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<bmc77> Has there been any update on the instability of external monitors re: sleep and resume / connect and reconnect? (M2 Max, HDMI out)
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<nicknamer> does XXX work yet?
<nicknamer> i see that backlight is meant to work on M2 15in, but it does not work on mine.
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<fl0_id> nicknamer you mean keyboard backlight, right?
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<spuostheterrible[m]> I was gonna install gentoo, but I forgot a usb, so I decided to poke around in the installer
<spuostheterrible[m]> Why would anyone want to change the macOS version for your firmware?
<spuostheterrible[m]> I mean it’s a dev option but I’m wondering a little about what effect that has on the boot process
<spuostheterrible[m]> Wait I forgot asahi-dev exists, my bad
<fl0_id> spuostheterrible[m] (I assume) it's because you maybe can try to boot one os version with an older or newer firmware?
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<Juest> hey, should i ask in #asahi-alt or #asahi-dev about the patches needed to the kernel tree and that kind of details?
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<j`ey> you just use the git tag, dont apply any patches yourself
<Juest> i believe adelie would rather not package an additional kernel
<j`ey> I dont think they'd want to apply all asahi patches to their main kernel either?
<Juest> probably as well, yeah
<j`ey> also you need a 16K build of the kernel
<Juest> hmmmmm
<Juest> just what's necessary to make macs boot
<Juest> im not sure about the 16k build of the kernel
<j`ey> also alpine linux has some asahi stuff, and adelie uses apk too right>
<Juest> adelie uses easy-kernel
<Juest> adelie is not alpine despite using the same package manager, even that has diverted
<j`ey> yeah, just saying that you could use the alpine packages for inspiration
<chaos_princess> Juest: you need the 16k kernel to make them boot
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<fl0_id> Juest they don't want to package an additional kernel, but maintaining an ever growing amount of patches is better?
<Juest> fl0_id: there's a reason they chose to partner with a kernel that aligns to their goals
<Juest> instead of using anything else
<j`ey> the easy kernel page doesnt load for me :/
<Juest> weird
<j`ey> you'd have to use an older tag, since asahi linux has moved to 6.12
<j`ey> and adelie is using 6.6
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<Juest> yeah its lts not mainline
<Juest> asahi kernel is mainline only?
<j`ey> stuff isnt backported, no
<j`ey> and it's basically using the same versions as fedora
<Juest> i see
<j`ey> 0100-linux-6.6.58.patch, 16MB patch!
<Juest> i think thats not the right homepage, let me check
<Juest> could be down
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<j`ey> yeah just down currently
<Juest> doesnt matter, adelie gitlab has the patches and it builds off kernel.org apparently
<j`ey> sure, just wanted to read about it!
<Juest> oh yeah, certainly, you can use internet archive
<j`ey> anyway I would find a 6.6 tag, do a diff to make a patch and try get that working
<Juest> Dang it, its not archived oddly enough
<Juest> yeah sure
<Juest> thanks for the tip
<j`ey> then you need to work out config changes
<j`ey> (16K and all the APPLE specific configs)
<fl0_id> Juest I'm sure they did, but some of these might not lean itself well to full hw support. But that's just me guesstimating.
<Juest> heres a small faq that may be of use to you: https://web.archive.org/http://oddball.tech/code/kernel-mc/
<Juest> yeah not sure, adelie already supports arm64, arm, ppc(64)
<Juest> so there's that
<Juest> oh, the kernel-mc person isn't online apparently so that explains it being down
<Juest> anyways, gotta reboot my znc computer
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