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<erysdren> if i copied all the *files* from a Haiku live installation to a different partition (since i can't seem to extend the one on the USB) would Haiku be okay?
<erysdren> or does it need some things that aren't in a file
<erysdren> i assume everything Haiku does is stored in files, a-la unix
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<SamuraiCrow[m]> <erysdren> "i assume everything Haiku does..." <- Don't assume that. Linux and Haiku kernels are totally different.
<SamuraiCrow[m]> Though Haiku has a POSIX compatibility layer, it's still BeOS based underneath.
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<erysdren> SamuraiCrow[m] good point. i was just wondering if i could copy my install to another drive partition without using a proper copy utilitiy
<augiedoggie> the installer also creates BFS indexes
<augiedoggie> copying wouldn't create the indexes on the destination
<SamuraiCrow[m]> It has to be formetted BeFS.
<erysdren> got it, thanks
<erysdren> i was just confused because i couldn't expand the partition that Haiku lives in from my linux machine for some reason
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<erysdren> howdy
<OscarL> erysdren: workaround.... boot the Haiku ISO on a VM, let said VM access your pendrive. Reparition/format said pendrive from inside Haiku. Run installer, install to the newly created, bigger, parition on said pendrive. Presto.
<OscarL> That's something I did when I only had one pendrive. If you have two... you can avoid the VM, of course :-D
<erysdren> thanks for the tip
<erysdren> i might just wipe the install anyway, i haven't used it for very long. i've only installed a few packages
<erysdren> i just need a bigger amount of space on it
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<B2IA> (UnrealNeil) butler catsup 10
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<erysdren> im very confused right now
<erysdren> i compiled the haiku cross compilers on my arch linux machine
<erysdren> now trying to integrate into my cmake pipeline
<erysdren> i just keep getting "crti.o: No such file: No such file or directory"
<erysdren> if i invoke the compiler directly from the terminal, it can't find the std headers
<OscarL> isn't there a difference bewteen buildtools's cross compilers (meant to build Haiku) and some other cross-compiler for more general use? (I might be confusing / misremembering things, so... take that with 3 buckets of salt).
<erysdren> i was just following what i found on this page, which i thought was for cross-compilers
<erysdren> maybe i'm wrong though
<erysdren> ../configure --cross-tools-source ../../buildtools --build-cross-tools x86_64
<OscarL> erysdren: I'm not the right person to ask, reallly :-D (only use GCC inside Haiku). Just commenting what I half-remember from some IRC logs. But no real understanding of the issue. Sorry.
<erysdren> thanks for the link, though, i think that's what i need
<erysdren> i'll try it
<erysdren> jessicah: any input?
<jessicah> Yes, cross tools compiled for building haiku itself isn't configured for general cross compiling
<jessicah> You'd need to extract needed packages and specify an explicit sysroot, which also won't work for gcc2 if that's needed
<erysdren> gotcha
<jessicah> Mine sets up the sysroot explicitly and also provides a couple scripts after building to download and unpack package files
<jessicah> I've used for cross compiling stuff like rust and ghc in the past
<erysdren> script broke
<erysdren> RPC failed
<jessicah> I used it a couple of days ago
<jessicah> Might be a temporary error
<erysdren> oh i see
<erysdren> well, i don't know why RPC failed but i spotted another bug
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<erysdren> ah i see, it's failing on the review step i think
<erysdren> oh i see
<erysdren> this is 404 now
<OscarL> try with https://review.haiku-os.org/ ?
<erysdren> nope
<OscarL> mmm, "origin https://review.haiku-os.org/haiku (fetch)" << from my git clone.
<OscarL> and pulling from there works, so... maybe a network issue on your end?
<erysdren> hmm
<erysdren> if i git clone that directory it works
<erysdren> but it doesn't work with git remote add
<OscarL> weird. I have 3 remotes on that same clone. all work.
<erysdren> let me try again
<erysdren> ah i see
<erysdren> git fetch --tags review is the command that fails
<erysdren> error: RPC failed; curl 18 HTTP/2 stream 7 was reset
<erysdren> fatal: unable to write request to remote: Broken pipe
<OscarL> reboot PC and/or reset router? Famous "Have you tried turn it in off and on again?"
<jessicah> ah, yeah, it fetches from github first then adds review to fetch tags, as they're not on the github mirror
<jessicah> limitation of github's implementation
<erysdren> ah
<erysdren> what can i do about it?
<jessicah> cloning from review directly is even less reliable
<erysdren> what is the review repo used for?
<jessicah> it's our main repo
<erysdren> ah
<jessicah> github is mirrored from review, sans tags
<erysdren> what's wrong with cloning review directly then?
<OscarL> sloooow, in a good day? (at least for me)
<erysdren> ah
<jessicah> as I said, it's unreliable for cloning
<jessicah> you could maybe run in a loop
<augiedoggie> i haven't done a full clone in a while but i never have trouble with the main repo
<OscarL> can you just set latest tag manually? Assuming only laters "hrev" is needed for versioning something (/me hides, just in case he is being dumber than usual).
<jessicah> there's a variable, I forget the name
<OscarL> Also, "--depth=1" is my friend :-D
<jessicah> export HAIKU_REVISION = hrev66666 ;
<jessicah> erysdren: you can skip the fetch from review, and export that with whatever the current hrev is
<botifico-c849d97b> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+2/-0/±1] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/bfa2807523b3...d6fd23fe3cce
<botifico-c849d97b> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus d6fd23f - botan3, add recipe for version 3.0.0 (#8674)
* OscarL takes notes for the next time something like this comes up. Thanks jessicah :-)
<OscarL> Begasus got up early today it seems :)
<jessicah> augiedoggie: my experience has generally been the opposite :p so it's just a bit of an attempt to mitigate potential failures
<augiedoggie> probably a geographical thing, is it hosted in the US?
<jessicah> I don't know how our infra is setup these days
<erysdren> i was able to clone review directly
<erysdren> slow, but didnt break
<jessicah> weird that adding as a remote wouldn't work then :p
<erysdren> yeah idk
<jessicah> just more proof that review is unreliable ;-)
<erysdren> now compiling
<erysdren> ahh didnt work
<erysdren> maybe ill do this later
<erysdren> i just wanna add a cmake toolchain file so i can also compile some of my stuff to haiku
<erysdren> but i don't think i can spend time on it right now
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<Begasus> g'morning peeps
<OscarL> hi. Up early today? :-D
<OscarL> uhh! kernel/OS.h's team_info got a new "char name[B_OS_NAME_LENGTH];". I should try using that on /bin/pidof some time.
<Begasus> Hola :) yep, mostly I go out for a bit to drink some coffee locally, but couldn't wait to see if the build for llvm9 was ok :)
<OscarL> heh.
<OscarL> btw, lvm9-9.0.1.recipe (line 490). spurious "#" or on purpose?
<Begasus> checking ...
<Begasus> err ... probably, thanks for catching
<OscarL> np.
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<Begasus> fixed :)
<OscarL> LGTM!
<Begasus> think it should be fine now, only thing involved here is the llvm9_python39 package (installed OK here)
<Begasus> if nothing comes up I'll merge that one later today
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<botifico-c849d97b> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/d6fd23fe3cce...6a41f42d636d
<botifico-c849d97b> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus 6a41f42 - icu73, change patchset according to upstream (#8682)
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<botifico-c849d97b> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+2/-1/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/6a41f42d636d...d3422eb04c60
<botifico-c849d97b> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus d3422eb - armadillo, bump version (#8676)
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<Begasus> VM almost running for 2 days in a row, nice :)
<OscarL> trying to update tor to latest version... wanna apply/close #3364 :-D
<Begasus> #3064 maybe?
<Begasus> ah, was looking at the issues :)
<OscarL> build failed due to a missing cmd:asciidoc :-P. Retrying.
<Begasus> k, no error reported for 64bit in the report :D
<OscarL> buildmaster really could use a search function for build-logs :-/
<OscarL> well, I could use it if it had it :-D
<Begasus> yeah, mostly I check a merged date and try to scroll back in the list there if I want to check up on something
<OscarL> ballparking the build number and hitting previous/next ain't no fun :D
<Begasus> heh, patches welcome :)
<OscarL> gotta figure out where that code is first :D
<Begasus> think you need to talk to kallisti5[m] for that
<OscarL> real 10m8.631s , only to tell me it wants cmd:git too :-/
<OscarL> let's see what I can disable via .configure :-D
<Begasus> lol
<Begasus> https://bpa.st/AFDM4 k, let's see to clean this list ...
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<OscarL> grrr: waiting for build package tor-0.4.7.13-2 to be activated
<Begas_VM> gotta love those ... NOT! :)
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<OscarL> I might endup patching hp so it just deletes boot/system inside the work dir right after a build fails :-)
<OscarL> holy cow. managed to get it down to: "tor-0.4.7.13-2-x86_64.hpkg" >> real 3m52.166s
<OscarL> guess I finnaly found a place where "--disable-dependency-tracking" makes a difference? :-D
<OscarL> or it just reused the old compile objects, mmm.
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<botifico-c849d97b> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±14] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/d3422eb04c60...d925d37b2a26
<botifico-c849d97b> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus d925d37 - disable libX11_xcb depending libraries (#8688)
<Begasus> hope I got them all :)
<Begasus> mutch cleaner! :D
<OscarL> was typing those words too :-D
<Begasus> libX11 doesn't need primary on 32bit
<Begasus> see, now one can detect things that "could" be fixed :)
<botifico-c849d97b> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/d925d37b2a26...5e94510b74c1
<botifico-c849d97b> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus 5e94510 - libX11, disable x86_gcc2 (#8689)
<Begasus> depends on libxcb which is !x86_gcc2
<OscarL> avidemux_x86 needs a revbump to pick up x265 ?
<Begasus> yep, wanted to have a go the other day on that one, started a build that seemed ok (but took too long to let it do a full build here)
<Begasus> heh
<Begasus> or you could tackle kdevelop? ;)
<OscarL> HA
<OscarL> libxmu could lose gcc2
<botifico-c849d97b> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/5e94510b74c1...5d714cfbfa72
<botifico-c849d97b> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus 5d714cf - libXmu, no libX11 for x86_gcc2 (#8690)
<OscarL> :P
<Begasus> already there :)
<OscarL> Haiku includes padblocker, IIRC, and I remember reading something about leaving it there for a while, but that might have been before beta4.
<Begasus> yep, maybe someone is still using alpha4 :)
<OscarL> heh
<Begasus> but right, saw something about it being included in Haiku (although I can't seem to track that down)
<OscarL> mmm, seems it is not actually included on the images.
<Begasus> e2fsprogs_x86-1.45.6-1-x86_gcc2.hpkg:
<Begasus> requires "lib:libblkid_x86 >= 1.1.0" of package "e2fsprogs_x86-1.45.6-1" could not be resolved
<Begasus> this comes from util_linux
<Begasus> didn't get to build it, think it tries to use both of the libuuid packages?*
<Begasus> k, xlibs cleaned up
<Begasus> yesterday's bucket list done :D
<Begasus> commented :) thanks for the link (lost it)
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<Begasus> avidemux could be updated too :)
<OscarL> what's the issue with libjpeg_x86 ?
<Begasus> libjpegVersion="62.3.0"
<Begasus> probably with the switch to turbo_jpeg
<Begasus> ptb PR is up, but crashes for me, don't know the current stats with the one in the depot
<Begas_VM> well, can't be installed (icu57)
<OscarL> re libjpeg. Could have used a REPLACES perhaps?
<Begas_VM> err boost 1.57.0
<Begasus> would still mean a rebuild OscarL
<Begasus> libjpeg9(c?) was dropped in favor of turbo_jpeg years ago
<OscarL> k. wasn't here then :P
<OscarL> back to tor.
<Begasus> ;)
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<OscarL> might want to give a go to plee_the_bear later.
<Begasus> PR is already up there, mind you, no small archive :)
<OscarL> :-( I was happy with it not having THAT many deps :-D
<Begasus> heh
<OscarL> mmm not sure if test take too long, or tor just hanged ;-D
<Begasus> think jpeg has been removed from the repo, last thing I can find is: https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/commit/401d082a5a9a0da8f7217b1dec4cfb1a585d3393
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<OscarL> most recipes seem to REQUIRE libjpeg without specifying a version...
<Begas_VM> yeah, because turbo_jpeg is default now
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<OscarL> would be possible to reactivate that jpeg9c one, and add "= 9.3.0" to the requires for those openjdks? or they just need a revbump to catchup jpeg_turbo?
<Begas_VM> already on it :)
<Begas_VM> easier to restore the jpeg one then to rebuild the openjdk ones I guess
<OscarL> this tor tests seem to be going nowhere... slowly.
<Begas_VM> bugger
<Begas_VM> biab
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<OscarL> Mmm ShellCheck looked interesting... until: haskell :-/
<Begas_VM> k, this solves the "install" part for the openjdk packages, not sure if it's worth the efford
<Begas_VM> if those aren't really in use maybe they could be disabled ...
<erysdren> this has probably been asked before, but i'm guessing that any sort of support for BeOS applications in the x86_64 version of Haiku would involve a Wine-like wrapper?
<erysdren> since the only way to get native BeOS application support is with the old version of gcc on the x86 build
<Begasus> never tried, but I doubt you could erysdren
<OscarL> I've read some discussions of some "Haiku on Haiku", to be able to run 32 bits apps on 64 bits installs. You might want to search the forums for discussions on that, or talk to x512[m] and trungnt2910[m] about it.
<trungnt2910[m]> I'm not the expert on that topic, just somebody interested like you.
<x512[m]> Said the person made alternative Haiku syscalls implementation from scratch...
<OscarL> :D
<Begasus> ;)
<botifico-c849d97b> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/5d714cfbfa72...9e985d0a07a6
<botifico-c849d97b> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus 9e985d0 - openjdk12, revbump for libjpeg (#8691)
<Begasus> k, let's see how this goes, still got openjdk11
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<Begasus> k, didn't go to well :P /bin/bash: cannot open named pipe /tmp//sh-np.phKwbp for reading: No such file or directory
<erysdren> first thing haiku did after installing and then reboot itself was irrepairably freeze :P
<erysdren> such is life
<OscarL> :-(. Boot from USB, and try retrieving the syslog?
<OscarL> or just try one of the many safe-mode options from the bootloader menu.
<OscarL> (disabling SMP is one that seems to do the trick the most on my crappy hardware :-D)
<erysdren> it booted just fine afterwards, but it did freeze on first boot after install and then i had to suffocate it
<erysdren> it's done this a few times while experimenting on this laptop
<erysdren> though i gotta say, i didnt expect it to do that right after a proper install
<OscarL> on my Atom N450... I had to permanently disable SMP to make it boot reliably. I try with SMP enable again from time to time (after updates), and sometimes it works, I get happy... and then it doesn't :-D
<Begasus> you could use Pulse to disable cpu's too :)
<OscarL> can't do that if it hangs before you click it :-D
<Begas_VM> openjdk9 build started .... crossing fingers
<OscarL> disabled the tor tests that hang... that allows to run others... a couple just crashed thou (reminds me of the Python test runs :-D)
<OscarL> too bad you can't make debugger (inside the chroot) autosave reports instead of poping up the crash dialog.
<OscarL> A lot are crashing now, heh.
<augiedoggie> you can configure the debugger, i've seen some recipes do it in the TEST section
<OscarL> tried that on the Python ones... might have another look.
<OscarL> (if these crash dialogs stop popping up :D)
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<OscarL> Good thing I wrote that down at least :-D
<Begasus> put it up on some wiki for easy tracking :)
<OscarL> Thing is... you can't do it from inside the recipe / chroot. At least that's was my experience, and last comment on https://dev.haiku-os.org/ticket/10301 points to that still being the case, unless I'm missing something, as there's no ENV override for it, or something.
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<OscarL> do you have a "padblocker" file anyware?
<Begasus> meanwhile openjdk9 still building
<Begasus> never used it, so maybe it's only created after changing something there?
<Begasus> no such file found on the disk
<OscarL> I see it in haiku/src/add-ons/input_server/filters/padblocker/ on the sources, , but not under /boot/system/add-ons/input_server/filters
<OscarL> that's why I assumed it was not added to the images. (jamfile says: "Addon padblocker").
<Begasus> err ... it is here (probably a typo when searching) in /system/add-ons/input_server/filters
<OscarL> Heh,,, I think I just have it blacklisted, LOLK
<Begasus> k, safe to remove from the depot then, don't think we need to look back to alpa4
<OscarL> haiku/build/jam/packages/Haiku contains padblocker. and confirmed, I have it blacklisted.
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] autocommitter pushed 1 commit to master [hrev57014] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=35a88355adf8+%5Eec97248c2a82
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 35a88355adf8 - Update translations from Pootle
<Begasus> lol
<OscarL> would be cool if debugger saved the reports in ~/CrashReports instead of making a mess of my poor Desktop :-D
<Begasus> patches welcome :P
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<OscarL> Attempted one already in the past :-D
<nielx[m]> That's not very discoverable though
<OscarL> was a naive fix for the "stop bugging me about installing debuginfo packages!!!"
<OscarL> nielx[m]: I'd be more than happy with just a config setting for it.
<Begasus> maybe ~/Desktop/CrashReports then? ;)
<OscarL> but an explosion of bug reports after you set the default action to save_report, and run some big test suite.... ain't too funny... or it is, I guess, depending on your mood :-D
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<botifico-c849d97b> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-1/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/9e985d0a07a6...006524c0945a
<botifico-c849d97b> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus 006524c - padblocker, remove, now included in R1B4 (#8693)
<Begasus> cu padlocker recipe :)
<OscarL> :-D
<OscarL> re openjdk12: "/bin/bash: cannot open named pipe /tmp//sh-np.0CMqJh" <<< is the double dash the one causing the problem there?
<OscarL> s/dash/slash/
<Begasus> another one down from the list
<Begasus> don't think so OscarL
<Begasus> saw it passing by simular with openjdk9 where it didn't fail on that, error is before that
<OscarL> Finally! After disabling the tests that hang, *only* 19 crashed ;-D
<Begasus> heh
<OscarL> report says: # TOTAL: 26 # PASS: 18 # SKIP: 1 # XFAIL: 0 # FAIL: 7 # XPASS: 0 # ERROR: 0
<Begasus> how many disabled? ;)
<OscarL> lost count. lemme check
<OscarL> 7 files (not sure if those count as single tests or what).
<Begasus> not too bad :)
<OscarL> all related, so that's good. (test_workqueue)
<OscarL> now to find a clean way to disable them from the recipe.... Not sure if I'm on the mood for some .patchset, or some sed patching.... decisions, decisions!
<Begasus> you already had to disable them somewhere ...
<OscarL> removed them from an include.am file :-D
<Begasus> should be enough, not?
<OscarL> yup, just not sure if I should just add that to the .patchset, or be more explicit on the TEST() function, as I will have to already add some notes there.
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<OscarL> Adding "disable_tests_that_hang.diff" on PATCHES, and some notes regarding the need to configure debugger to auto-kill the crashing ones.
<trungnt2910[m]> I wonder if there's a setting/environment variable to prevent the debugger dialog from popping up...
<OscarL> No.
<trungnt2910[m]> That thing is sometimes useful and I sometimes wish something similar is available on Windows but at the same time really sucks for automated scripts and for commands that you know would fail anyway.
<OscarL> trungnt2910[m]: https://dev.haiku-os.org/ticket/10301
<OscarL> I mean.. yes... there's a setting, but not ENV variable :-D
<trungnt2910[m]> An environment variable would be convenient since it allows temporarily enabling that behavior.
<OscarL> indeed, we where talking about it earlier, as I could use that for some recipes.
<OscarL> s/where/were/
<OscarL> an ENV to allow changing the path to the setting file would be nice.
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<Begasus> openjdk9 build failure also
<Begasus> e2fsprogs can't seem to find libuuid (even with the one from util-linux installed)
<OscarL> " You are using gcc older than 4.3. This is not a supported configuration." :D
<Begas_VM> cmd:gcc$secondaryArchSuffix
<Begas_VM> so should be gcc11?
<OscarL> it is using 11.2.0, but somehow it gets confused?
<Begas_VM> openjdk8 also using gcc11 it seems
<Begas_VM> so it can't take it from there
<OscarL> some bad version check on the build system it is using?
<Begas_VM> /boot/system/packages/gawk_x86-5.2.2-1-x86_gcc2.hpkg
<Begas_VM> /boot/system/packages/gcc_x86-11.2.0_2021_07_28-10-x86_gcc2.hpkg
<Begas_VM> /boot/system/packages/gcc_x86_syslibs-11.2.0_2021_07_28-10-x86_gcc2.hpkg
<Begas_VM> /boot/system/packages/gettext_libintl-0.19.8.1-8-x86_gcc2.hpkg
<OscarL> notice that it complains of: "WARNING: C and C++ compiler have different version numbers"
<Begas_VM> no sighn of gcc2
<Begas_VM> yeah, but they look the same?
<OscarL> yup.
<OscarL> maybe it expects the version to be on other format? what does gcc --version says for gcc2?
<OscarL> for gcc11, I get: gcc (2021_07_28) 11.2.0
<Begas_VM> gcc version 11.2.0 (2021_07_28) (for both gcc and g++)
<OscarL> and gcc2? (just to see if the version string has changed... maybe it trips on the "(date)" ?)
<Begas_VM> gcc version 2.95.3-haiku-2017_07_20
<tqh> from the log line 153, both find 11.2.0 so seems the configure script is doing something wrong.
<Begas_VM> haven't touched the recipe tqh, must have worked at some point
<tqh> gcc (2021_07_28) 11.2.0 and g++ (2021_07_28) 11.2.0
<tqh> but wasn't gcc upgraded recently?
<Begas_VM> err ... sec, let me check the packages
<Begas_VM> only got the one in mentioned here
<Begas_VM> same on the other laptop
<Begas_VM> gcc_x86-11.2.0_2021_07_28-10-x86_gcc2.hpkg
<tqh> maybe it was only the buildtools gcc
<tqh> I assume autoconf generates the version check, so probably try a newer autoconf?
<Begasus> on par there (same revision)
<Begas_VM> boot/system/packages/autoconf-2.71-1-x86_gcc2.hpkg
<OscarL> can't "cmd:autoreconf" help?
<tqh> It looks like those warnings should not cause issues, but the named pipes fail
<Begas_VM> autogen.sh should take care of that I think OscarL
<tqh> IIRC there was some work in that area if this is on Haiku.
<OscarL> ah, korli fixed some pipe related issue recently, yes.
<Begas_VM> still on R1B4, so probably not included there
<tqh> not sure if there is any backporting.
<Begas_VM> whoops, just removed that paste :)
<OscarL> "kernel/fifo: fix commands like "tail -f file | grep"" << that was korli's.
<Begasus> well, the log is attached to the issue for openjdk
<Begasus> not sure if it's worth all the trouble, when re-enabling jpeg could fix this for now
<Begasus> no develop package, so nothing will/can be used other then the ones currently asking for it
<Begasus> and doesn't conflict with turbo_jpeg
<OscarL> who's the resident expert on jdk on Haiku?
<tqh> No idea.
<Begasus> 3dEyes I think
<Begasus> we're already at openjdk17 in the recipes, aside from the mentions in the report nothing seems to be broken for those broken packages?
<OscarL> I remember the beunited days... lots of talks around the *possible* java port :-D
<Begasus> seems like nothing is really using version 9,10 and 12
<OscarL> java:environment == 9
<Begasus> yeah, openjdk10 :P
<OscarL> and 11 asks for 10, and so on, as jmairboeck said.
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<Begasus> yeah, but only on build time, we don't need that anymore, we already have openjdk11
<tqh> Not sure which exact recipe you are working with but this one sources a file that I can't find: https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/blob/006524c0945a4175956095ecb7aae1aba0e2f6d3/dev-lang/openjdk/openjdk8-1.8.u242_b8.recipe#LL174C2-L174C43
<tqh> perhaps it is part of the deps.
<Begas_VM> got the one from openjdk8 in /system/data/profile.d/openjdk8.sh
<Begas_VM> + the one from openjdk14
<OscarL> Begasus: open a PR removing all the oldies! korli surely will either aprove, or try to kill us, and then explain what to do :-D
<Begas_VM> was my next plan OscarL, just wanted to be sure nothing is using it :)
<Begas_VM> but since it can't be installed I presume nothing is
<Begas_VM> only need to keep 8 and 11
<Begasus> ancestris using 11
<Begasus> geogebra using 8
<Begasus> so is arduino
<OscarL> 1.6.. arduino could use some update... not me, thou :-D
<Begas_VM> heh
<Begas_VM> don't leave me with all the fun :P
* OscarL runs away before Begasus can catch him.
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* Begas_VM sticks foot up front ...
<OscarL> k... time to try to use this "tor" thing. (also see if autostart works)
<jmairboeck> maybe the openjdk recipes can be changed so that they are built using themselves instead of the older versions
<jmairboeck> then the older versions could be dropped
<Begas_VM> so far nothing is really using the three mentioned jmairboeck
<Begas_VM> and atleast 9 and 12 fail to build, so not worth hunting those down I guess
<Begas_VM> can't build 10 if there is no 9 (and also not worth the effort) imho
<jmairboeck> 11 and 17 are LTS versions (and the versions <=8), so I would prefer keeping those
<Begas_VM> only disabling 9,10 and 12
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<Begas_VM> prior to 8 is only openjdk7_bin
<Begas_VM> that can still be installed, so we got some fossies there to keep
<Begas_VM> not sure about openjdk10_bin
<Begas_VM> it's a prebuild binary from korli I guess
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<Begasus> PR created
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<jjido> I tried using a very old ISO (from 2018!) and it installed fine, but I can’t do anything with it.
<Begasus> not that old ;)
<jjido> Any recent installer fails to copy the files
<Begasus> some of the older betas should still be around?
<jjido> I see the bash hpkg in the packages folder, it’s zero bytes and no other hpkg is copied
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<jjido> When did the installer change how it copies files?
<Begasus> no idea here, not into the internals from Haiku itself
* Begasus pokes OscarL :P
<jjido> Is there any other way to install haiku to disk?
<OscarL> jjido: have you open a ticket over https://dev.haiku-os.org already?
<jjido> Not yet
<OscarL> k, this one can be handy for that: https://dev.haiku-os.org/wiki/ReportingBugs
<OscarL> jjido: options vary depending on the hardware/storage, I guess.
<jjido> I had it on my mind. Is there an app to take a screenshot? Does PrtScrn work to add to the bug report?
<OscarL> if removable, you could just try installing it on another computer, and then move the storage back to the computer you want to run it on.
<jjido> I am on an Intel laptop with internal SSD and booting from SD card
<jjido> I don’t really want to do that
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<OscarL> just giving options.
<OscarL> you asked :-D
<Begas_VM> k, might as well check kdevelop with llvm9 :)
<OscarL> jjido: You could use a VM, let it access the SSD, install from inside the VM.
<OscarL> and yes, PrtScrn invokes the Screenshot app.
<Begas_VM> attatching a syslog could be handy too
<OscarL> jjido: the issue might not be on how Installer copies things, but on the drivers accessing the SDD, no? (that would make more sense to me).
<OscarL> *SSD
<OscarL> a lot have changed regarding NVMe, PCI, etc., since 2018.
<Begasus> have/has* :)
<OscarL> best bet, gather the relevant info, and open a ticket, so the devs can have a look.
<OscarL> Begasus: jave/jas?
<OscarL> thats how I would write them, given Spanish pronuntiation :-D
<Begasus> heh
<OscarL> not sure if Web+ is not using the proxy settings, or I have something else missconfigured regarding Tor :-/
<Begasus_32> who knows? ;)
<OscarL> extrowerk mentioned using QupZilla, but I don't have any Qt installed here :-/
<Begasus> does that even run now?
<OscarL> heh, "haiku-r1beta1-x86_64-anyboot.zip" still available via torrent :-D
<Begasus> thought there were some issues with that (using Otter in it's place)
<OscarL> Didn't QupZilla turned into Falkon?
<Begasus> could be, haven't followed there
<Begasus> I'm fine with Web+ and Otter
<OscarL> I *think* that maybe Web+ doesn't supports SOCKS proxies, so I installed proxychains_ng
<OscarL> attemting to run "proxychains4 WebPositive 127.0.0.1 9050"...
<OscarL> now accessing https://geoip.com/ gives different result, so, something is working differently, at least :-)
<OscarL> (it gives me a captha, and is slow, so tor might be just working :-D)
<OscarL> *captcha
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<OscarL> yup, even google sees a different IP, and also gives me a captcha :-D
<OscarL> Good enough for me. Will try testing the auto-start / user_launch.
<botifico-c849d97b> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-1/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/006524c0945a...eb3bf46892af
<botifico-c849d97b> [haikuports/haikuports] mywave82 eb3bf46 - media-sound/ocp: 0.2.105 version bump (#8692)
<OscarL> Mmm, seems like launch_daemon only handles settings files that are flattened BMessages, and no text files :-(
<Begasus> 26% at kdevelop, should be ok :)
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<OscarL> Let's see if I can make do with "if file_exists" :-D
<OscarL> (too bad I had to rebuild the package just for that one file, thou)
<Begasus> keeps you busy :)
<OscarL> and learning stuff! :-D
<OscarL> time to make some coffee, want to finish this one before sleep :-D
<Begasus> focus! :P
<Begasus> first beer here ... :)
<Begasus> (zero alcohol though) :P
<OscarL> never tried one of those.
<Begasus> once you get into it the regular beer doesn't taste anymore :)
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<pinaraf> hi
<pinaraf> is there any cmdline tool available to look inside a hpkg file? or can I mount it in a subdirectory?
<jmairboeck> pinaraf: package list <hpkg-file>
<pinaraf> (I'm trying to upgrade a package and my generated package is wrong, so I wanted to compare with the haikudepot version)
<jmairboeck> you can also open in Expander
<OscarL> and "package list -info <package>", to just get the info.
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<OscarL> err "package list -i <package>"
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<pinaraf> thanks a lot, should come in handy
<OscarL> pinaraf: double click on it, should open them with HaikuDepot, you can see the content there too.
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<OscarL> but for cli... yeah... package is your friend.
<Begasus> heading out to the grandchildren, cu later!
<OscarL> later!
<phschafft> have fun.
<OscarL> Mmm, I wonder why /boot/system/data/user_launch is read only, if its for "user"_launch stuff :-/ (would be nice to be able to edit those files without having to redo the package.
<jmairboeck> can't you put it into non-packaged?
<OscarL> haven't tried it yet. also... I have no clue if its actually reading the stuff or failing. nothing on the syslog :-/
<OscarL> just put a file in "non-packaged/user_launch/", with "launch alert --idea "Worked!"... got no alert :-(
<OscarL> this is just an excuse to try to learn a bit about launch_deamon, and trying to do what was suggested on https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/pull/3364... otherwise.. using UserBootscript should be simpler, I guess :-D
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<jjido> I created a ticket #18421, will try to add more info when I am next to the laptop. I will also try external drive or possibly a spinning rust disk.
<OscarL> +1
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<OscarL> jmairboeck: placing the file in non-packaged/data/user_launch did worked in the end (got that "alert" test working at least :-D)
<OscarL> either using /bin/alert or some other small thing did the trick.
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<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] ef240bfffa9b - makefile-engine: fix for riscv64
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<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 6a06a56256b2 - Debugger: fix width of alert for short messages
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 217bbbf42393 - Debugger: fix empty button on alerts with only 2 buttons
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<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] fb885767b6f4 - Deskbar: Use hvif window icons & scale with font
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] a656120f1f38 - Deskbar: Center Twitcher window 1/16 screen height above center line
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] fb1d071e14f2 - Deskbar: Increase Twitcher team icon size from 32 to 48
<OscarL> k. PR for tor open. Closing down. Bye folks!
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<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 1de4fd177c5f - Touchpad prefs: sentence casing
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<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 74d2e61ee2f6 - kernel/vm: Make cut_area respect overcommitting flag
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<botifico-c849d97b> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/eb3bf46892af...a329ef6cbf87
<botifico-c849d97b> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus a329ef6 - avidemux, revbump for libx265 (#8697)
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<Begasus> closing down, cu peeps
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<augiedoggie> heh, i'm not sure i've ever seen the forums automatically lock a topic before
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<erysdren> annoying to keep getting freezes on the thinkpad
<erysdren> tried Void Linux and it didn't have the same issue
<erysdren> maybe i should grab the system log
<erysdren> could be diagnosable
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<zdykstra> Nice deakbar changes today
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<zdykstra> Deskbar. Typing on a phone is tough, apparently.
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