<brian_>
I tried 3 machines bare metal third was the charm then I updated the system and got a dump after rebooting
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<ablyss>
try typing 'continue' after the dump. sometimes let's you back in.
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<zdykstra>
What was it crashing on? You can boot in safe mode and disable various things.
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<netpositive>
x512[m]: in my case it seems like app_server couldn't keep up with redraw needs, it lags. when i'm moving windows there are "ghost" windows behind them
<zdykstra>
that's built into the ISO, but it's not installed by default when you actually install Haiku
<AmitTripathi[m]>
can you come on google meet please
<zdykstra>
.... no
<AmitTripathi[m]>
ok no problem
<AmitTripathi[m]>
I just wanted to show the process I am using.
<zdykstra>
create a 100MB partition at the start of your disk, format it fat32 and then mount it and the ISO's ESP, then copy the 'BOOT' folder to your new ESP
<AmitTripathi[m]>
what is ESP ?
<zdykstra>
EFI system partition
<zdykstra>
make sure it's a partition type of ef00
<andreasdr[m]>
Hi, question. I saw this one repository that provides a Dark Theme including Flat Dark Theme Decorator.
<andreasdr[m]>
Are there any plans to integrate this into Haiku or make it available as pkgman package?
<waddlesplash>
it already is
<andreasdr[m]>
Because this looks sooooo sexy.
<waddlesplash>
in the haiku_extras package
<andreasdr[m]>
Wow. Thats amazing. Will try. Sadly no new users will understand that this is in haiku_extras.
<andreasdr[m]>
Thank you.
<humdinger>
it would help if the description of the package were better. It could even list the contents...
<andreasdr[m]>
Yes. Good point humdinger
<humdinger>
haiku_extra users may send a PR to haikuports.
<andreasdr[m]>
I always try to set up Dark Theme after installing the ThemeManager/Themes package. But its not there. Now I know I need to install haiku_extras.
<waddlesplash>
humdinger: it's not at haikuports
<waddlesplash>
it's in the main haiku tree
<humdinger>
oh. I assumed...
<humdinger>
prooves the old saying then, I guess
<andreasdr[m]>
But it must be installed by "pkgman" right?
<andreasdr[m]>
Will try later today. Need to work first.
<andreasdr[m]>
I love my Haiku in dark theme <3 <3 <3
<humdinger>
gotta run
* humdinger
waves
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* zdykstra
downloads ~25,000 mail messages
<AmitTripathi[m]>
one question? I just know frontend development(html, css, js, react) and little bit c++, java
<AmitTripathi[m]>
Well, a operating system is a very complex thing, like maybe there are hardly any areas which I can contribute
<nosycat>
Haiku needs help in all areas. Not all involve writing code.
<nosycat>
Over the weekend I talked to a very nice person who specialized in building and packaging 3rd-party apps and libraries for Haiku.
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<andreasdr[m]>
Nice.
<nosycat>
I was directed to try out apps and leave ratings+comments. Sure enough, I found one with issues.
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<zdykstra>
does mail_daemon log anywhere? I'm not seeing any obvious way to enable logging, and nothing is hitting /var/log/syslog.
<AmitTripathi[m]>
Like I can contribute in any area, and still be selected for GSOC
<AmitTripathi[m]>
s/selected/considered/
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<AmitTripathi[m]>
* Like I can contribute in any area, and still be considered for GSOC ?
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<nosycat>
Ah, dunno about that. There should be rules written somewhere.
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<PulkoMandy>
No one knows every part of the OS. And yes, there are GSoC projects that don't touch haiku sourcecode at all
<zdykstra>
welp, that sucks. Having "Remove mail from server when deleted" enabled by default is a bad bad default.
<zdykstra>
I just deleted every e-mail I have in my gmail account.
<nosycat>
Yikes.
<PulkoMandy>
Don't trust a beta phase OS with your data…
<zdykstra>
no way to stop this either, as near as I can tell
<zdykstra>
gmail is just churning through my inbox, deleting thousands of messages
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<badkeming[m]>
holy crap
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<win8linux[m]>
Does Mail have an archive function?
<waddlesplash>
zdykstra: it's got a log window that you can open. don't remember how to get to it
<waddlesplash>
you can kill mail_daemon, of course, that should stop it
<waddlesplash>
not sure if it's a bad default or not. What does Thunderbird do here?
<zdykstra>
thunderbird doesn't let you drag and drop your entire mail folder of 3 e-mail accounts to the trash, with out any prompting or warning :P
<botifico>
[haikuports/haikuports] Begasus d54e362 - gulrak_filesystem, new recipe (#7865)
<Begasus>
Hi nosycat !
<nosycat>
How are you?
<Begasus>
Fine, going through emails and forum posts (and some PR's at haikuports atm)
<Begasus>
You?
<nosycat>
I was just telling someone about your packaging work.
<Begasus>
Hope you didn't scare them :)
<nosycat>
Me too!
<Begasus>
Anyway, if someone needs assistance I'm willing to help on how to create recipes for haikuports, once you get a hang on it it's not that hard :)
<nosycat>
Thank you!
<Begasus>
Some of us here have been participating in GCI for some years as mentors, I learned a lot from them that I was able to pass on to others :)
<Begasus>
Only thing is time :)
<nosycat>
Right, someone new to Haiku has a lot to catch up with, but it's only natural.
<AmitTripathi[m]>
<PulkoMandy> "No one knows every part of the..." <- Thanks for the information :)
<Begasus>
heh
<Begasus>
waddlesplash, any chance on supporting RTL8822CE on Haiku?
<waddlesplash>
probably not
<waddlesplash>
neither freebsd nor openbsd support it and I don't really want to spend time on individual chipsets
<Begasus>
bugger, state of the art laptop and no wifi ;)
<nosycat>
Mood.
<Begasus>
some packages already exist at /var/buildmaster/haikuports/packages, revision bump required (for gulrak_filesystem on buildmaster, afaik there wasn't/isn't one before the merge)
<Begasus>
heading out again, cu peeps!
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<nosycat>
Me too. Bye!
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<matt1>
hello
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<botifico>
[haikuports/haikuports] davidkaroly fc43fcb - openssl: update to 1.1.1t (#7875)
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<zdykstra>
hey, on the plus side - Haiku helped me achieve 'Inbox Zero' for the first time in years and years
<win8linux[m]>
lmao
<win8linux[m]>
😂
<win8linux[m]>
Haiku: The fastest way to reach Inbox Zero
<zdykstra>
is WebPositive able to remember website login credentials, or is that a pending feature?
<waddlesplash>
nope
<zdykstra>
on a Linux system I'd use 'pass' to store credentials / retrieve them - is there a Haiku equivalent for that workflow ?
<zdykstra>
(
<zdykstra>
(I'm trying to use Haiku full-time for work, but remembering credentials to a dozen internal websites is painful)
<waddlesplash>
there's the keystore, but it's not actually encrypted on disk at present
<waddlesplash>
"keystore" command, or used by default from some programs (e.g. WPA passwords)
<waddlesplash>
probably better to use KeePassX or a password manager from Web
<zdykstra>
I looked for a password manager in Web but couldn't find it, is there one?
<waddlesplash>
I think it does save passwords when you sign in to sites, or offers to
<waddlesplash>
(I never use in-browser password managers)
<zdykstra>
it offers, but doesn't seem to be functional
<waddlesplash>
probably the same problem as firefox sync then
<zdykstra>
I assume that's because it actually uses a gnome service
<zdykstra>
(epiphany:6678): epiphany-WARNING **: 14:31:59.895: Failed to search secrets in password schema: Cannot spawn a message bus when AT_SECURE is set
<zdykstra>
yawp
<waddlesplash>
what does that message even mean
<waddlesplash>
oh
<waddlesplash>
probably this is because it's runing as uid 0?
<zdykstra>
the actual message when trying to store a password is slightly different, but it's still because it can't spawn a message bus because AT_SECURE is set
<zdykstra>
not that it matters, because it'd require dbus + a registered password store service
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<andreasdr>
haiku_extra contains the decorator code and such
<andreasdr>
But not the theme colors
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<waddlesplash>
AGMS, are you around?
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<andreasdr>
Hi which debugger should be used with a nightly? installed gdb
<andreasdr>
But it shows
<waddlesplash>
just Debugger
<andreasdr>
Dwarf Error: wrong version in compilation unit header (is 4, should be 2) [in module /boot/home/Development/drewke.net/tdme2/lib/libtdme2-ext.so]
<waddlesplash>
the only gdb is a really old version which doesn't quite work anymore
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<waddlesplash>
I see you have a file called "OpenBeOS_2002-06-28.zip" in your BeShare, but it looks too small to have CVS history, and I can't seem to download anything from your server anyway
<B2IA>
(AGMS) open-beos-cvsroot 20020709 before old revision history lost.tar.gz
<waddlesplash>
:O
<B2IA>
(AGMS) But it's only 7MB.
<waddlesplash>
that's probably about right actually
<waddlesplash>
I think the full tree uncompressed was 11MB
<waddlesplash>
at least I saw some mailing list comments indicating such
<andreasdr>
Cool. Found out why GL3CoreRenderer was not working and crashing under Haiku.
<andreasdr>
It does not like the query for BC7 texture compression.
<B2IA>
(AGMS) waddlesplash, putting it on my FTP server...
<waddlesplash>
:D
<OscarL>
Not sure how to feel about reading "CVS" and "openbeos" in the same sentence, and actually having done some CVS checkouts around that time :-/
<B2IA>
(AGMS) Nice distraction down memory lane, now back to getting Steam set up under Linux on my new laptop, which has dual video systems, one which can do 3D if you can turn it on.
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