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<rennj> tracker!!!!!
<rennj> opentracker!!!!!!
<rennj> i had issues just drap and dropping 1000+ file in tracker..but that was while ago
<rennj> advanced mame foobar..games!
<andreasdr[m]> No idea, never had this before. Maybe because i was booting Haiku from USB stick.
<rennj> slowness on unreliable media
<andreasdr[m]> Need to install haiku very soon. Also I plan to buy a more or less dedicated machine
<andreasdr[m]> yes
<rennj> vmware is moving off of usb flash and sandisk flash..cause its not reliable enough in server environments
<rennj> vmware esxi is dumping usb flash/sd cards..failure rates too high
<rennj> and asking server vendors not to include boot support for those devices...witch i think is odd
<rennj> being able to boot from multiple devices is nice
<andreasdr[m]> Oh i see.
<rennj> reliability and performance when SD cards/USB media are used as standalone boot devices.
<rennj> Boot Device Size:
<rennj> Endurance requirements:
<rennj> 32GB** minimum (must), 128GB** recommended
<rennj> 128 TBW (over 5 years)
<rennj> Any new server storage for boot devices must comply with vSphere.Next endurance requirements. VMware has also requested OEM partners to remove any option to purchase USB/SD as boot device, such as with web-based ordering tools, sales tools, and with channels or resellers.
<rennj> Apart from already certified servers, VMware server certification process will block any new server certification for servers that have a USB/SD card as the boot device
<rennj> not certified!
<andreasdr[m]> i seeeee. hard times.
<rennj> we cant give you support sir!, you are not running on a certified system
<rennj> broadcom purchase all but guarantees quality control issues
<rennj> dell/emc/vmware vs broadcom/vmware ick
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<Skipp_OSX> I was doing things on a USB stick while copying a large amount of files and it was a terribly unresponsive
<Skipp_OSX> everything was really slow... it's partially the fault of the hardware but I'm sure there are also optimizations we could make too
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<andreasdr[m]> Hm. Usually I have no problem with USB and Haiku.
<andreasdr[m]> But improvements are always nice :)
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<repetitivestrain> does BScreen::WaitForRetrace actually do anything?
<repetitivestrain> on the intel graphics driver, at least
<repetitivestrain> thanks
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<Begasus> g'morning peeps
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<Begasus> Geany with gtkspell running :) https://ibb.co/DzqFL8z
<netpositive> morning
<Begasus> morning netpositive
<harshit-sharma[m]> Hey Everyone!
<harshit-sharma[m]> I'm working on the Calendar App in GSoC, and I'm currently at implementing the filters
<harshit-sharma[m]> Just a quick question
<harshit-sharma[m]> How can I get the new string, from a message of BTextControl?
<Begasus> Hello harshit-sharma[m] thanks on working on Calendar, maybe also add the question in the forum?
<nielx[m]> what does the BeBook say about the messages sent by BTextControl?
<harshit-sharma[m]> nielx[m]: There is a FindString() function which can be used, in which have to pass the 'name' and the pointer to the 'string'
<harshit-sharma[m]> and the the data is passed to the 'string'
<harshit-sharma[m]> <Begasus> "Hello harshit-sharma thanks on..." <- Sure!
<harshit-sharma[m]> harshit-sharma[m]: But I'm not sure what to pass in the 'name' argument
<nielx[m]> harshit-sharma[m]: So the contents of the message is defined by the BTextControl object itself. My comment on the PR was a question, not a comment. So it might be that the contents of the string is not added to the message. The documentation for BTextControl should tell you what data is added to the message. It could be you are already using the best/only way to get the content
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<harshit-sharma[m]> Okay!
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<nielx[m]> harshit-sharma: you can do a lot of the stuff you want to do with the strings using BString
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<nielx[m]> it even has a built in case-insensitive compare function
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<PulkoMandy> harshit-sharma[m], hello, if you have a BMessage and you want to know what's in it you can use message->PrintToStream(); and it will show the message content in the Terminal if you run the app from there, that's quite useful to discover the name of the fields in a message and what info is available
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<harshit-sharma[m]> <nielx[m]> "it even has a built in case-..." <- That might really be useful
<harshit-sharma[m]> <PulkoMandy> "harshit-sharma, hello, if you..." <- Okay!
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] autocommitter pushed 1 commit to master [hrev56318] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=e598b3eb6e43+%5E50913d9a6fa0
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] e598b3eb6e43 - Update translations from Pootle
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<Not-34b6> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-0/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/17cab0169d45...3b2a820127c6
<Not-34b6> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus 3b2a820 - gtkspell3, new recipe (#7081)
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<matt3> hello ...
<matt3> once upo a time ... i thoght begeistert was : Ich treffe BeOS ... Eine Versammlung ;0)
<matt3> why to become a ghost ?
<matt3> beVersammlung ...
<matt3> BeOSVersammlung
<matt3> HaikuVersammlung
<matt3> peace ...
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<phschafft> just that this is not the ghost sense of geist but the mind sense of geist, be-geist-ern [to inspire, to enthral] means get the mind active...
<matt3> thank you phschafft ...
<phschafft> (while the ghost sense basically means de-embody-ed mind ;)
<matt3> nice ... ;)
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<matt3> i have to apologize to mmuman after => i have told him i would build a his electronic circuit ... never done ...
<matt3> tell him pleace ...
<matt3> cu ...
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<matt3> mmu_man : hello
<matt3> mmu_man : i cannot build your cpu load electronic circuit ...
<Begasus> matt3, why tell him you would do it if you never done it? (don't think it's that easy to build one if you never did it) :)
<matt3> to apologize ... ;)
<matt3> too lazy xD
<Begasus> think I'm almost done with the geany plugins
<Begasus> to have support for vala it would probably mean having to rewrite some recipes to use gobject-introspection
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<Begasus> bbl
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<extrowerk> I started to use tailscale for my devices, but there is no tailscale for Haiku yet. I could connect my Haiku laptop through wlan to my VoCore openwrt router. On the Vocore i already managed to set up tailscale.. Now i only need to somehow route the incoming yellow data to the pink tailscale path. Can somebody tell me hot do attempt it with openwrt? should i route data with firewall rules, or bond the 2 interface or use bridge? For me
<extrowerk> all of them are synonymes in my head, and seemingly all of them does similar things, but i don't konw which one should i study deeper to solve the task.
<extrowerk> So i'd like to accomplish something like this: http://0x0.st/oesT.png
<Anarchos> i just setup a ubuntu desktop as a bridge between my router and another local network
<rennj> internet ----> ISP provide modem---->firewall/nat box nic1 /nic 2 -----> switch---->local lan
<rennj> and you can do you IDS tcpdump/wireshark and packet capture/netflow foobar from firewall/nat box
<rennj> and for the vpn, meh tor is free
<rennj> F5 big ip! yeah that what you want..hehe
<rennj> nah seriously home network all you need is a freebsd computer with 2 network cards.
<rennj> a multiport switch
<rennj> or go the SDDC route and do it all in software.. the software defined data center...using vmware
<rennj> assigning physicals nics to vm's and doing some vlan foobar with virtualmachines..
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<extrowerk> rennj: thanks, but this is not helpful me.
<rennj> ipfw iptables pf...probably going to want to figure your firewall rules,,,bonding nics is just for failover/bandwidth aggregation
<rennj> im sure you can google openwrt nic bonding
<rennj> chapter 1 Firewall and network interfaces
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<rennj> yeah freebsd smokes openwrt on docs
<rennj> heh freebsd handbook so much better than some of those crappy pages
<rennj> bridge firewall..says nothing links to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_bridge
<rennj> https://imgur.com/6cOGSiM https://i.imgur.com/oGmsKt4.jpg and that was 20years ago headless boxes..solaris,irix,freebsd,beos
<rennj> no linux hehe
<rennj> the 2 sparc and the 2 sgi o2's i had not in photo or that 5 port switch
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<lelldorin> good evening all
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<lelldorin> i have a question: if i create a ricipe, why i give not the version numer, only the revision? is the rversion number part of the recipe name ?
<augiedoggie_> yes
<lelldorin> ok thanks
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<andreasdr[m]> Good morning
<lelldorin> good morning
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<andreasdr[m]> Hi lelldorin
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<win8linux[m]> <extrowerk> "I started to use tailscale for..." <- It'd be nice to be able to use Tailscale directly on Haiku, but that would require both VPN and Wireguard support.
<extrowerk> and also Go
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<extrowerk> btw there is a tun driver in the source tree, but i have no info how well it works.
<rennj> i think your asking to much from the mediaOS
<rennj> you're even
<x512[m]> Maybe found potential bad performance problem is RadeonGfx: hardware supports 64KB page fragments, but driver currently do not use it.
<andreasdr[m]> Hi x512. Nice.
<andreasdr[m]> Cant await. Ill send you some Haiku 3D love until youre done or I am poor or I died.
<rennj> sacrafice of your first born son will do
<rennj> not enough cooks in the kitchen,,,,, developers developers developers ballmer style
<rennj> openindiana/opensolaris same deal
<rennj> haha
<Skipp_OSX> ok about system replicant patch(es) submitted for review.
<Skipp_OSX> I got everything working great now. Different font sizes, locales, workspace background colors, keeping the dragger on screen for long uptime.
<rennj> but does it have an easter egg? remember the shift + about system
<Skipp_OSX> of course
<x512[m]> andreasdr: RadeonGfx should be published this year in some form. I have full time paid job, so I can't spend a lot of time on it. Also I am not well organized person so I can waste time or do some unrelated things. Sorry.
<rennj> free labor w00t!
<rennj> someone had to do it...next google summer code..pass the torch on...
<rennj> look good on resume i would think
<rennj> github repo and all...
<x512[m]> RadeonGfx code is currently not well-organized because it started as my experiment on GPU programming and honestly it was more successful than I expected. I thought that it will be much more complex.
<rennj> yeah but the amount of code they been checking into linux kernel is crazy big...
<rennj> amdgpu covers wide range of cards besides the radeonsi foo
<x512[m]> Most of crazy big AMDGPU is register definition headers that can be just copied. But I made code generator that converts register bitfields into more readable form.
<rennj> my card uses both amdgpu/radeonsi...this is pacific island i want say was carrizo apu/gpu GCN 1.2/2.0 foo...
<rennj> 46.356] (II) AMDGPU(0): [DRI2] Setup complete
<rennj> [ 46.356] (II) AMDGPU(0): [DRI2] DRI driver: radeonsi
<rennj> [ 46.356] (II) AMDGPU(0): [DRI2] VDPAU driver: radeonsi
<rennj> [ 46.356] (==) AMDGPU(0): DRI3 enabled
<rennj> the firmware also blows
<rennj> huge..
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<rennj> well i only have 10MB for /lib/firmware/amdgpu i probably cleaned it out
<rennj> removed firmware for cards i dont own
<rennj> tonga topaz verde tahiti
<rennj> picasso
<rennj> fiji carrizo hainan
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<x512[m]> FPS 65 -> 75 on Instancing demo when adding 64KB page fragment support.
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<Diver> Skipp_OSX: while you're at AboutSystem could you please look into https://dev.haiku-os.org/ticket/16130
<Skipp_OSX> Diver it's fixed in my patch
<Diver> oh!
<Diver> could you please mention it in the commit log so it's not forgotten
<Diver> and thanks for the fix! :)
<Skipp_OSX> yes I will ... I forgot one thing anyway
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<Not-34b6> [haikuports/haikuports] diversys 3bd46f1 - libvirt: add recipe
<rennj> eh libvirt?
<rennj> haiku has libvirt for what? qemu?
<Diver> qemu, vbox and esxi
<rennj> so its client side foo...
<rennj> i see aqemu
<rennj> libvirt on the server i could understand..virtmanager create the vm's
<rennj> no clue how libvirt helps for esxi or vbox
<rennj> since its a redhat kvm/qemu code
<rennj> ahh i see more api foo
<rennj> supports KVM, Hypervisor.framework, QEMU, Xen, Virtuozzo, VMWare ESX, LXC, BHyve and more
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