<nephele>
do you know who maintains the qt6 stuff?
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<Begasus>
nephele, does it behave the same with default layout (not the theme colors)?
<nephele>
I only know about the qt5 haikuplugins 3deyes maintains
<nephele>
not sure what you mean with default layout
<Begasus>
3dEyes pushed something there iirc not that long ago
<Begasus>
nephele, eg not the color sheme
<Begasus>
sheme/scheme? :)
<nephele>
yes, apart from the colors I've changed I don't know what you mean :(
<nephele>
qt does not use any of haikus layouting code, it only renders controls by directly calling into the controllook
<Begasus>
The difference here beeing the "Go down" button looking wierdly pixelated, as if scaled up with the wrong color. and also the control on the right loosing it's "custom" look and now just looking like a standard slider control, which it isn't.
<Begasus>
that shows the same if you haven't changed theme/appearance colors?
<Begasus>
ps, Qt6 updated 2 weeks ago
<nephele>
That has nothing to do with the colors
<nephele>
one version is qt5 the other is qt6
<Begasus>
ah k :)
<Begasus>
don't have a matrix account, so can't realy check things out there
<nephele>
If you want one for testing I can get you one rather easily by asking nico
<nephele>
(he is the author of nheko)
<Begasus>
yes, would be nice, even if it's just for testing
<Begasus>
converted to draft and linked the issue there
<Begasus>
grabbing Arch torrent to test with QtEmu later :)
<nephele>
I've asked nico, will let you know once he responds
<Begasus>
thanks! if I'm not around, you got my email address right? (shouldn't be that hard to fine anyway) :)
<Begasus>
dogschool in the morning
<nephele>
why does system update want to install dbus and noto color emoji? .-.
<nephele>
ugh, it's because of that stupid nheko update
<nephele>
please remove the fonts and dbus requirements >:(
<nephele>
Don't have your email adress I don't think?
<Begasus>
haven't touched anything there :)
<Begasus>
can be found in patches :)
<nephele>
no, but there was this nheko PR with this terribleness I was unable to review because of githubs terrible interface
<Begasus>
switched Otter with Angelfish local, so far (aside the crashes) works a lot better
<nephele>
nheko only uses dbus for notifications, those should just be patched to use our native api instead. and there is no justification for the fonts
<Begasus>
yeah, aware of that :/
<Begasus>
nothing I pushed in regards of the fonts, not much respond on the issue (or the open PR for the CJK ones)
<nephele>
No, i mean that the nheko port explicitly depends on noto color emoji, a font we do not support
<Begasus>
ah
<nephele>
also, it explicitly depends on noto emoji, whichi is a *
<nephele>
*different* font
<nephele>
and it should not depend on this either
<nephele>
if anything Haiku should depend on this, not some random chat apps.
<Begasus>
right, so both the fonts and dbus should be removed there?
<nephele>
I think so, yeah.
<nephele>
it's not like a library or anything but rather a server that runs the entire time and makes shutdowns take way longer, if it actually was somewhat competent I could understand it
<nephele>
brb rebooting
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<Begasus>
one of the reasons I'm not packaging Angelfish for the public (yet), it depends on dbus-launch (that I launch manualy for now)
<Begasus>
in't dbus a KDE thing rather then Qt?
<nephele>
you are using a webrowser for mobile devices on Haiku?
<Begasus>
it's fast! :D
<Begasus>
but yes
<nephele>
dbus is a system services that enabled many<->many interprocess communications on linux "desktop"
<nephele>
clients of it register a "name" on the bus, and then other apps can send messages to the bus to those names
<nephele>
it's a bit similar to how it works with BMessages, in a sense, but works a bit worse, and also because clients need to announce their presense as broadcasts it is prone to use too much cpu ressources
<Begasus>
with the amount of apps installed here, I can't tell which one launched it to start with :D
<nephele>
a service that is restarted and keeps crashing gets amplified by dbus
<nephele>
would be funky if i can get webpositive good enough that you just can keep using that ;)
<Begasus>
oh, I'm still using Web+ too
<x512[m]>
DBus have fundamental design problems such as resource leaks and race conditions.
<x512[m]>
Haiku Application Kit also have design problems such as lack of ownership tracking and race conditions.
<Begasus>
but like gitlab/gmail/youtube doesn't run that good there
<nephele>
(funny, those are all sites I wouldn't use anyway... :P)
<nephele>
x512[m]: I saw your ticket aboud app_server deadlock
<Begasus>
don't really care for youtube, but it's nice to see it working (even playing fullscreen) :)
<nephele>
I wonder if we can add tracking for ownership properly, or maybe even do something like openBSD pledge adapted for our purposes
<x512[m]>
Not only that.
<nephele>
(e.g something like net_server can not read the filesystem)
<x512[m]>
There are no reference counting mechanism for BHandler.
<nephele>
I haven't looked too much into design problems of the application kit
<Begasus>
k, no issues launching nheko without those three in the recipe
<nephele>
Maybe you can do a bit of a writeup? would be interesting if we can redesign it partially to fix those issues right off the bat before R1 opens the door to actors looking to exploit those
<Begasus>
extra_cmake_modules? in nheko
<nephele>
that should only be for building?
<Begasus>
yeah, it's there, but needed?
<nephele>
I think it is, but I am not sure
<nephele>
I guess you can remove it and test if you want to optimize this
<Begasus>
I'm not seeing it mentioned in BUILD ...
<Begasus>
those are used in the KDE recipes needing it (and not finding it)
<Begasus>
dogs .... :)
<nephele>
Personally I am not *that* concerned since runtime deps are more visible to me, and builds with haikuports are not that geared to efficiency anyway
<Begasus>
guess it depends there nephele, I usualy start out in Terminal, gives me a first indication on what is searched for/is needed, then I start with a (generic) blank recipe and fill in the gaps as they appear :)
<Begasus>
reading makefiles/cmakefiles etc can help too, oh and 'sometime' I check on how other OS's declare their runtime dependencies :P
<Begasus>
/boot/system/develop/tools/bin/../lib/gcc/x86_64-unknown-haiku/13.2.0/../../../../x86_64-unknown-haiku/bin/ld: cannot find -lz: No such file or directory
<Begasus>
that indicates libz is missing (to start with)
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<Begasus>
-- Checking for modules 'gstreamer-sdp-1.0>=1.18;gstreamer-webrtc-1.0>=1.18'
<Begasus>
now there is "gstreamer${secondaryArchSuffix}_devel" in the recipe, should be replaced with the actual library names
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<Begasus>
afk
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<humdinger>
Now I'm really through with it, provided you don't find anything amiss... :)
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<Begasus>
sec
<Begasus>
should be done humdinger :)
<Begasus>
doing something else atm :)
<Anarchos>
Begasus my point is i still have not the Desktop :D
<Begasus>
ah lol Anarchos
<humdinger>
Begasus: thanks! more important is you working with the latest version. I should've postponed the last 0.3.0 release and wait until I put all the usability tweaks in...
<humdinger>
I can provide a reaady built 64bit version
<botifico>
[haikuports/haikuports] Begasus a03b442 - nlohmann_json, bump version (#9774)
<Begasus>
building it will be fast enough here humdinger :)
<humdinger>
still. time I could save you :)
<Anarchos>
Begasus qemu logs 53 packages "first boot processing". My generated/download folder has 155 packages....
<Begasus>
154 packages here Anarchos
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<Begasus>
humdinger, doesn't show the translation when I put in the new exported one ...
<humdinger>
it should... let me check.
<humdinger>
stupid epiphany is acting up..
<Begasus>
works fine in Angelfish :P
<Begasus>
or Otter :)
<humdinger>
seems to produce a million WebKit processes that eat my system...
<humdinger>
^Epiphany
<Begasus>
Didn't do the trick for me (Epiphany)
<Begasus>
too bloated? :P
<nephele>
humdinger: had that same issue
<humdinger>
worked in nthe past. I updated the system this morning. maybe some update is messed up.
<humdinger>
guess I'll have to try Mr otter again...
<Begasus>
I haven't pushed any weird stuff lately ;)
<humdinger>
ok. new translations work here... I just put the new nl.catkeys into sources/locales, make, make bindcatalogs. works when I set the locale to Dutch...
<Anarchos>
Begasus pacakge #81 :) end is nearer
<Begasus>
I used the recipe to pull everrything humdinger (and cp'd the catkey to the locale foler)
<Begasus>
ah lol
<Begasus>
why isn't make bindcatalogs in the recipe?
<humdinger>
BTW, would you prefer to have the diffed file names as a row above the left/right panes, or is it as window title OK?
<Begasus>
missing a string humdinger ... Green indicates added lines.
<humdinger>
someone (me...) forgot to put it in there...
<Begasus>
that's fine for me humdinger
<Begasus>
as it is*
<Begasus>
ah, missed that line :)
<humdinger>
OK then. If you don't find issues with it or have more easily to implement stuff, we can ask for more translations and squeeze out 0.4.0 next week.
<humdinger>
then we'll even include those translations... }
<Begasus>
doing things fast isn't always a good idea :P
<Begasus>
OK, got it now, good enough for me humdinger, thanks again!
<humdinger>
:)
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<Anarchos>
Begasus pacakge #111 :)
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