks in the latest version of webkit
<rennj> looks like we are head to the monopoly ville..if chrome is only game in town
<rennj> least firefox97 works better than firefox94...
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<AlienSoldier> "Things don’t appear to be working at the moment. Please try again."
<AlienSoldier> that is the farthest i can go.
<AlienSoldier> guess i will retry to buy it next month. Haiku is really saving me money (well perhaps not so much while in an inflation spiral)
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<AlienSoldier> and now QMPlay2 divx video is broken just like it was for mediaplayer. i guess they use the same ffmepg now?
<AlienSoldier> was fine before, just updated today
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<AlienSoldier> video is fine in VLC still
<AlienSoldier> and now it work in qmplay2 but not as good as before the update
<AlienSoldier> weird
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<AlienSoldier> ok, it is related to resizing the video, in full screen it skip frame like mad, vlc still have similar problem . Mediaplayer is correct in full screen
<AlienSoldier> yup, QMPlay2 unusable now
<AlienSoldier> and mediaplayer is unusuable for subtitles
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<AlienSoldier> M3dEyes[m] you maintain QMPlay2?
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<AlienSoldier> it should be reverted to previous version. Issue playing full screen and the seek position is unstable for certain video.
<AlienSoldier> sound is fine in full screen, video is skipping quite a lot
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<rennj> what about the browsers wars! m$ explorer vs firefox vs chrome vs safari! ...one ring to bind them and in the darkness find them...chrome!
<rennj> you will be assimilated! the borg
<phschafft> I thight edge is now chrome based?
<rennj> its all chrome
<rennj> firefox/gecko will be lucky to have in a year
<phschafft> and to be honest, Safari is not a browser. it's the lack of a good browser. ;)
<rennj> as for khtml/webkit ..meh
<rennj> listen i been anti m$/crapple since the early 80's
<rennj> unix was the superior model
<rennj> cooperative multitasking harhar
<rennj> primitive os's
<rennj> not multiuser, yeah a joke
<rennj> multiuser,multitasking os...who had it...
<rennj> amiga got the multitasking right at least in 1985
<rennj> sh awk grep sed dc/bc find ...hmm thats good tech
<phschafft> my BIOS (Compaq) had multi tasking in the 90s ;)
<rennj> dd vs xcopy or x-copu
<rennj> dd vs xcopy or x-copy
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<rennj> x-copy being the amiga warez ripper software
<rennj> your compaq was hackery!
<rennj> reverse engineered the ibm bios
<rennj> if most computing is being done by people on their idiot phones..well it says it all
<rennj> android/ios swell choice there...
<rennj> all ruined for "ads"
<rennj> the ad network dominate..radio,tv,internet!
<rennj> i did it all for the ad/revenue! the mantra
* phschafft then removes rennj from his list of possible future clients.
<rennj> hmm consume!
<rennj> consume human
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<AlienSoldier> i could live well with a browser that have rendering issue, as long as it does not hang for 10 sec for no reason and is able to complete and submit a form to completion.
<rennj> yeah dillo,midori,lynx,links user
<rennj> web rendering proxy i got chrome headless mode generates clickable png image for old nextstep,beos,amiga browsers
<rennj> nextstep,beos,amiga,solaris...yeah proxy all the web rendering to png.
<rennj> you cant function in this society without certain software period
<rennj> or you can, but life gets harder, the more techno-refuse-nick you get
<AlienSoldier> i am at the border of not being able to function as a citizen
<AlienSoldier> if they remove me my landline i would be toasted.
<AlienSoldier> calling someone on the phone is my ultimate help line
<rennj> people still answer the phone!
<AlienSoldier> secret to it's sucess: it never changed since i was born.
<AlienSoldier> well, they answer it more than they read their email :)
<AlienSoldier> my average friend check their email one a week.
<AlienSoldier> *once
<rennj> agreed upon standards for communication or protocol
<rennj> most of people i knew, have been stupefied by the tech
<rennj> wonder if they regret the fakebook account yet
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<rennj> people who use to have good phone edict have lost it also
<AlienSoldier> imagine if the power company would start to fiddel with the voltage or the phase or the frequency, starting to include all kind of modulated power stream requireing you to change your electricity entry box every 2 month, well that is the telecom and software industry.
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<rennj> madness you speak of
<rennj> its a mad mad mad mad world
<rennj> what is awesome is the duopolies that seem to form
<rennj> monopoly and duopolies
<rennj> my 8 year old android 3G phone nothing wrong with..but im forced to retire it
<rennj> landfill, mother nature can take the hit
<rennj> att 3G shutdown, verizon and tmobile soon to follow
<rennj> need to recover the spectrum back for more use
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<AlienSoldier> well i am not the biggest landfill contributor, other than food and gas i think i bought nothing for the last 3 years when i think of it.
<rennj> im pissed about the phone
<rennj> i bought $30.00 flip phone to replace the android touchscreen phone
<rennj> go backwards in tech
<rennj> removable battery at least...
<rennj> kalios or something
<rennj> java phone seems like
<rennj> 30.00 a month of unlimited txt/talk, 5GB of data..
<rennj> 25.00 per month if you pay for whole year at once
<rennj> which i could do, but i doubt ill keep this flip-phone for long
<AlienSoldier> i still have a northen telecom desk phone. I can't stand those cellular phone, flip or not.
<AlienSoldier> and when i am not home, magic! nobody is bothering me.
<AlienSoldier> as if ever anybody called me for anything else than asking me a favor anyway.
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<rennj> thats the kicker, cellular is like going back to walkie talkies
<rennj> vs landline, where people can actually talk
<rennj> or in 2007 people paying $1000.00+ for phone plan
<rennj> fucking crapple
<rennj> samsung and crapple can pound sand
<AlienSoldier> and you know another truth everyone still refuse, a crank drill is way supperior to a power drill
<rennj> power drill on drained battery anyway
<rennj> lithium ion batteries vs gas
<AlienSoldier> bit last longer and it does a cleaner job, and lot less noise and is always ready to use.
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<rennj> grind my coffee bean in hand grinder vs machine...you arent going to convert the lazy ass masses..
<rennj> its all about convenience
<rennj> single no wife,kids,pets or debts vs my married friends with kids and pets...not even on the same scale of consumption
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* phschafft has both kinds of drills... and he is happy to have a nice power tool when working with thick metal sheets. ;)
<AlienSoldier> yes for tick ones, but then i use my electric drill press.
<AlienSoldier> but i guess i could fit a crank on that one also as it is demultiplied by the belt.
<AlienSoldier> could even operate it with my foot
<phschafft> if you try to get thru 22mm of hardened steel to build something for your pets... you are happy with a power tool. ;)
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<AlienSoldier> but i use metal as the last hope, i mainly use wood.
<phschafft> there are laws ;)
<AlienSoldier> probably :)
<phschafft> sometimes it's not up to you.
<phschafft> wood is surely a nice material.
<phschafft> in my city home we have a lot of wooden stuff.
<phschafft> and I think the only non-wooden big object in my room is my 19" rack.
<rennj> heh rack at home
<rennj> a little client / server
<phschafft> actually, hardly.
<rennj> you need a whole 72" rack.
<phschafft> power supply, light control, audio/PA, ...
<rennj> yeah yeah heard it all before...
<rennj> the flood light and camera system wont run itself
<rennj> what about the pool!
<rennj> got to have heater and pumps on circuit
<rennj> will need a camera for the pool!
<phschafft> while I work with media, I'm not in the porno industry.
<rennj> people that can afford the pool, can afford the rack and camera gear...
<rennj> and the flood lights...got to show off for the neighbors...swimming in the dark!
<rennj> how are you going to show off to the people, that life is going swimmingly
<rennj> my new tesla says it all!
<rennj> speaks about the kind of consumer i am.
<AlienSoldier> i wish i could apply the EV government incentive on a Citroen Ami and basicly have the car for free.
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<AlienSoldier> what i may be doing is to finally finish my atv to electric conversion and run it in the street even if illegal. It would still be more legal than to polute.
<AlienSoldier> i would even bow and have a helmet :P
<kallisti5[m]> I'm on my third EV. Would never go back to gas
<AlienSoldier> when i check the spec of most midrange EV, they motor and battery would work in most current gas car.
<rennj> its all about the range in the end
<rennj> cold weather vs hot weather
<AlienSoldier> EV used to need to be light, now they weight already as much as tractors
<rennj> if your daily commute is doable
<AlienSoldier> yes, in my case it is doable
<AlienSoldier> and the longest i do is 100KM and i would not mind having to charge in the middle as i don't do that travel every day
<rennj> well i use to have 2hours+ of driving per day for daily commute...
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<rennj> i suppose an EV could handle that short less than 200mile drive
<rennj> but i would have to keep it charged/top upped like some idiot
<rennj> the infrastructure isnt in place yet
<rennj> nothing like wasting 2hour per day in traffic!
<rennj> the life suckage
<rennj> my 24year old volvo can handle couple more years
<AlienSoldier> i no longer have to suffer this, but i did long ago
<rennj> 24 year old volvo, 22 year old bicycle, 8 year old phone, 6 year old laptop...see where im going
<rennj> my bicycle was top end trek mtb you could buy in 2000
<rennj> trek 8500.. $2000 in the year 2000
<AlienSoldier> ... like an average of a 17 year old wife :P
<rennj> now it would cost like $4000.00 for same model
<rennj> i always wanted to live in bicycle friendly commuter town
<rennj> college towns seem to be the mark
<rennj> fort collins colorado was damn close...
<AlienSoldier> mine was a 3000$ bike. around 23year also. Next one will not have any suspension that said.
<rennj> do everything from bicycle would be the dream
<rennj> i got front fork shock is all, no rear ...hardtail they call it
<rennj> no disk brakes
<rennj> v brakes
<AlienSoldier> i wish i had my old bmx back
<rennj> i had trek 7000 for over decade
<AlienSoldier> i gace it way back then... stupid me
<AlienSoldier> *gave
<AlienSoldier> *away
<rennj> trek is generic enough, but of good enough quality for me
<rennj> raleigh i had in the 70's would be money
<rennj> uk tubing
<rennj> renolds tubing!
<AlienSoldier> i no longer car for gear shifter anymore. I prefer to take my time when riding.
<rennj> i had electric motor and gas motor on bicycles
<rennj> my bionX electric motor was 2004
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<rennj> electric was nice...
<rennj> 14miles/hour no sweat
<rennj> almost same as without motor..minus the workout
<rennj> 10/12miles per hour...
<AlienSoldier> yes, sweat is the problem. In fall or winter that is no longer my problem
<rennj> ebike rock for that
<AlienSoldier> in winter i am happy to burn calories
<rennj> problem is they dont last
<rennj> less 10,000 miles
<rennj> i burnt out the motor brushing on 1 side
<rennj> brushless motor mind you
<rennj> but it was 1 side..stator or whatever got fried
<rennj> i could hear it grinding the day, i knew i toasted the wheel hub
<rennj> i got maybe 4000miles out of it
<rennj> certainly not 10k
<AlienSoldier> lot (most) of those motor are made in China
<rennj> bionX was canada company
<rennj> a123 battery was company also
<rennj> the battery tech was the big deal
<rennj> lipo4 or something
<rennj> the anode and cathode
<rennj> made of specific material
<Not-85dd> [haiku/infrastructure] kallisti5 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] https://github.com/haiku/infrastructure/compare/6384b879de9d...99b60ff09d61
<Not-85dd> [haiku/infrastructure] kallisti5 99b60ff - deployments/i18n: Various fixes and cleanup
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