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<Ampilin> saludos desde uruguay!!!
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<erysdren> got an IBM ThinkPad Z60t today, and it runs Haiku great
<erysdren> lol
<erysdren> feels and performs much better than the clean install of XP it had on it
<erysdren> not only that, but XP fails to recognize the onboard network and sound adapters
<erysdren> while Haiku just grabs them automatically
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<erysdren> the network card is detected, and it can see my wifi network, but for some reason it can't connect
<erysdren> not sure why
<erysdren> maybe it's the protocol / encryption on the network not being supported by haiku (or the network card)
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<andreasdr[m]> Cool
<Skipp_OSX> my thinkpad x220 never saw windows from me
<erysdren> if i really wanna connect this thing to the internet ill probably just use ethernet
<Skipp_OSX> prob gotta turn 802.11b on on your router
<erysdren> sadly Haiku on this (off USB) has been pretty crashy
<erysdren> also after a few boots the screen was incredibly dim for no discernable reason
<erysdren> on XP, still fine
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<Begasus> g'morning peeps
<andreasdr[m]> Good morning Begasus
<Begasus> Moin andreasdr[m]
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<botifico-c849d97b> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/77d6746ccbad...5ddf3cafb1b7
<botifico-c849d97b> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus 5ddf3ca - bluefish, remove "dirty hack", not needed anymore for the XDG variables (#8653)
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] tqh pushed 1 commit to master [hrev57001] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=fe3f797dc8e7+%5E290e43c06e5a
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] fe3f797dc8e7 - kernel: fully remove arch_check_syscall_restart
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<botifico-c849d97b> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-1/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/5ddf3cafb1b7...7aff68ae8ccf
<botifico-c849d97b> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus 7aff68a - borgbackup, bump version (#8654)
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<erysdren> good morning
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<Begasus> g'morning erysdren
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<botifico-c849d97b> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-1/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/7aff68ae8ccf...789f69c89a62
<botifico-c849d97b> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus 789f69c - byacc, bump version (#8655)
<botifico-c849d97b> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-1/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/789f69c89a62...0f95c3f636ae
<botifico-c849d97b> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus 0f95c3f - c_ares, bump version, move cmd's to primary tools package (#8656)
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<botifico-c849d97b> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-1/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/0f95c3f636ae...cf20b5a769c8
<botifico-c849d97b> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus cf20b5a - cabextract, bump version (#8657)
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<botifico-c849d97b> [haikuports/haikuports] humdingerb pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/cf20b5a769c8...633331ca8ab0
<botifico-c849d97b> [haikuports/haikuports] humdingerb 633331c - borgbackup: Improved SUMMATY/DESCRIPTION, fixed linebreaks
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<botifico-c849d97b> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+2/-2/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/633331ca8ab0...ab7661574769
<botifico-c849d97b> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus ab76615 - neon, bump version, drop x86_gcc2 (#8658)
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<botifico-c849d97b> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-2/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/ab7661574769...01e97a0d7a4e
<botifico-c849d97b> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus 01e97a0 - cadaver, bump version, drop x86_gcc2 (#8659)
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] jessicah pushed 1 commit to master [hrev57002] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=b809279cd8dd+%5Efe3f797dc8e7
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] b809279cd8dd - kernel/team: Allow retrieving more attributes
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<botifico-c849d97b> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+2/-2/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/01e97a0d7a4e...acbf22fa48f1
<botifico-c849d97b> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus acbf22f - calcurse, bump version (#8660)
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<trungnt2910[m]> Is the IRC really this quiet, or is something happening with the Matrix bridge?
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<Skipp_OSX> sssssh we're sleeping
<BrunoSpr> oh, sorry
<trungnt2910[m]> Are you really, since there have been quite a few times I got pinged here at this hour :)
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<Begas_VM> all dead trungnt2910[m] :)
<Begas_VM> 'lo BrunoSpr jmairboeck :)
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<BrunoSpr> ssssh
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<jmairboeck> Hi Begas_VM!
<Begas_VM> still need to fix the patch for llvm9 :)
<Begas_VM> on the one for tuxpaint-config, not sure, need to see if others use something like $preferenceDir (if something like that even exists)
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<jmairboeck> I used it for the (java based) PortMidi Setup tool
<jmairboeck> and it is used for the Qt configuration tools
<jmairboeck> this is just for where it appears in the Deskbar menu, not about the binary itself
<Begas_VM> need to check that :)
<Begas_VM> but not today anymore :P
<Begas_VM> botan and armadillo in the pipeline (but probably for tomorrow too), need some checking first there
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<Begasus> closing down, cu peeps!
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<pairisto[m]> I created a tap.cpp to test somethings and added it to its own directory called tap in src/add-ons/kernel/network/devices/tap/tap.cpp. I copy and pasted the tun Jamfile and edited it to replace all mentions of tun with tap but now I cannot seem to compile it using `jam -q tap` which results in it saying `don't know how to make tap` so i... (full message at <https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/v3/download/matrix.org/wjbJKcyTrUNfNbeAzxYUoash>)
<HaikuUser> did you edit haiku/src/add-ons/kernel/network/devices/Jamfile to mention tap ?
<HaikuUser> SubInclude HAIKU_TOP src add-ons kernel network devices tap ;
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<pairisto[m]> oh okay, thank you!
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<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] waddlesplash pushed 1 commit to master [hrev57003] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=0d5bde42953f+%5Eb809279cd8dd
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 0d5bde42953f - kernel/arm/paging: remove empty code block related to global pages
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] waddlesplash pushed 2 commits to master [hrev57004] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=d38dcdde7414+%5E0d5bde42953f
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] cce0386a4d7c - kernel/arm/paging: implement Accessed Flag handling
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] d38dcdde7414 - kernel/arm/paging: implement Accessed flag querying
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<Gege[m]> Hello, the "<" and ">" touchs doesn't work in DosBox or in DosBox-X
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<Skipp_OSX> idk why that would be
<Gege[m]> Can someone help me ? I'm french
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<AnatolyRabin> Hello!
<erysdren> howdy
<AnatolyRabin> I'm checking in here cos I'm curious about Haiku and thinking about trying it, but basically all I know about it is DistroTube's vid. What's the baremetal experience like?
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<AnatolyRabin> Oh cool. It is bridged.
<erysdren> AnatolyRabin im in the same position, i've been playing with the live boot image on my IBM ThinkPad Z60t
<erysdren> seems like the perfect place to use it imo
<jessicah> Hardware support varies
<erysdren> i assume he probably means "fresh from install" and not literally "running on bare metal"
<erysdren> idk though
<AnatolyRabin> I actually was asking about hardware support. I am probably gonna try a VM first
<erysdren> oh, woops
<erysdren> yeah it works great in QEMU, either 32 or 64 bit
<erysdren> you can get a good feel for it there
<jessicah> If using virtual box, don't set chipset to ICH, bugged ATM for nightly image
<jessicah> May also affect actual hardware, there's been a regression with PCI support in a small number of cases
<AnatolyRabin> I am hoping to talk to a developer of Haiku sometime also, cos I'm curious about how it ticks but not very capable of reading source code
<AnatolyRabin> I ser
<AnatolyRabin> *see
<jessicah> I am one, but depends on area of interest
<AnatolyRabin> I am on Linux so I was probably going to use VirtManager
<AnatolyRabin> Integrations, but let me swap to Matrix
<geigercounter[m]> Ok better
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<geigercounter[m]> My area of specific interest atm is how controlling windows works in Haiku. And my overall goal is to have an open source OS with well-integrated voice control. I am seemingly the last fan of Windows Speech Recognition and the way it seemlessly handles so many end-user voice-based accessibility options. Being able to control the browser, dictate, and activate pretty much any UI element systemwide from a one-stop accessibility tool
<geigercounter[m]> that doesn't need internet access is criminally underrated.
<erysdren> very understandable
<geigercounter[m]> And it seems to me that Haiku would be better at supporting that than Linux desktop environments.
<erysdren> a11y is so important in all areas of computing
<erysdren> a place that linux is heavily lacking.
<jessicah> Haiku has a messaging based suites for programmatic UI interaction
<jessicah> There's the CLI tool `hey` for an example implementation
<geigercounter[m]> Oooh
<geigercounter[m]> I'd like to take a look at that, do you have a demo video?