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<Sark>
Hello guys. How
<Sark>
s it going?
<Sark>
Gah. Can't even type this morning ;)
<Begasus>
'lo Sark
<Sark>
Hello!
<Sark>
Been a while since I had the chance to do much with Haiku, trying to get back to it and my machine won't boot. The universe doesn't like me, it seems :P
<Sark>
I just wrote the latest nightly build to a disk and tried to boot that, it crashes to a kdebug prompt that I can't type at.
<Sark>
Trying to figure out how best to recover the machine. It'll boot from it's hard disk and get to the Haiku logo screen, eventually after a lot of disk access get to the end of the icons - sometimes I get a solid white screen with no text, sometimes it just hangs there.
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<Begasus>
haven't tried booting latest nightlies for a while here
<Sark>
Is there a recovery image available I can try booting from?
<Begasus>
the nightly image is as good a recovery one as it can be I guess?
<Sark>
It crashes with "PANIC: did not find any boot partitions!"
<Sark>
Maybe I can try a different nightly.
<Begasus>
tried with the beta?
<Sark>
I can't, the image is too big and I don't have media I can use for that right now.
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<Sark>
I mean, as it is the nightly image is about 2MB bigger than what I have available so that could be why it won't boot, if it actually needs something that happens to be at the very end of the media. lol
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<Begasus>
bugger ... can't win them all, guess akonadi needs more patching to be usefull :P
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<Sark>
Well, all the nightly builds I've tried booting crash the same way. I might have to go out and buy a flash drive or something to see if I can get this machine booted. I tried booting with shift held down from the hard disk but that doesn't get me anywhere. Still just gives me the Haiku logo screen, icons, etc but hangs or crashes.
<BrunoSpr>
Buying a flash drive may not work as you have been able to reach Haiku logo with icons
<BrunoSpr>
Give as much specs as possible about your hardware
<Sark>
I mean, this machine *was* running just fine for a long time, it's just been sitting shut off for several months, not really sure why it won't boot - possible it wasn't shut down cleanly the last time and the filesystem got corrupted.
<BrunoSpr>
ah ok I see
<BrunoSpr>
so you try to use the flash drive to get your data from the main pc
<augiedoggie>
it's better to use the space key when trying to get to the boot menu
<Sark>
Well, I just wanted to boot into Haiku something to see if I can check the filesystem and/or figure out why it won't boot.
<Sark>
space? I didn't know that. The docs said shift.
<Sark>
Let me try that.
<augiedoggie>
shift only works for bios/mbr booting
<augiedoggie>
space works for that and EFI
<Begasus>
I always hammer the space-bar :)
<Begasus>
(if need be)*
<Sark>
Ah! Space worked. Trying safe mode.
<Sark>
And of course, looking back at the docs it does mention spacebar for UEFI booting... I honestly didn't see that before (also, I was pretty sure I was using MBR booting as it was)
<Sark>
Hrm, safe mode does the same thing, white screen
<Sark>
But, now that I can get into the boot menu I have more things to try.
<BrunoSpr>
go back to previous Haiku hrev
<augiedoggie>
if it's really booting with EFI then you may need to update the loader, but i don't think you would get that far into the boot if that was the problem
<Sark>
This box *was* running Beta 4.
<Sark>
I tried three different nightly builds but none of them boot. Again it could be because it actually needs something on the last two megs of the media that I can't write because I run out of space.
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<BrunoSpr>
if you get into the boot menu try to boot into previous hrevs
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<BrunoSpr>
hello all, I ask for Blake1024 at our discussion forum: *** Failed to download package intel_wifi_firmwares: Connection refused
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<Anarchos>
hello
<Anarchos>
i just ported interlisp/medley, but it needs an X server to run. Is it possible to make it run with Xlibe ?
<Sark>
That would be amazing if so - if Haiku had an X server I could use Haiku for just about everything since I could connect to the other stuff over the network. I don'tknow though, but that's a good question. I'll keep my fingers crossed for you :)
<Anarchos>
Sark why an X server to connect to other stuff on the network ? app_server does it natively with RemoteDesktop !
<jmairboeck>
Anarchos: you could try using xlibe
<Anarchos>
and ssh for text terminal connections
<Anarchos>
jmairboeck will go for it
<Anarchos>
jmairboeck do you have a tutorial link ?
<Sark>
But what would it connect to on the other end with Remote Desktop? I don't have anything that supports that protocol. I guess other Haiku machines?
<Anarchos>
yes other Haiku machines
<Sark>
That's the problem, I'd want to connect to other PCs so I can run stuff that Haiku can't.
<augiedoggie>
iirc, waddlesplash still hasn't figured out why Xnest won't run properly
<Anarchos>
augiedoggie what is xnest ?
<augiedoggie>
a nested X server, it would allow Haiku to display remote X applications
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<Anarchos>
jmairboeck i can't find anymore the waddlesplash's article about xlibe
<Sark>
Anarchos: I was referring to hardware - I have a lot of hardware that runs the Lisp environment natively (or semi netively) in various states of disrepair or not set up.
<Anarchos>
Sark i read advice to put it in fridge but be careful and don't trust any advice on disk revovery !!
<Sark>
Projects I want to get to but never can seem to get to because a thousand other things get in the way. Even stupid things like "ooh, I want to set up my Haiku machine again" don't go well.
<Sark>
This is an SSD.
<Sark>
So the "make the hard drive cold" trick doesn't work. At least, I don't think it will.
<Sark>
Turns out, you can't let an SSD sit, unpowered, the data will start to fade.
<Anarchos>
Sark a repair technician told me that ssd becomes slow when they are fading away...
<Sark>
I did not know that. I do now. I have two different drives right now that are fading like that, similar age. Both purchased new and barely used, the one has less than 100 power on hours
<Anarchos>
Sark good to know
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<zard>
Hello
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<coolcoder613_mac>
Hello zard
<coolcoder613_mac>
Have you seen my thread on the forum about my raspi tablet?
<zard>
Yes, not too bad :)
<zard>
It's always nice to see such off-topic threads on the forum