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<tpefreedom>
Hi
<jeremyf[m]>
Hello
<tpefreedom>
Was BeOS designed to be a unix-like operating system or was the posix compatibility stuff secondary?
<jeremyf[m]>
Good question
<jeremyf[m]>
"It has partial POSIX compatibility and access to a command-line interface through Bash, although internally it is not a Unix-derived operating system."
<jeremyf[m]>
Wikipedia
<jessicah>
it wasn't posix compliant
<jeremyf[m]>
Hello jessicah and thanks 😊
<jessicah>
morning :)
<jeremyf[m]>
I'm surprised that BeOS had CLI, I always thought it was like MacOS 7-9
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<jessicah>
it was one of the best features, a well integrated desktop with a posix-ish shell environment
<jessicah>
it was like macOS, before it was a thing
<jeremyf[m]>
I loved MacOS Classic so much. And I only heard a little about BeOS. Never tried. But I'm very happy Haiku is here today with old-school stuffs
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<Begasus>
g'morning peeps
<jeremyf[m]>
Good morning Begasus
<Begasus>
g'morning jeremyf[m]
<jessicah>
morning Begasus
<Begasus>
g'evening jessicah :)
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<jessicah>
my .net port is coming along very well :)
<Begasus>
you got your hw setup then?
<jessicah>
I did, the 1TB m.2 ssd my gf bought for me arrived yesterday
<jessicah>
so now I can run linux in a vm with a heap of disk space, same for haiku vm
<Begasus>
nice!
<jessicah>
the linux vm is approx 2x faster than my old i3 nuc
<jessicah>
:D
<jessicah>
haven't done a native install of haiku yet, as I don't have any usb drives to throw an install onto
<Begasus>
for compiling stuff vm can be enough, the 32bit here is also running vm with Windows as a host
<Begasus>
was thinkering on putting the 4 cores into the VM, not sure how Windows would handle it (now only 2 cores set in it)
<jessicah>
I don't particularly like desktop linux, so a VM on windows is better
<jessicah>
I also don't particularly like Windows 11, what a steaming pile of shit
<rennj>
yeah that good old telemetry
<jeremyf[m]>
Mmh.. Where can I reports bugs for haikuports ?
<Begasus>
issues?
<jessicah>
I'm talking about UX :p telemetry doesn't bother me too much
<jessicah>
jeremyf[m]: issues tracker at github.com/haikuports/haikuports
<Begasus>
k, lets stress test this setup, 4 cores, 4Gib RAM ... :)
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<Guest16>
hey all
<Guest16>
wow just 4 gb ram
<jeremyf[m]>
Someone here uses LibreOffice on Haiku?
<jeremyf[m]>
Hi Guest16
<Guest16>
jeremyf[m]: no not yet but I do plan on installing haiku to one of my laptops at some point
<jeremyf[m]>
When I select the Page properties right pane, Writer freeze/crash.
<jeremyf[m]>
Does someone else have the same issue or not ?
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<Begasus>
hi Guest16
<Begasus>
yeah 4GB .. go figure the age of the laptop :P
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<rennj>
core2duo at least?
<rennj>
i had nice core2duo asus with nvidia9300 i want to say, canada border crossing..stolen
<rennj>
never got my private property back
<rennj>
border guards got a craptop of mine, never returned it
<rennj>
how to lose investment money in 1 easy step
<rennj>
bet they didnt break the encryption on the harddrive
<Begasus>
Intel i5 here
<rennj>
triple digit model
<rennj>
i had corei5 560M or something at one point
<bronzie94>
Running OK on single core AMD Phenom II here 2.09Ghz with 1.7 Gb RAM. Also have 32bit running on Thinkpad with Pentium M and otherwise similar specs...
<rennj>
i had monster phenomII craptop also
<rennj>
dual 3GHz
<rennj>
space heater ate itself up
<jeremyf[m]>
Pentium 2020M dual-core, 4Go RAM extended to 8 here
<jessicah>
wow, core2duo, that's going back about a decade now?
<rennj>
r1/alpha3
<rennj>
phenom II N660
<rennj>
core2duo is more then decade
<bronzie94>
:)
<jessicah>
maybe 15 years
<jessicah>
I'd have to look it up
<jessicah>
I remember when they were the new hotness when I was working at uni
<bronzie94>
I had it running on 2011 MBP - dual HT i7, 8GB - was a dream, but poor driver support fot Wifi, sounds, video etc
<Begasus>
still have a big tower standing beside me with an +20 year old P4 ;)
<rennj>
another space heater
<Begasus>
not connected (could be power supply that's dead, didn't investigate after the first laptops arived :)
<bronzie94>
:)
<Begasus>
It was great running BeOS R5 :)
<bronzie94>
:)
<Begasus>
Soundblaster, NVidia ... 4 HD's ... need to pull them out one day to see what's still on there :P
<jessicah>
I remember the days of having to edit the BeOS kernel to run on maybe it was a P-III? to replace the string GenuineIntel with AuthenticAMD to work around a cpu instruction issue
<jessicah>
was the fix of the time
<jeremyf[m]>
It's a museum
<rennj>
yeah i still have to do that for beos vm under vmware
<rennj>
intel or amd baremetal
<rennj>
but vmware still needs it done
<Begasus>
could be a treasure in the hard drives who knows :)
<bronzie94>
I remember trialling BeOS on an old mac 7600 or something like that 1000 years ago ... A friend has compiled r% for an onld StarMax mac clone recently....
<bronzie94>
funny - I'm just going thrpugh old drives, CDs etc from the 90s until about 10 years ago to salvage memories and useful stuff :)
<Begasus>
... compiling the first SDL libraries ... then the first games :)
<Begasus>
good old BeBits days
<bronzie94>
I was not a heavy user back then - just experimented... But always found BeOS fascinating
<Begasus>
Even demo'd BeOS a few times back then ^^
<rennj>
software raid worked on beos anyway, videorecorder didnt drop too many frames
<jt15s[m]>
Would anyone be interested in designing logos/designs for Haiku's 20th Anniversary?
<Begasus>
I'm not a good artist on that jt15s[m] :)
<jt15s[m]>
<Begasus "I'm not a good artist on that jt"> Haha, no worries. I'll see if anyone else on here is interested :)
<jeremyf[m]>
Hey jt15s, hello
<jt15s[m]>
<jeremyf[m] "Hey jt15s, hello"> Hello!
<jeremyf[m]>
I wanted to contact to you
<rennj>
procedurally generated wallpaper and logo's a new one each time
<rennj>
oracle solaris 11.x has it for wallpaper i think
<bronzie94>
Re the 2nd image - very AmigaOS contols :)
<rennj>
yeah it was the amiga look on beos..
<rennj>
beos had like 4 different windowing styles for borders
<bronzie94>
jt15s[m]: yes - I am playing with doing backdrop wallpapers - interesting in logos too, but not sure how constrained by the style guide rules that is supposed to be
<bronzie94>
rennj: I have been plating with the "flat" design up on Depot, but it just crashes my machine, and could npot figure out how to hold my tongue
<jt15s[m]>
<bronzie94 "jt15s: yes - I am playing with d"> Ooh ok, well, I don't think there are really any constraints, just that it's preferable if you have it in an svg format exported to png and that it includes the Haiku logo in some form (don't modify or distort the actual logo though). Try to make it so that it's roughly the same size as our normal logo.
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<jt15s[m]>
<jeremyf[m] "I wanted to contact to you"> Oh ok. You could always send me a private message on the forums, but you're more than welcome to send me a private message through here as well.
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<bronzie94>
oops - what was that - just killed my client :)
<bronzie94>
:) - still have my a500, admittedly it is in the cupboard, and I need a new RGB -> VGA cable.... But some time soon ;)
<bronzie94>
hahaha begasus: Begasos Vista?
<bronzie94>
:)
<Begasus>
can't remember bronzie94 this one was from around 2008 :D
<bronzie94>
noice
<rennj>
xfce looks like
<rennj>
is that sdl game tux math
<bronzie94>
<jt15s[m]> " Ooh ok, well, I don't think there are really any constraints, just ..." : OK - I will keep that in mind and continue my playing with ideas :)
<Begasus>
yes rennj
<jt15s[m]>
<bronzie94 "<jt15s> " Ooh ok, well, I don't "> You're more than welcome to send your ideas either on here or in the Haiku Promotion room
<bronzie94>
rennj / begasus cool. It was in my "not using linux" period. Did in the very early days, then not really again until about 2015
<bronzie94>
jt15s[m]: thanks - I will :)
<Begasus>
Try'd out several other OS out there also bronzie94 , even bought a license for SkyOS back then
<Begasus>
lol, came accross a picture from stippi and mmu_man from BG19 :)
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<rennj>
heh skyos reads like morphos
<bronzie94>
oh wow. I've always been into "alternative" OSs - SkyOS looked interesting. I was always "Mac First" for home, whatever work threw at me for work (mostly windows on my desk, and sometimes some flavour of unix at the server end), and "played" with other things. But I am tryingto make Haiku into a viable daily driver (parallel with my Mac) - but also liking Zorin as a backup parallel....
<bronzie94>
rennj agreed re skyos. I seem to own a license or 2 to modern "Amiga derived" OSes, but never went past playing
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<rennj>
amithlon/amigaxl was $150 bucks and 1 month after release the lawsuit shut it down
<nephele[x]>
coldfirex: I can check the memory bug in a bit
<Coldfirex>
ok, so the problem still exists. thanks!
<nephele[x]>
i said i can check it, not that it does :P
<nephele[x]>
i'm the reporter of that bug
<Coldfirex>
memory issue? I was specifically referring to "Quick Tour still has the issue of the Index links not working after number 9. The URL changes from "quicktour.html#tile" to "quicktour.htm finished"."
<nephele[x]>
you commented on my bug about memory usage in webpositve, my comment that i can check the memory bug was in relation to that
<Coldfirex>
ah, mind was still on the quick tour thing :)
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<Coldfirex>
nm, it took a reboot for the quiktour to work. doh
<nephele[x]>
I wanted to test the beta3 but it seems i accidentally compiled myself to the nightly branch lol
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