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<x512[m]>
trungnt2910: My __unw_add_dynamic_fde_list function was quickly written and it may not work property in some cases. I also feel that it can be implemented to be more efficient. You can share code if you have ideas how to improve it.
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<AlienSoldier>
just apraged from 55877 and it boot to the last icon and kdl there. something about a lock mutex
<AlienSoldier>
*upgraded
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<nielx[m]>
jessicah: plop
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<trungnt2910[m]>
It seems very strange when GCC is able to generate binaries with faulty `.eh_frame` on Haiku.
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<andreasdr[m]>
Nice win8linux
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<andreasdr[m]>
Good morning
<p10r[m]>
Hello there! Trying to help a friend debug his haiku machine
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<p10r[m]>
Is there any way to share screen over internet?
<win8linux[m]>
VNC perhaps, but maybe that's not quite what you're looking for.
<p10r[m]>
I think waddlesplash updated VNC client sometime last year. I'll check it out
<p10r[m]>
Thanks!
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<trungnt2910[m]>
<x512[m]> "trungnt2910: My __unw_add_dynami..." <- Seems like your implementation is actually correct, the one in libgcc does almost the same.
<trungnt2910[m]>
However, something weird is going on in GCC, making it generate faulty FDE info for libunwind.
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<x512[m]>
In theory also on 68k. Oberon compiler beckend for x86_64 is not yet complete.
<win8linux[m]>
Trying to build a program that seems to use a build system called Autotools.
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<win8linux[m]>
Running `./configure` seems to find the correct paths for installation, but `make install` doesn't seem to put the files where they should be.
<grobe0ba>
yes, because it uses the FSF standards. you'll have to pass the correct paths to it.
<grobe0ba>
./configure --help
<win8linux[m]>
Thanks, this is my first time encountering it.
<x512[m]>
And non-packaged directories should be used.
<trungnt2910[m]>
x512[m]: lol I learned that the hard way... package file system is so weird.
<x512[m]>
make install with default options will almost definitely not work on Haiku.
<grobe0ba>
and depending on how you set your paths up, you'll need to use a DESTDIR when running make install so you can package it
<x512[m]>
Haiku package system is nice, installing whole system in few seconds. No need to extract packages.
<trungnt2910[m]>
Instead, we extract them... on every boot?
<grobe0ba>
no
<x512[m]>
No, read packages at runtime without extracting.
<grobe0ba>
bind mount
<grobe0ba>
well, not exactly a bind mount. but close enough.
<grobe0ba>
if you've used linux, its more like mounting layers of squashfs
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<grobe0ba>
with bind mounts thrown in
<trungnt2910[m]>
x512[m]: Isn't it slow? If I remember correctly most packages are compressed using zlib?
<trungnt2910[m]>
Or aren't they pre-decompressed during installation?
<trungnt2910[m]>
s/aren't/are/
<grobe0ba>
not really. zlib is i/o bound, not cpu bound.
<grobe0ba>
at least on decompression
<win8linux[m]>
Didn't Haiku switch to zstd for packages?
<win8linux[m]>
Or is that still in progress?
<grobe0ba>
no idea. same thing though. zstd is even faster than zlib.
<phschafft>
genereally speaking zlib *always* improved performance for me when reading or writing to HDDs or SSDs.
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<trungnt2910[m]>
Weird, a bit confusing for those who are used to deleting and modifying stuff straight from `C:/Windows/System32` (you can't modify stuff in `/boot/system/`, but nice.
<trungnt2910[m]>
s//`,//`),/
<x512[m]>
Installing packages in Haiku is just copying package file to /boot/system/packages and its name to /boot/system/packages/administrative/activated-packages. No uncompession or extracting
<win8linux[m]>
trungnt2910[m]: Even Linux these days doesn't typically allow for equivalents of that, except as superuser (except for distributions using OSTree).
<x512[m]>
win8linux[m]: Windows no not allow it too without special privilege manipulations.
<x512[m]>
But for Haiku it is not privilege problem, PackageFS simply do not support writing.
<trungnt2910[m]>
x512[m]: "Special" lol. It's as simple as taking control of the file from "TrustedInstaller"
<win8linux[m]>
x512[m]: OSTree is similar on Linux, except it is Git-based.
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<trungnt2910[m]>
x512[m]: So the legendary `sudo rm -rf /` is actually harmless?
<nephele>
Similar to what? windows permissions?.... eh
<nephele>
rm -rf / has been harmless on ubuntu for quite a long time
<trungnt2910[m]>
win8linux[m]: Oops, I meant to reply to this message.
<nephele>
on Haiku you will destroy your install with it... if you somehow manage to compile and run sudo...
<win8linux[m]>
nephele: Just put an asterisk after the slash. Good thing this isn't a Linux chat or this would get me in trouble. :P
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<x512[m]>
trungnt2910[m]: On Haiku / is not a disk mount point, but special rootfs stored in RAM and constructed on each boot. Boot volume is mounted at /boot.
<nephele>
No, the equivalent you are proposing would be rm -rf /* /.* or rm -rf /{.*,*}
<trungnt2910[m]>
nephele: too long and difficult to understand to be put on a meme.
<nephele>
posix sais * does not match .*
<phschafft>
there is a discussion on the 'rm -rf /' case in POSIX.
<win8linux[m]>
Not really.
<x512[m]>
win8linux[m]: cat /dev/zero > /dev/sda
<nephele>
because it's "hidden" or something, because of an implementation bug in ls that then became a standard ffs
<trungnt2910[m]>
x512[m]: ~~What if my system is on sdb~~
<nephele>
trungnt2910: most linux distros nowadays mount by uuid anyway, so it doesn't matter
<nephele>
I am quite happy that the normal way haiku mounts disks is "/userfriendlyname" and not /var/media/<number>/<randomcharacters> or whatever
<trungnt2910[m]>
nephele: Until the day I have two NTFS drives named "New Volume"
<win8linux[m]>
:D
<win8linux[m]>
trungnt2910[m]: Or `nvme0p01`, `mmcblk0p02`, or some other thing.
<nephele>
trungnt2910[m]: Which would be named "New Volume" and "New Volume 1" by haiku, no?
<x512[m]>
trungnt2910[m]: It will add 2, 3 etc. to the end on collision.
<trungnt2910[m]>
My personal favorite is simply C:, D:, E:, or to make it Unix-y, /mnt/c/ /mnt/d/ /mnt/e/ (That's how WSL does stuff)
<nephele>
It seems wierd to me to justify insane naming schemes with "but what if one guy does have severall floppies huh???"
<x512[m]>
trungnt2910[m]: What if I have more than 26 disks?
<trungnt2910[m]>
x512[m]: ~~Sell them and buy a more decent one~~
<nephele>
I doubt WSL really cares about that :P
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<x512[m]>
<trungnt2910[m]> "~~What if my system is on sdb~~" <- Unlucky.
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<nephele>
waddlesplash: do you still want to test anything with your patches you send me?
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<nephele>
otherwise I'll just rebuild my system against the newest hrev to report some hda issues (mainly that none of my output works, even if i'd like to remap some later :/)
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<AlienSoldier>
waddlesplash still have the KDL i was having yesterday after an update even after updating again today. from memory because i don't have anything to take a picture right now: Panic mutex_destroy(): lock. owned by 0 not by the caller.
<waddlesplash>
might be related to idualwifi problems I suppose
<AlienSoldier>
i was hoping an upgrade would allow the tracker to boot everytime as on that laptop i still have the tracker bug requiring some reboot to eventually have the tracker window appear and have thing responsive.
<AlienSoldier>
i dont even use wifi, juts eternet cable, but it might be that i don't know
<AlienSoldier>
was upgrading from 55877, so many thing happened until then.
<Begasus>
heading down here, cu peeps!
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<waddlesplash>
nephele: no
<waddlesplash>
you can discard 'em
<nephele>
Ok cool
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<rhx_irc>
Anyone know of a way to perform a manual upgrade/downgrade without internet? I have haikuos system stuck on hrev56184 (and older version, I know). Its stuck because it just so happens to be the one with the malfunctioning wifi drivers (idualwifi7260 -> https://dev.haiku-os.org/ticket/17781)
<rhx_irc>
Now with wifi not working (and lan not being detected for some reason), I'm kinda stuck on this version