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<Tramtrist>
ah looking at the update today i tohught we might have got microphone support 😭
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<chaos_princess>
soontm, really soontm :P
<Tramtrist>
🥳
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<chaos_princess>
how soon - we are now in a "i am comfortable with giving an eta" phase, and let's say less than 2 weeks
<Tramtrist>
I didnt ask!! but thank you 💗
<j`ey>
chaos_princess: :o
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<Tramtrist>
ive mentioned it before but i swear there is power consumption and heat tweaks goin on that arent being publicized
<Tramtrist>
my m2 air is ice cold when it didnt used to be before and my suspend battery is lasting much longer annecdotally
<Tramtrist>
also i cant spell anything
<chaos_princess>
there is no power consumption tweaks happening, all you are seeing is random effects
<Tramtrist>
OK
<Tramtrist>
i guess randomness is with me
<chaos_princess>
i have some ideas on how to make it use less power, but rn that specific branch shuts down blocks that are actually being used by accident
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<chadmed>
Tramtrist: if you were using tuned, marcan recently patched it to make it do the right thing
<chadmed>
other than that, nothings changed since i did the EAS stuff like 3 years ago lol
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<the_eye>
does anyone have any pointers on how to use a us-intl keyboard layout (the one that uses right-alt as the modifier) on MacBook Pro? I set the layout correctly in Plasma (I think) but neither right option nor right command seem to act as alt-gr
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* nicolas17
checks web log, remembers why Soni is in ignore
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<Soni>
why do you let upstream sabotage you
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<Soni>
we suppose we should instead be asking: what are you gonna do about upstream sabotaging you?
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<abby>
it's not sabotage unless it's from the sabot region of france
<maz>
I think clogification would have a nice ring to it.
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<blueteeth>
hey guys
<blueteeth>
so is asahi dead now?
<blueteeth>
i guess only marcan was able to upbring new cpus like M3/M4?
<abby>
did you read the blog post where it mentioned *7* other people leading the project?
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<chaos_princess>
blueteeth: yup. pack it up, sell your m-series gear and use it to move to x86, everyone is done now :P
<blueteeth>
thx i thought that
<blueteeth>
so sad!
<blueteeth>
i hope i still get some money on ebay for it
<maz>
in my utmost generosity, I'll buy the now useless HW from you at a symbolic $/£/€...
<blueteeth>
the new intel mobile chips are supposed to be great, performance and battery life wise
<blueteeth>
can sobody recommend a good model?
<chaos_princess>
if you are fast enough, you'll be able to sell it before everyone else also dumps it and crashes the price
<blueteeth>
would be great if it had similiar performance to my m1 macbook air
<blueteeth>
has somebody experience with asusbook zenbook 14?
<blueteeth>
abby: sorry i missed your post! only marcan or lina did m1/m2 upbringing, if i remember the streams correctly. i doubt anyone else could do it, i guess you would need the hacking and jailbreak experience marcan had with all the wii/playstation stuff
<Calandracas_>
when linus retires, are we all gonna pack it up and move back to windows?
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<abby>
hurd should be out by then
<chaos_princess>
blueteeth: turning the troll mode off for a bit, there are actual dev branches that can boot on m3 and initialize some hw
<blueteeth>
calandracas_: i think linux has a 2nd in command gregh
<blueteeth>
i think it will continue after linus dies
<blueteeth>
i read an article that linus actually does not do any actual programming work nowadays
<blueteeth>
only management stuff
<blueteeth>
and i guess you can find managers everywhere
<blueteeth>
chaos_princess: yeah i do not know sorry, but i think now they will not be finished? maybe marcan started them a while back?
<blueteeth>
m3 is old now
<blueteeth>
even m4 is
<blueteeth>
m5 incoming soon
<blueteeth>
so if somebody could recommend a similiar intel/amd notebook to macbook m1 i would be very happy
<chaos_princess>
those are not from him but from randos (no offsense, just the general relation to the rest of the project), so there are more than 1 person capable of doing it
<blueteeth>
battery life and silent is very important to me
<blueteeth>
chaos_princess: but they are not working right now right? so i think everybody can try, but only a few selected people can pull if off fully
<chaos_princess>
sure
<blueteeth>
i do not know how marcan does it, he does more work when streaming in 10 hours than i could in 100 years
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<blueteeth>
so can anybody recommend a good x86 notebook? maybe asahi could be ported to it?
<j`ey>
asahi is about the Mseries SoCs so that doesnt make sense
<abby>
blueteeth: book8088
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<Calandracas_>
blueteeth, have you considered a pppowerbook?
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<nicolas17>
blueteeth: I can't even tell if you're being serious
<blueteeth>
i always did what marcan told me on reddit, so you can count his posts to know it
<blueteeth>
i read on phoronix that marcan had to quit asahi linux because linux torvalds told him he should stop, is that true? i am sorry for marcan that his friend betrayed him
<nicolas17>
no that is completely false
<nicolas17>
did you read marcan's blog post?
<chaos_princess>
i would suggest picking a Mediaworkstations a-X2P. Much better performance than any apple product, and no need to bother with batteries
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<blueteeth>
thank you! i checked it out but i need a mobile laptop with screen. i use it on the plane much
<nicolas17>
maybe that phoronix post was also sarcasm and you misunderstood it? lol
<chaos_princess>
it has a screen, even multiple of them. And last time i was on a plane, there were power sockets even in economy class
<blueteeth>
i fast read marcan blog, but it sounds that Linux was mean to him and that is because he quit
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<blueteeth>
not everyone is nice but i dont think you should quit because of that, you cant do anything about that, you need to learn to ignore bad people and just do your thing
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<nicolas17>
you don't seem to know the difference between "linus" and "linux" and I have to wonder if you're trolling on purpose
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<blueteeth>
you can write nicolas or nicolaz, both is correct so i dont see the problem?
<nicolas17>
Linux is the kernel, Linus is the person who created it
<nicolas17>
so then marcan complains about the Linux developer community and you seem to think it's about Linus Torvalds personally
<blueteeth>
marcan wrote that linus is a major failure in his blog
<blueteeth>
you should read marcan blog post
<nicolas17>
I'd say "plonk" but you definitely won't know what that means
<maz>
dftt
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<Tramtrist>
😢
<blueteeth>
i think now maybe you guys were so mean to marcan and that is why he quit
<blueteeth>
he is not so strong
<blueteeth>
you should be nice to him
<blueteeth>
and here, he wrote on the blog: " consider Linus handling a major failure of leadership"
<blueteeth>
you should read it carefully
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<Tramtrist>
will take a look at the open collective
<blueteeth>
i gave much money to marcan on patreon, but i dont know open collective
<blueteeth>
i dont think it is serious
<blueteeth>
also it is way more expensive than patreon
<blueteeth>
1000 dollars is so much, i can buy a new x86 laptop with it
<chaos_princess>
./votekick
<maz>
+1
<j`ey>
blueteeth: you can look for x86 laptops elsewhere, it's off topic for here!
<Tramtrist>
thank you
<nicolas17>
speaking of passing the torch, who else has IRC op access? :P
<blueteeth>
but on macos i want to use macos apps, not linux apps. xquartz website sounds like linux apps
<blueteeth>
ok thank you
<schroes>
it's a great channel
<blueteeth>
join asahi-offtpic
<schroes>
slash
<blueteeth>
o you guys know if there are alternative gui systems for macosx? similiar to installing another desktop shell for windows?
<schroes>
again
<nicolas17>
are they still going
<j`ey>
blueteeth: ok, last warning and I will ban you
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<blueteeth>
there is a new article on phoronix about saying that marcan wants to be a woman, like anthony from linus tech tips and that is why he does not work on asahi anymore. is that true, do you guys know anything?
<blueteeth>
#join asahi offtopic
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<chaos_princess>
y'all have way more patience than me, i would have commissar-ed him like 10 posts ago if i had mod powers :P
<j`ey>
probably should have
<nicolas17>
*checks web logs* what a thing to post right after a last warning
<chaos_princess>
at least gives a clarification that it was a troll from the start