07:27 <sonne> has anybody figured out palm detection? my trackpad is super sensitive and i get all sorts of false input for example while typing

07:27 <sonne> ages ago on my early '10s mac i could tune synaptic settings for that but i suppose things are different now

09:40 <Halian> Nice

09:41 <runxiyu> external keyboard with working trackpoint :D

09:45 <fl0_id> runxiyu true. I actually have a usb keyboard with trackpoint that looks exactly like a thinkpad one. (like the one from an x230 or t450s more or less)

09:45 <fl0_id> but not using it daily because its not very ergonomic

09:46 <fl0_id> day to day i have an ergonomic keyboard from lenovo with cork palmrest which is super nice. though no trackpoint but for such a setup that's better I guess

10:05 <Soni> can you put HRT guide in asahi installer?

10:09 <j`ey> Soni: no

10:13 <Soni> but it's a way to ensure ppl download a copy

11:11 <chadmed> irrespective of the dire political situation in certain failed states giving out unsolicited medical advice is not really a good idea, and suggesting we do is quite silly. there are people eminently more qualified than we to provide this information to folks who need it

11:13 <PaulFertser> You mean the suggestion wasn't a joke in the first place?

11:14 <chadmed> given who it came from, i dont think so

11:21 <Soni> okay

11:22 <Soni> can you have a "the folks of these identities who have contributed to the project would like to make their identities known" list?

11:23 <Soni> no specific names, just stuff like "not a person", "autgender", etc

11:25 <Soni> ("representation matters" and stuff)

11:28 <PaulFertser> For statistical purposes? Would that be anyhow meaningful without strict definition for the possible "stuff"?

11:29 <Soni> no, it's so that someone who sees the installer can see "oh hey, ppl like me make this stuff"

11:30 <j`ey> I don't think that's also needed in the installer

11:31 <PaulFertser> Some projects embed the pride flag emoji or similar into official logos etc. One like that in the installer might look appropriate.

11:31 <Soni> well, in the download page would be fine too, but the installer just feels like a more obvious place to put it

11:31 <Soni> but it should be somewhere visible

12:35 <fl0_id> at least related to gender, asahi is prob quite well known for its representation anyway

14:42 <Soni> not just gender. "Black", "Deaf", etc would count, too. we think an open approach is better than a closed approach tho, then you decide on a case-by-case basis what you're willing to include

14:43 <Soni> (or, to be more specific, which contributors you want to make unwelcome)

14:45 <wunky> if anything, putting the pride flag in places would probably keep the deplorables away so for that reason alone it'd be nice :P

14:57 <fl0_id> Soni well that was your example. Ofc inclusion is much broader, but what I know of the project, it's one of the better ones, and at first I understood you as wanting the proejct to make a statement due to political events, not necessarily with any goal for the project in mind, which are two different things. To me, much bigger hurdle to ppl participating in asahi is just b/c it's hard to start, requires specialized knowledge and/or there's not always

14:57 <fl0_id> someone to point you in the right direction esp. if ppl are impatient. but that's to be expected I think.

15:04 <Soni> fl0_id: onboarding and taking criticism are hard, yeah

15:05 <Soni> but yes, we want both to make a statement and to make it a goal for the project

15:06 <Soni> asahi is one of the better ones, it sucks that it's tied with apple, given the whole uh, y'know.

15:06 <wunky> Soni: on the flip side, asahi allows people to break free from apple's software ecosystem

15:06 <wunky> in other words, providing some sense of freedom in an otherwise locked down ecosystem

15:07 <Soni> it's still tied between a rock and a hard place tho

15:07 <Soni> tim cook was at the inauguration, no?

15:08 <Soni> and you still need the apple hardware...

17:07 <blueteeth> hi guys

17:07 <blueteeth> should steam work atm? i think it crashes for me at launch and freezes

19:26 <JamesB192_> Blueteeth: yes.