<AlienSoldier>
jeremyc[m] could it be that my version was too old to interface with the zstd compression package? and i require a new fresh install? This was not advertised and if somethign happen it should be indicated in the software updater before hand?
<AlienSoldier>
oops this was for jessicah
<jessicah>
AlienSoldier: for CSM/bios boot, it'll use the haiku_loader on the system BFS partition, so it shouldn't be affected
<jessicah>
for UEFI, the loader doesn't get automatically updated, hence why I thought that might be it
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<AlienSoldier>
so it must be a regression then as i se no reason why this current state would work and not the upgraded one
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<AlienSoldier>
jessicah could it be caused by the pci refactor? from the contract report " (There are some regressions from this that have emerged in testing, however, which are not yet resolved, so upgrade with caution if you are still on a slightly older nightly build.)". After all it is the time where bios graphic switch video and where sound is initiated.
<jessicah>
I don't know
<AlienSoldier>
will try later to boot as vesa to see if it get farther
<botifico-c849d97b>
[haikuports/haikuports] threedeyes 1647eb1 - qt6_declarative: bump version
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<OscarL>
It's alive!!! my serial mouse in Haiku is ALIVE!!! (comms is out of sync, so movements are quasi erratic, but stilll... PROGRESS at last!)
<OscarL>
no idea why causes Haiku's combination of BSerialPort+pc_serial/tty module to be so picky regarding call order of SetBaudrate/Timeouts, etc,... need to call those before Open() to get something working (?!?) but... hey, at least now I can actually read the mouse data!
<zdykstra>
Wooh!
<OscarL>
Hey there zdykstra! Hope you're having a good weekend.
<zdykstra>
I am! Had a nice bike ride today. Had the neighbors dog over while they were away - so all in all good :)
<zdykstra>
You?
<OscarL>
Glad to read that! on this side... can't complain much... so... also progress! :-P
<Begasus>
nephele, you managed to get some recipes/patches to github earlier didn't you?
<_Dario_>
WordTsar (a modern clone of old WordStar made in Qt) build on Haiku :)
<Begasus>
nice _Dario_
<_Dario_>
only a minor adjustment in the Makefile was needed
<nephele>
Begasus: when? didn't upload anything to git today
<OscarL>
_Dario_: DAMN! I still remember my old DOS days, moving to WORD 5.5 after using WordStar.... and later ditching both for Professiona Write :-D
<Begasus>
not today nephele :)
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<_Dario_>
I still miss the old DOS times too, OscarL
<Begasus>
no worries, this one isn't enabled (yet) :)
<nephele>
Begasus: what do you mean by fork updating?
<OscarL>
nephele: thanks for taking the time to look at mpv. As I also won't be doing much more on that recipe.... maybe Begasus could merge it as is now?
<Begasus>
This branch is 1736 commits behind haikuports:master. :)
<andreasdr[m]>
Good evening.
<Begasus>
Hi andreasdr[m] :)
<andreasdr[m]>
Hi Begasus. :)
* OscarL
waves at andreasdr[m]
<andreasdr[m]>
Hi OscarL
<andreasdr[m]>
:)
<nephele>
Begasus: so? that branch is irrelevant, it's just an artifact of githubs wierd process
<nephele>
it forced me to create that branch basically, but i've *never* used it
<Begasus>
np nephele , personaly I try to keep "my" fork on par with upstream
<nephele>
why?
<Begasus>
to make sure I don't start updating recipes that are already updated upstream
<Begasus>
could push your changes for minetest to haikuports, but I have to figure out how to do that again (reminder, I'm still a git noob at those things) :)
<nephele>
just use the github remote of haikuports itself to update your local branch... which you are probably doing already if you keep it "uptodate"?
<botifico-c849d97b>
[haikuports/haikuports] OscarL 328b8b8 - mpv: update to 0.35.1, minor fixups. (#8630)
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<Begasus>
jmairboeck, will hold of on texlive for a bit, probably later today (should take some time so probably some others could squeze in before that) :)
<Anarchos>
hello
<Anarchos>
Begasus i could not upgrade anymore due to a mess in the msi refactoring recently. I have to wait that to be solved :)
<Begasus>
I'm still on R1B4 Anarchos , so far no blockers
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<OscarL>
I think AlienSoldier issues might be the same Anarchos is facing (PCI refactor / MSI stuff related)
<andreasdr[m]>
Oh let me boot my Haiku if I suffer from that too.
<andreasdr[m]>
to see ...
<OscarL>
Maybe AlienSoldier could "downgrade" to hrev56935, and see if he can boot that.
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<andreasdr>
Hmm. The latest nightly boots here pretty normal.
<andreasdr>
56996
<OscarL>
nice! eh.... Arrr? :-P
<andreasdr>
:D
<Begasus>
;)
* OscarL
forgot to disable his barely "working" serial_mouse... seems to confuse input_server a bit still...
<andreasdr[m]>
Oh. Haiku crashed after 3 minutes usage while compiling tdme2
<andreasdr[m]>
This is new.
<OscarL>
(but not KDLs, and the cursor moves (badly)... I call that a win for today.)
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<OscarL>
So... I came across "rpath" issues when porting the "tilde" editor. Begasus seems we just disable "rpath" when we can on recipes, is that right?
<Begasus>
I've seen it passing by, but not sure if it's needed (I see some others use it 'sometimes' also at repology)
<OscarL>
(just in case, I did some quick recipe work on "chrpath", a tool that allows removal of rpath info from elf files)
<Begasus>
that should be used inside recipes then I guess OscarL
<OscarL>
that's what I was thinking... as not all projects allow for easy disabling of rpath (no CMAKE, and/or too complex build systems to just patch via sed :-D)
<OscarL>
building tilde, for example.... is an exercise in frustration :-D
<OscarL>
(managed to build and run some months ago... but that rpath thing beat me back then :-D)
<Begasus>
ok, note to self, don't look into updating KDE apps :P
<andreasdr[m]>
No kdl unfortunatly.
<OscarL>
bare metal, or VM andreasdr[m] ?
<Begasus>
so far haven't really run into something related to rpath OscarL
<OscarL>
Begasus: lucky man! :-D
<andreasdr[m]>
Bare metal, my Haiku machine.
<OscarL>
ah, bummer, I was about to suggest capturing the serial output to a text file (assuming you don't have a serial port on bare metal).
<OscarL>
Begasus: I had to patch "chrpath" slightly (not sure I did it correctly, thou). Now builds, and seems to work, but only tested it really lightly. Maybe I should open a Draft PR for it anyway? (so it doesn't rots on my hdd?)
<Begas_VM>
sure OscarL :)
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<Anarchos>
AlienSoldier you can also just disable acpi at boot time (or in kernel settings file)
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<jmairboeck>
texlive_core should be built before texlive
<jmairboeck>
I'm not sure if the texlive package contains any full path references to texlive_core in the form of /packages/texlive-$version/.self/..., but I think not. So it actually shouldn't matter really
<Begasus>
my idea too jmairboeck (which is not happening because texlive recipe doesn't contain a version string for texlive_core)
<Begasus>
ok, we'll have to try out tomorrow :)
<Begasus>
OscarL, keeping it together would be better I think (just can't remember our conversation about it) :P
<nekobot>
[haiku/haiku] 191eff4135d3 - kernel/arm: remove unused function arch_check_syscall_restart
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<OscarL>
As I see it, the choice was: "separate them so fixing the python bindings was easier", vs "we don't really need more than only one python binding package, and maybe not even that" :-D
<jmairboeck>
the problem is, I couldn't directly refer to texlive$secondaryArchSuffix because texlive is any arch.
<jmairboeck>
texlive_core$secondaryArchSuffix
<Begasus>
maybe "cmd:kpsewhich >= 2023" ?
<Begasus>
provided the command is versioned ...
<jmairboeck>
yeah, that would have been better I think
<Begasus>
this is pretty obvious? "what's the usecase for python bindings"
<OscarL>
my wording failed me again... I mean... as kallisti5[m] didn't replied on that PR... (but on IRC he said something as "they were there, so I just added them")...
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<Begasus>
that was my thought too :)
<OscarL>
so I wans't not entirely sure if "what's the use for this?" --> "we don't need/want this".
<OscarL>
(excellent English, I have, as you can see :-P)
<Begasus>
mine isn't that good either at times :)
<OscarL>
Also... it was YOU who started changing that unicorn recipe! :-P (that's what I get for being nosy :-D)
<Begasus>
but would go for the second one then, having it in doesn't harm
<Begasus>
I think it was after you asked me to look into it also :P
<OscarL>
mmm, I have no use for Unicorn, so.... we'll have to check the logs to see who started what? :-D
<OscarL>
Ok... will remove an "?" in front of x86 I forgot about, and open a PR for the one that only keeps one python package (in the same recipe).
<Begasus>
heh
<Begasus>
right, looks fine to me
<Begasus>
but then again, who am I :P
<OscarL>
Master Begasus, of course!
<Begasus>
I'm still learning from the masters ;)
<OscarL>
"git co unicorn", LOL +1000 commits behind master :-D
<Habbie>
lol
<OscarL>
(well, rather 1004 changed files, it seems)
<OscarL>
Hello Habbie! hope you're having a nice Sunday.
<Habbie>
i am, thank you!
<Begasus>
way ahead of you OscarL : This branch is 1 commit ahead, 5000 commits behind haikuports:master. :P
<OscarL>
:-D
<Begasus>
it's a nice round number though :P
<OscarL>
I have branches I ended up moving to "archive/*" instead of "wip/*" already :-D
<Begasus>
woot ... This branch is 1 commit ahead, 8731 commits behind haikuports:master. :D
<botifico-c849d97b>
[haikuports/haikuports] KapiX ea4b6d4 - Update Scintilla and Koder (#7928)
<OscarL>
Skipp_OSX: I commented that maybe AlienSoldier's issues with his updated system might be the same as Anarcho's (PCI-refactor / MSI-related). Then Anarchos suggested AlienSoldier a possible workaround: disable ACPI. Seems it didn't work for him, and that's where this "new acpi" confusion cames from?
<Skipp_OSX>
can somebody explain to me what the pci refactor does exactly
<Skipp_OSX>
not exactly but sum it up
<Skipp_OSX>
what's the elevator pitch on the pci refactor?
<OscarL>
Skipp_OSX: from waddlesplash's report: "This refactors the PCI handling to be more consistently split along bus driver / bus manager lines, like other subsystems within Haiku are (e.g. USB), where previously it was split only along architecture lines."
<OscarL>
"This allows for more sharing of code between different architectures, or more complicated PCI initialization sequences."
<Skipp_OSX>
I knew it, ruining the purity of x86 architecture for fancy risc architectures again
<OscarL>
damn hippies!
<waddlesplash>
Skipp_OSX: actually no, this also paves the way for better support of pci on x86
<waddlesplash>
including resource allocation, needed on newer systems for many devices
<waddlesplash>
like I2C input
<Skipp_OSX>
I know I know I'm messing around, I understand it's for net good in the end after b00gs
<OscarL>
FWIW, even I got you were joking Skipp_OSX :-D
<Skipp_OSX>
but what does any of that have to do with PCI?
<Skipp_OSX>
i guess if e is included then I get it
<Skipp_OSX>
PCIe
<PulkoMandy>
Yes, PCI and PCIe (and Thunderbolt) are the same thing at the software level
<PulkoMandy>
The hardware is different
<PulkoMandy>
So in Haiku, "pci" actually means all of these
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<AlienSoldier>
Skipp_OSX yes, probably not even acpi related, just someting (whatever it is) boarded the ship an now the computer do not boot to desktop anymore :)
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<OscarL>
AlienSoldier: tried updating only up to hrev56935 ? (that is *just* right before the PCI refactor stuff)
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<AlienSoldier>
OscarL no, i will try that when i have time