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<waddlesplash> augiedoggie: you have an open ticket about your hardware?
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<mickenx> Hi
<mickenx> I have hacked the old VNCViewer to work on Haiku.. not release quality but getting there
<mickenx> things that doesn't work: encoding negotiation , proper redraw (doing Invalidate() now)
<mickenx> worst hack: The key event. When the keyevent struct is made char* for sending to server, the keysym field gets corrupted or stays zero if struct is zeroed. The only way that works for me is by memcpy the keysum into the char* buffer.
<mickenx> The struct is formed by 8 bytes , two fields with 1 byte 2 bytes padding and 4 bytes for keysym
<mickenx> I can set the keysym like this ke->key=key , I can print it and it is there in the debugger
<mickenx> so no idea why it doesnt end up in the char* buffer
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<augiedoggie> waddlesplash: i think there are already open tickets about it(UEFI and radeon_hd)
<mickenx> I wonder if there are any small pc's that works with haiku , like those from lenevo and haiku. I am currently running on my old c2d pc and a RV610 gfx board. I would fancy a new supported system.
<mickenx> from lenevo or asus *typo*
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<jenna16bit> *Lenovo ;-)
<mickenx> ah sorry
<jenna16bit> I don't know personally. The last version I tried froze on my laptop at boot sadly.
<mickenx> ok
<jenna16bit> But I have one in front of me, or I wouldn't even have known the spelling either hahaha
<waddlesplash> augiedoggie: Radeon is bypass able of course and use efi to get native res. EFI, what tickets apply to that?
<mickenx> I have a compatible laptop but the battery is dead
<augiedoggie> waddlesplash: i was just browsing tickets, i think my uefi problem is https://dev.haiku-os.org/ticket/17375
<repetitivestrain> augiedoggie: btw, did you succeed in removing libpng?
<repetitivestrain> because if it doesn't build that way, it's a bug we have to fix
<repetitivestrain> not just for haiku but for other platforms like MS-Windows and macOS where the native API is used for images
<augiedoggie> repetitivestrain: yes, it was a problem with my autoloads needing to be regenerated
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<augiedoggie> waddlesplash: but i can't do anything to get into the boot menu, i was thinking about attaching a serial adapter
<repetitivestrain> augiedoggie: nice, thanks for testing
<waddlesplash> mickenx: pretty sure agms already updated the vnc server himself
<waddlesplash> augiedoggie: not even spamming spacebar works? strange
<augiedoggie> i've tried several times
<mickenx> waddlesplash: This is the client I am talking about
<mickenx> or does the server also come with client?
<mickenx> waddlesplash: it doesnt , just tried a install
<mickenx> waddlesplash: there is krdc in depot but it doesn't send keyboard events at all , at least not when connecting to my linux box
<kallisti5[m]> i'm flipping on EFI bootloader signing in our nightly builds. Keep me posted if anyone runs into any issues
<kallisti5[m]> technically it really shouldn't impact you
<Not-c620> [haiku/infrastructure] kallisti5 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/haiku/infrastructure/compare/64571434531b...147f72efc490
<Not-c620> [haiku/infrastructure] kallisti5 147f72e - concourse: Flip on EFI signing in nightly builds
<rennj> signing for secure boot!
<rennj> the trust chain
<mickenx> waddlesplash: https://github.com/HaikuArchives/VNCViewer is the only one google reports , unless I am completely blind :) and it is that one I updated
<rennj> vncserver and vnclient you want both
<mickenx> yes
<rennj> course nx > vnc > rdp
<mickenx> I just can't find the vncclient
<rennj> i have it on beos im sure..
<mickenx> yes beos
<mickenx> beos == 32bit , right?
<rennj> tight/tiger vnc compile job
<rennj> tight vnc or tiger vnc...
<waddlesplash> mickenx: ask AGMS, he may know
<rennj> beos is 32bit yes
<rennj> vncviewer for beos..should run on haiku32bit anyway
<mickenx> waddlesplash: ok
<mickenx> I am on 64bit haiku
<rennj> beshare might have the client anyway
<mickenx> I just linked that , see above
<mickenx> :)
<mickenx> server
<rennj> should have the client also
<rennj> whats the point of just including one side of things
<rennj> vnc comes with both client/server...
<rennj> meh..idiotic
<mickenx> If I could med krdc to work , I would be happy to use that
<rennj> rdp ?
<mickenx> it supports vnc
<rennj> what is that kde crap?
<mickenx> look in haiku depot
<rennj> i see org.kde!
<rennj> yeah qt/kde swell
<rennj> bloatware all day long
<mickenx> and that is another reason why I want a native client
<rennj> nx > vnc > rdp
<rennj> i think x2go uses the nx3 freeware/opensauce
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<rennj> would probably be better waste of time
<mickenx> Why should I do that , I have my client that works for what I want , connecting to my x11vnc server
<rennj> i used it...tons
<rennj> nx has better performance
<mickenx> well , I am running a Xvfb server on my headless linux box.
<rennj> https://imgur.com/K4c4vBk vncviewer on amiga
<mickenx> so I need something that can "share" that
<rennj> vnc was nice like back in 1998
<mickenx> please
<rennj> and fuck m$ rdp
<rennj> but nx is suppose to be better than both
<rennj> VNC on 192.168.1.1:5901
<rennj> i had it on beos also
<rennj> meh..it deoends on settings really, how much it eats of network traffic/and looks correct...
<mickenx> please take your time to read the backlog
<rennj> what backlog
<mickenx> irc
<rennj> tight tigher real
<mickenx> I know about what worked on BeOS
<mickenx> I was using BeOS back in the days
<mickenx> I also know about amiga software , and pretty much all alternative platforms
<mickenx> I am normally running RISC OS and is a kernelhacker in RISC OS
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<mickenx> I got a little bit upset about a drama in the RISC OS community , so wanted to try out Haiku
<AlienSoldier> they have a current drama? Sorry i can't keep up with it :)
<mickenx> yea
<rennj> https://imgur.com/71UvqNC like that
<rennj> solaris and irix is over vnc
<rennj> see the vncviewer icon
<rennj> certainly not over x11
<mickenx> page doesen't work in WebPositive
<jenna16bit> to be fair, getting the whole irix desktop over x11 vs just an app is a pain
<mickenx> yes
<jenna16bit> huh this is beosso tthat's an old BeOS shot?
<rennj> yeah that opengl foo
<rennj> i.e. sun x11 without the opengl vs irix with the opengl
<jenna16bit> Yikes, Barrier with the keybounce. Sorry there.
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<stpere> hi
<jenna16bit> what up
<zakero> hello
<mickenx> Going get some sleep
<mickenx> waddlesplash: is AGMS on irc?
<mickenx> anyway zzzz
<mickenx> +++
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<AlienSoldier> hi stpere, long time i saw you
<stpere> yes indeed
<stpere> two kids ago I guess
<AlienSoldier> hehe
<AlienSoldier> back to haiku coding?
<stpere> unfortunately not yet, swamped with work, but I try to stay in touch
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<AlienSoldier> in the swamp myself but i decided the rat race is enough this year. I will work 1 week on 2 from august, i will thinker about the loss of income after.
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<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] korli pushed 1 commit to master [hrev55898] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=4e151bc30932+%5Eda6065015f86
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 4e151bc30932 - UserSetupEnvironment.sample: Correct comment instructions
<Anarchos> hello
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<Anarchos> It seems my sysreq key is not recognized anymore , so i can't provoke a kdl...
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<Anarchos> what is the naming scheme for packages ? is it debian or freebsd ?
<nephele> no, it's based on gentoo
<Anarchos> nephele ok thanks
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<mickenx> Hi
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<micken> #haiku added to screen session :)
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<micken> current state of VNCViewer (my version) https://github.com/mickenx/VNCViewer
<micken> A bit messy code in some places
<micken> waddlesplash: how can I contact the person you mentioned, sorry for quiting last night
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<Anarchos> hello folks !
<Not-c620> [haikuports/haikuports] korli pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-1/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/111e9942f3bc...5c534d669e41
<Not-c620> [haikuports/haikuports] extrowerk 5c534d6 - libopenMPT: bump (#6634)
<waddlesplash> micken: AGMS hangs out on BeShare which is bridged to this channel via the B2IA bot
<Anarchos> waddlesplash did you notice the SysReq disappeard from Keymap, which prevents me to enter kdl by hand ?
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<waddlesplash> Anarchos: no?
<waddlesplash> I can still enter KDL via shortcuts
<Anarchos> waddlesplash my sysreq is indeed a Fn+'Home arrow' combination on my keyboard. it doesn't seem to work to go into kdl
<waddlesplash> ah. yeah, that may well be the case
<waddlesplash> did it used to work?
<Anarchos> waddlesplash i can't remember if it did.
<Anarchos> is'n't it a cli application to launch kdl ?
<waddlesplash> there's one, yes, but the keyboard shortcut goes directly through the kernel and not anything in userland
<Anarchos> waddlesplash what is the name of the cli app ?
<waddlesplash> kernel_debugger
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<B2IA> (AGMS) Cool, micken is working on a VNCViewer update for Haiku. The BeOS one mostly worked, but was somewhat flakey. But then I did the VNCServer for BeOS and Haiku, based on VNC 4.0 code, but I always used a viewer on a different OS.
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<B2IA> (AGMS) micken, if you want to see my fixes to the VNC 4.0 source code, have a look at https://github.com/agmsmith/VNC-4.0-BeOS-Server
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<micken> I see
<micken> AGMS: I am running everything that doesn't exist on alternative systems like skype etc in a x11vnc/Xvfb session on my headless linuxbox. So for me it is quite essential to have a vnc client. The old BeOS version doesn't build without patching and didn't work out of the box.
<micken> AGMS: I am happy with what I use now ( the hacked BeOS VNCViewer), but I will continue working with it to get it to releasable state
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<Not-c620> [haiku/website] humdingerb pushed 2 commits to master [+0/-0/±2] https://github.com/haiku/website/compare/8b6ab56a3ebf...2c07130b061e
<Not-c620> [haiku/website] humdingerb 7eb2ab1 - Remove link to "Software Depot"
<Not-c620> [haiku/website] humdingerb 2c07130 - Add link to BeSly's HW Database to FAQ
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<Not-c620> [haikuports/haikuports] korli pushed 11 commits to master [+13/-14/±3] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/5c534d669e41...1791655bca76
<Not-c620> [haikuports/haikuports] korli d542a0e - pytest-mock: new recipe
<Not-c620> [haikuports/haikuports] korli 1675515 - asciidoc: bump version
<Not-c620> [haikuports/haikuports] korli 34dce7b - flac: bump version
<Not-c620> [haikuports/haikuports] ... and 8 more commits.
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<humdinger> Thanks to augiedoggie QuickLaunch gained a new option that needs translations.
<humdinger> You can help out at https://i18n.kacperkasper.pl/projects/4 Thanks!
* humdinger is idle: BRB
<Not-c620> [haikuports/haikuports] korli pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/1791655bca76...39e953f4686f
<Not-c620> [haikuports/haikuports] korli 39e953f - ffmpeg: enable version on x86
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<Not-c620> [haikuports/haikuports] korli pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/39e953f4686f...04a198074d8c
<Not-c620> [haikuports/haikuports] korli 04a1980 - musicpc: with buildtype
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<Not-c620> [haikuports/haikuports] korli pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/04a198074d8c...4e1a17f59f6c
<Not-c620> [haikuports/haikuports] korli 4e1a17f - nodejs14: disable on x86
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<Niklas[m]> I just found some time to look into my obscure issues with my Weather replicant again,and now I'm more confused than before...
<Niklas[m]> Shelfer logs the message "Request completed" whenever an HTTPS request finishes,but that doesn't come from my code.It doesn't happen when I open the app directly and that log text is defined nowhere in my code.Also,for my replicant it looks like the request failed,but when I open it as a normal application,it works.I added some printf functions to the code to (hopefully) get more or less useful debugging information,but it isn't logged when
<Niklas[m]> running in Shelfer.The only thing it ever logs is "Request completed" and I have no idea where that comes from.My printf statements are logged,however,when running Weather as a normal application.
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<Anarchos> i have two programs communicating through a local socket. One is blocked on cvar 'tcp send' and the other on cvar 'tcp receive'. How is it possible ??
<micken> Is it possible to disable edid? My monitor provides information that my gfxboard can't handle
<micken> So I need to startup with monitor disconnected
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<Niklas[m]> I found and solved my issues with the replicant.It was this one: https://discuss.haiku-os.org/t/debugging-a-replicant/4410/4
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<B2IA> (AGMS) micken, looking forward to seeing a better VNCClient for Haiku!
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<micken> AGMS: thanks , I do too. :)
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