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<monthebiff> evening from nz all... o/
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<monthebiff> been playing using asahi as my main os now for a few weeks, noticed power stuff when compared to mac os. been a couple of times i've needed to charge my device cause it was dead from having the lid closed, power draining faster than i would expect normally etc.
<monthebiff> sure it's pretty normal / expected atm
<monthebiff> but is there a recommened power config for battery use?
<monthebiff> recommended*
<chadmed> monthebiff: which device do you have
<monthebiff> m1 pro mbp
<monthebiff> 16gb of ram if it makes a difference
<chadmed> all pro/max/ultra devices have known idle pm issues. we dont know why but its on the list of things to look at
<monthebiff> oh thats good to know
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<monthebiff> is there a summary of what we do know about it?
<monthebiff> ill google :P
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<chadmed> tldr certain parts of the clusters are _supposed_ to shut down Automatically(tm) when all the cores in the cluster are in WFI, but for whatever reason that's not happening
<chadmed> iirc we cant really do anything else about it until we sort out the psci mess
<monthebiff> moar. i want to read all of the things :P
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<monthebiff> and the hibernate vs sleep options in the kde settings panels... they all mean sleep? (hibernate not implemented?)
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<nicolas17> monthebiff: hibernate is not implemented, and sleep is really s2idle (userspace processes are not given any CPU cycles), not "actual" sleep
<chadmed> s2idle is perfectly fine... assuming the soc is not misbehaving. unfortunately the pro/max/ultra socs are misbehaving
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<nicolas17> but implementing proper suspend requires fixing a bunch of power management things, and by the time they're fixed they make proper suspend less relevant because power consumption got better anyway
<chadmed> the base m1 and m2 devices already have comparable suspended battery life to macos
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<monthebiff> really? theres been points where i've just opened the lid and it's been dead
<monthebiff> never ran into that on the mac os side
<nicolas17> you said you have m1 pro
<nicolas17> chadmed said *base* m1 has comparable battery life to macOS :)
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<monthebiff> bahahaha
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<monthebiff> what i meant though was the implementation of suspend... is sleep? or have i misread that somewhere
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<nicolas17> the terms "suspend" and "sleep" are vague and often used interchangeably
<nicolas17> the implementation is s2idle
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<monthebiff> ooo cool
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<runxiyu_> Does anyone know how to get Zotero working? I'd like to use it for school reasons (clicking a button in firefox to save articles is important for me, I don't want to be handwriting BibTeX all the time)
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<leio> no arm64 build on flathub due to https://github.com/flathub/org.zotero.Zotero/issues/62
<leio> some arch related chinese hosting has arm64 binaries of it, don't know if I'd try those though, https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/zotero-software/107603/4
<leio> (maybe that's just the mirror link the poster there used)
<leio> (and don't know if that is of any relevant to firefox extension)
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<iex> Hello. I'm having some trouble with my M1 pro. Since I've installed asashi, I got the there's an issue with the firmware screen. So I loaded the firmware with another mac. Downloaded both mac and asashi on it.
<iex> And now the battery life is really bad
<iex> And for asashi every process takes up a lot of RAM
<iex> Battery when fully charged gets discharged in about 3 hours.
<iex> Any advice on how to proceed. Should I delete everything and get the firmware on it once more?
<kode54> since I delight in adding delays to releases, how long until M4 support
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<chadmed> iex: in case you check the logs, is that battery life in asahi or macos?
<chadmed> on pro/max/ultra socs power management is not fully done yet, so battery life is not fantastic under asahi. that doesnt affect macos though
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<iex> well, it hasnt been great on macos either after charging it with asashi and then going into macos
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<chadmed> asahi doesnt do anything to macos, so it could be the battery itself
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<runxiyu> leio: Thanks
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<runxiyu> I suppose I'll just run in emulation for now
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<iex> ah its fine on macos, but how much energy is getting used and how the fans run/getting hot on processes they would never, is a bit concerning
<iex> on processes where it would never even turn the fan on *
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