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<fl0_id>
technomagik bitcoin is tbh probably the most capitalist thing (libertarian) ever imo. nothing post-capitalist about it
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<regulad>
fl0_id: bitcoin now, absolutely. doesn't mean every consensus algorithm needs to be the same
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<u154ss>
I only ask this question every quarter.. I have an expensive m4 Pro (64GB) sitting here and used as a paperweight. Any approximate dates on when an installer would be ready. I'll get my coat.. :)
<u154ss>
m4 Pro Mini.
<chaos_princess>
no eta
* eta
:(
<sven>
u154ss: i can answer the question for all future times you'll ask it: we won't give out any ETA because that just causes pain. it'll be done when it's done but M3/M4 is no priority for us right now
<u154ss>
@sven Honest answer. Maybe I will sell the thing.
<chaos_princess>
unless you use macos that is probably a good idea (or loan it to a friend who will use, or etc)
<sven>
currently we have 1000+ downstream patches. we'll focus on upstreaming all of that first and once we have decent M1/M2 support upstream we'll consider M3/M4 fwiw
<u154ss>
macos = trump/putin/black death - no thanks.
<sven>
someone else might work on M3/M4 earlier and get that working but who knows
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<fl0_id>
regulad true. maybe gnu taler
<gmorell>
/w 2
<fl0_id>
at least it supports different modes. and prob should have moved this to #asahi-offtopic
<technomagik>
interesting, what's the equivalent of the federal reserve in Taler
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<fl0_id>
technomagik that doesn't exist iirc. but I'm not very up to date on it
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<technomagik>
What's the general state of the world with thunderbolt?
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<technomagik>
Like what needs to be figured out and upstreamed to make a PCI expansion chassis that you can plug into a M1/M2 macbook with Asahi and then be able to do lspci --v
<technomagik>
assumption 1) No proprietary software, everything can be recompile with appropriate page sizes and alignment
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<technomagik>
hrrrm. What can we do with gross out-of-tree hacks that will never get upstreamed, but could at least in theory be maintainable..
<chaos_princess>
nothing, unless you want to fork the project and do it yourself :P
<fl0_id>
chaos_princess someone asked me to dump my adt from m3 for them, do you remember if that should work? I haven't really installed m1n1 so far as I don't have time/skills to contribute, but feel comfortable enough installing boot level stuff and dumping things. I know some people got m1n1 to work, I'm just not sure based on the wiki if that can be done with standard m1n1 or if that needs some payload or sth?
<fl0_id>
and should it work with 14.x or should I update to 15.x first...
<sven>
i'm not sure usb3 works with upstream m1n1 yet so you may need a way to get to that real serial port (other apple silicon machine or central scrutinizer board)
<sven>
also not sure if m1n1 boots far enough on m3 to make the proxyclient work via uart
<sven>
either way you'd need to manually install it instead of using the installer, i.e. install a secondary macos machine, boot to 1TR, copy m1n1 payload to there and use kmutil manually
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<chaos_princess>
i _think_ it does on m3, but might need to grab patches
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<fl0_id>
chaos_princess yeah that's what I was wondering. sven by install a secondary machine, do you mean to install from a secondary physical machine? I assume a second macos install on the same machine (i.e. different apfs contrainer or whatever) should do the trick.
<sven>
er, yeah
<sven>
no idea why i wrote machine there
<sven>
second macos installation on the same machine is what i meant
<fl0_id>
ok good. yeah I can do that
<fl0_id>
does m1n1 without payload have a console?
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<chaos_princess>
yes, that is the default mode
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<fl0_id>
ok good
<fl0_id>
thx. then I'll try to figure out if/what patches I need
<fl0_id>
thx! I assume I cannot use that directly as it is for t6030 vs t6031. but just dumping adt or getting m1n1 console should work without booting into linux, right?
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<fl0_id>
sven not right now, because I know I can't do kernel dev or things like that. But I could get a second mac for that easily or a central scrutinizer board. (I have other dev boards for embedded stuff, but I assume they are not well suited for this)
<sven>
turns out that usb works, so you hopefully won't need hardware uart :)
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<fl0_id>
ok cool
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<mischa85>
yes and t6031 also seems to have pmgr working so m1n1 should be able to enable usb
<mischa85>
maybe it's adt has enough hints to make pmgr work on t6041 too
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<chaos_princess>
inb4 they hardcoded it all in drivers
<chaos_princess>
or what could be extra funny is that it is fully pmp driven now
<mischa85>
yeah i hope i'm competent enough to figure it out
<chaos_princess>
just out of curiousity, mind pasting output of ioreg -l
<chaos_princess>
(though do censor personal data, it has that)
<mischa85>
got it right here, will censor and paste, just a moment
<mischa85>
i still have gfx disabled on t6041 for example
<mischa85>
*gxf
<sven>
that should only be required for booting the HV
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<jannau>
pushed to asahi-wip. for macos 15.x you do not want to add the nvme to the device tree. it SErrors on probe() due to firmware changes, even on m1
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<sven>
ugh
<jannau>
my thought too
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<fl0_id>
mischa85 in this PR someone suggested they booted a very minimal system, but that likely needs a lot of cleaning up and is _very_ minimal from what I understand
<mischa85>
yep there seems to be a lot of stuff to do. but hey a boot is a boot