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<IIsiHaiku>
Yey, network.
<IIsiHaiku>
Somehow multiple Haiku installs and three Raspberry Pi-s can ping and traceroute, but can't connect to IRC or load any webpages except the nearest router's config.
<IIsiHaiku>
Thought I had tested them all, but this one works.
<IIsiHaiku>
Doesn't mean I don't have a network config problem somewhere, but now my working set is '(Android Haiku-hrev52936 MacOSX-mojave Solus-linux Windows).
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<nephele[m]>
sounds like dns to me
<AlwaysLivid>
i don't know what this conversation is about because i just reconnected
<AlwaysLivid>
all i know, however, is that "it's always dns"
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<nephele[x]>
supposedly so, alwayslivid
<nephele[x]>
KDE plasma has release videos for each new version, tried to watch the latest one but got really sick to my stomach from the editing .-.
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<mattlacey>
nephele[m]: I think I know which video you mean - saw it the other day and it left me not wanting to look any further
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<mattlacey>
dumb question but are all the [m]s representing matrix users?
<jadedctrl>
mattlacey: yea, it's from the bridge
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<nephele[x]>
yes, but the x is not an m ;)
<nephele[x]>
[m] is what the matrix bridge picks per default, one can also change what it should pick from the matrix side, but this is quite badly conveyed to the user
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<AlwaysLivid>
hm, could we achieve reproducible builds if we had the CI share configuration options/checksums/git revisions alongside with each build in the nightly download page?
<AlwaysLivid>
nevermind, no, because the hosted .hpkg's also change, despite the fact that we also do the same there
<AlwaysLivid>
so we'd have to pin specific versions of packages as well...
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<nephele[m]>
reproduceable build does not have to imply identical packages
<nephele[m]>
just same content
<nephele[m]>
alwayslivid: reproduceable builds is basically about removing variance in builds, ignoring more variables: for example not using the output of a seeded randomizer, not using system time (build time stamp) etc
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<AlwaysLivid>
nephele[m], nightly images come with a variety of packages. using a different version of the packages changes the checksum and makes the builds non-reproducible within a short period of time in the future, right?
<AlwaysLivid>
i am definitely positive that we do have that sort of variance present in many different places across haiku though
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<nephele[m]>
I am not too familiar with how the buid picks packages now, but i thought their versions are fixed, or is that only for the brta?
<AlwaysLivid[m]>
i mean, if i choose to build a nightly build from a very specific version of the tree before beta1, i won't be able to see how haiku precisely was like around that time unless if i find that specific iso
<nephele[m]>
why?
<AlwaysLivid[m]>
because haiku only keeps the most recent builds from the master version of haikuports and the branched versions, if i recall correctly?
<AlwaysLivid[m]>
unless if i'm completely wrong about this, which i likely am
<nephele[m]>
there is a different repo for buildpackages afaik
<AlwaysLivid[m]>
as in haikuports.cross?
<AlwaysLivid[m]>
yeah, sorry, mixed my words up
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<nephele[x]>
not sure alwayslivid :), as i said i am not that familiar with it
<ritz[m]>
Hi! I'm trying to run haiku review tool on my machine so I have cloned this repo https://github.com/owenca/haiku-format that is linked in haiku's website and ran both build.sh and install.sh but I'm not sure what to do next. Can somebody help me out?
<countryboy>
s = secure ?
<AlwaysLivid>
yes
<AlwaysLivid>
encrypted
<countryboy>
i have the way to do it fully secure ...
<AlwaysLivid>
not sure how to help, ritz[m], hope someone else responds in a bit
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<countryboy>
AlwaysLivid[m] => AlwaysSmile ...
<countryboy>
crome web browser => crometherapy ...
<ritz[m]>
AlwaysLivid: Okay 🙂
<countryboy>
never play reversi !!! xD
<countryboy>
play dama, chess, hotel ...
<countryboy>
a byte = 8 bit
<countryboy>
1 bit = 0 or 1
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<Not-5835>
[haiku/website] kallisti5 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://git.io/JnPrt
<Not-5835>
[haiku/website] panos 3a83a55 - Fixed reference to Trac in R1/Beta3 announcement (#519)
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<nielx[m]>
kallisti5: there are a few commits that seem to be done after every branch point, are you aware of that?
<kallisti5[m]>
yeah. Those are updates to the releases
<kallisti5[m]>
any updates to the branches will be built weekly to the release as update packages
<nielx[m]>
there are specific commits that were done after branching previously
<nielx[m]>
like upversioning
<nielx[m]>
changing the kernel debug level
<nielx[m]>
and reverting certain commits
<kallisti5[m]>
ooh. yeah. I know about those
<nielx[m]>
good, just checking :-)
<kallisti5[m]>
Hm.. i guess I thought that we upversioned in master after a release
<kallisti5[m]>
ah. you're right
<julicenri>
Is Web+ on nightly using the WebKit version planned for beta 3?
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<nielx[m]>
I got the impression that there might be an update pending, which is supposedly built when we update the buildbots, but I am very much guessing here
<kallisti5[m]>
ok. master updated with new versioning. r1beta3 updated with new versioning
<nielx[m]>
nice!
<PulkoMandy>
julicenri, no, not yet
<julicenri>
Aw. :(
<PulkoMandy>
we need to update the builders first, and then I can finally release the last year of work on webkit and everyone will be angry at me for all the new bugs
<julicenri>
If it adds movable tabs, then maybe some of those folks can be placated somewhat. :P