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<jmax>
@amilie: no need to apologize! Also note that I'm not part of the team, so anything I say is a mere suggestion. I think fl0_id's suggestions are excellent too.
<jmax>
For me, as a first pass, I watched the first video and took some rudimentary notes like these:
<jmax>
Next, I was planning on expanding a little bit more on each point and maybe add concrete commands and tool documentation. But yeah that's just an idea to consider.
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<monthebiff>
is asahi-btsync still a thing?
<monthebiff>
also, hi o/
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<monthebiff>
has anyone seen an issue with vscode crashing? error 133, might be an electron renderer crashing specifically
<ponies>
jbe: [24043:0314/091023.033711:ERROR:browser_main_loop.cc(278)] GLib-GObject: ../gobject/gsignal.c:2684: instance '0x2401a1ecc0' has no handler with id '2394'
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<monthebiff>
good spot on those tickets re vscode
<monthebiff>
jbe i always read the logs, much appreciated
<jbe>
no worries :)
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<monthebiff>
question, is there a goal for asahi with the fingerprint scanner? Or the webcam for logging in / security checks?
<j`ey>
webcam stuff sounds like non-asahi sw
<j`ey>
but the fingerprint reader is a goal eventually
<monthebiff>
thought the consensus was windows hello was generally better than the fingerprint scanner, was curious if asahi had a similar opinion and was leaning that way
<monthebiff>
but i don't know if theres lower level hardware concerns when it comes to those kind of auth checks
<j`ey>
well that sounds like it would just be some generic webcam stuff, I dont think there would be anything asahi specific there?
<monthebiff>
thought biometrics for stuff like that involved the SEP? (unless im completely misrembering?)
<j`ey>
yes for the FP reader
<j`ey>
maybe I dont know what webcam stuff you mean then..
<jbe>
doesn't windows hello compatible webcams also use the ir spectrum to make differentiating a face from a photo of a face easier? does the macbook webcams have similar features?
<monthebiff>
well on mac, they dont use the webcam for those checks, they use the fingerprint scanner. (and i assume it integrates with the SEP stuff in some way?)
<j`ey>
yes FP integrates with SEP
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<monthebiff>
i was wondering if the webcam on macs even could work with the SEP like that for a secure login
<jbe>
I assume the iphones do something similar, cursory search says it's called truedepth and involves projecting ir light onto the face
<monthebiff>
like is it even an option
<monthebiff>
jbe yeh look likes windows hello compatible webcams have depth/ IR sensors
<chaos_princess>
monthebiff: there is no "auth offload" the way face id works on phones
<chaos_princess>
and there is no depth sensor on the web cam
<monthebiff>
though im sure iphones have something equivalent cause of when they had animated emojis launching
<chaos_princess>
Iphone frontal cameras are much more advanced
<chaos_princess>
What is on macs is effectively a generic web cam, and it has the same feature set as a generic web cam
<monthebiff>
ok, so no depth / IR hardware, and no security handoff for auth? so probably no login via webcam then?
<monthebiff>
i wonder why they went with the fingerprint scanner instead of the camera tech they already use in their phones?
<chaos_princess>
You can do login via web cam, but it will be generic software, and it will be less secure
<monthebiff>
yeh, on that point id argue for fingerprint scanner instead, its there, so use it
<monthebiff>
was just curious/ been thinking about it for a while
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<monthebiff>
ohhhh gimp 3 is released... maybe i can get rid of flatpak!
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<fl0_id>
monthebiff you can still do auth via webcam, assuming the webcam works there might even be some PAM integration that does that already. It just won't be as secure as using depth info etc, though it's generally not *that* secure I think
<fl0_id>
I like the fingerprint scanner for what it's worse, unless it's sth that I have to operate without hands
<fl0_id>
*what it's worth
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