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<x512[m]> Oh, long discussion about hi-DPI support. I support waddlesplash here.
<x512[m]> Scaling ratio setting independent from font size is required, should be user-configurable and allow fractional values.
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<rennj> Using the following Octave code, one can easily see the effect of changing the parameters haha
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<Begasus> g'morning peeps
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<andreasdr[m]> Good morning Begasus
<andreasdr[m]> Good morning
<Begasus> g'morning andreasdr[m]
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<netpositive> morning
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<andreasdr[m]> Good morning netpositive
<Begasus> g'morning netpositive :)
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<Not-34b6> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-0/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/071344e9237a...06a985954004
<Not-34b6> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus 06a9859 - libpostproc, new recipe (#7055)
<Begasus> Another one down :)
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<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] pulkomandy pushed 1 commit to master [hrev56279] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=5d1501ed1b2f+%5Eacdb3654febc
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 5d1501ed1b2f - reiserfs: enable -Werror
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<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 92eeb4af7d67 - apps/musiccollection: build fix
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<matt1> hello ... tell me something ...
<x512[m]> Something.
<matt1> xD
<matt1> opern source = i add to the app : the list of commands the app itself is made ...
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<matt1> hello.exe + hello.cpp ;0)
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<trungnt2910[m]> What exactly does `reserve_address_range` do?
<trungnt2910[m]> Is it like the Win32 `VirtualAlloc` with `MEM_RESERVE`?
<trungnt2910[m]> I've got the kernel server up and running, implemented the image API, now I'm implementing the proper virtual memory API.
<x512[m]> I think it will cause create_area to not use reserved range unless B_EXACT_ADDRESS is specified.
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<x512[m]> It seems allowed to use reserved range for resize_area.
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<nekobot> [haiku/buildtools] pulkomandy pushed 2 commits to master [btrev43195] - https://git.haiku-os.org/buildtools/log/?qt=range&q=7487388f5110+%5E0665c85caf7a
<nekobot> [haiku/buildtools] a48470517350 - Merge 'vendor-binutils' branch into master
<nekobot> [haiku/buildtools] 7487388f5110 - Merge 'vendor-gcc' branch in master
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<matt1> the trinity is made up of love => we children never disappear
<matt1> somewhere you go ... ;0)
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<trungnt2910[m]> <x512[m]> "It seems allowed to use reserved..." <- Only for resize_area, right?
<trungnt2910[m]> <x512[m]> "I think it will cause create_are..." <- ```... (full message at https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/AwGynQHLgRHFHkSZpTMoeyqS)
<trungnt2910[m]> > <@x512:matrix.org> I think it will cause create_area to not use reserved range unless B_EXACT_ADDRESS is specified.... (full message at https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/HDHyCMcnmikaSzwTnigtMAAb)
<x512[m]> Also area created with B_EXACT_ADDRESS.
<x512[m]> runtime_loader use reserve_address_range to create multiple areas inside single memory range (separate area for each PT_LOAD segment).
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<x512[m]> trungnt2910: > Just a high school student
<x512[m]> Really?
<trungnt2910[m]> > <@x512:matrix.org> trungnt2910: > Just a high school student... (full message at https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/HzuSIjIfsmvSUIZaiSfNCZBd)
<trungnt2910[m]> I've just finished the third year of High school.
<x512[m]> Too skillful for high school student.
<trungnt2910[m]> Took the graduation examination a few days ago, I haven't got the results yet so technically I haven't graduated yet and I'm still in high school.
<trungnt2910[m]> x512[m]: I bet Linus Torvalds at this age was way better.
<trungnt2910[m]> x512[m]: Also a lot of it is thanks to Haiku!
<trungnt2910[m]> My programming journey really took off after Google Code-in 2019. I really appreciate the guidance to open-source by members of the Haiku community.
<Rafaga> dont dissquelify yourself doing what are you doing at your age it is an achievement trungnt2910[m]
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<trungnt2910[m]> <Rafaga> "dont dissquelify yourself..." <- Thanks!
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] pulkomandy pushed 2 commits to master [hrev56281] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=c8641d3a23c3+%5E92eeb4af7d67
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 6325257204a3 - nfs: enable -Werror
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] c8641d3a23c3 - ramfs: enable -Werror
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<waddlesplash> x512[m]: I wasn't doing work quite at the level of trungnt2910[m] at the time but I've been here since high school myself
<waddlesplash> but I also studied tons of different things, so I had a rather wide knowledge even if in these areas it wasn't particularly deep
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<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] fd482d0a57a0 - docs/develop: Introduce release engineering documentation
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] waddlesplash pushed 1 commit to master [hrev56282] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=fd482d0a57a0+%5Ec8641d3a23c3
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<rennj> you had a commadore!
<rennj> back when computers came with programming books and schematics
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<rennj> isnt that what the raspberry pi was all about, get kids into computing like back in sinclair days
<rennj> besides making broadcom $$$$
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<Not-34b6> [haikuports/haikuports] pulkomandy pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/06a985954004...241f7a4f2fa6
<Not-34b6> [haikuports/haikuports] pulkomandy 241f7a4 - gertty: fix exception on start and location of config file.
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<matt1> hello Gaspare
<Gaspare> hi
<matt1> Gaspare : where are you from ?
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<Gaspare> Brazil...
<matt1> wow
<Gaspare> hehe
<matt1> br bug ... once upon a time ... ;0)
<matt1> nice t-shirt
<matt1> now haiku ?
<matt1> br hug ?
<Gaspare> yep... old BE user... use Haiku for fun only.. VM...
<matt1> i have bought beos t-shirt from your bug ...
<matt1> i think ...
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] waddlesplash pushed 1 commit to master [hrev56283] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=75c76bec9959+%5Efd482d0a57a0
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 75c76bec9959 - kernel/arm64/vm: introduce TRACE
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<matt1> Gaspare : me too ... using haiku for fun only ...
<waddlesplash> zdykstra: you've got a thinkpad with a trackpoint, yes?
<waddlesplash> or, something with a trackpoint that you use with Haiku
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<matt1> bye ...
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<zdykstra> waddlesplash: Yup!
<zdykstra> One with only a trackpoint, one with a trackpoint + touchpad
<waddlesplash> cool
<waddlesplash> in Input preferences, does the touchpad appear as a touchpad or as a mouse?
<waddlesplash> on both/either
<zdykstra> Let me pull them up later today, I honestly don't remember
<waddlesplash> ok
<waddlesplash> if either does, I have something for you to test
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<Begasus> heading down, cu peeps!
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<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 9ee255851df6 - Remove ISA floppy driver code
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<rennj> a sad day!
<rennj> isa cards not supported
<rennj> hehe..primitive boat anchors
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<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] pulkomandy pushed 1 commit to master [hrev56285] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=5be45ee70f9a+%5E9ee255851df6
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 5be45ee70f9a - arm64: Map discovered UART into kernel space as device memory.
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<zdykstra> waddlesplash: on my x260, I have a Trackpoing and a PS/2 Touchpad in Input Prefs
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<waddlesplash> you need only to install haiku.hpkg
<zdykstra> okay - installed. What am I testing?
<waddlesplash> whether the touchpad continues working as before
<waddlesplash> just use it as you normally would and make sure all functionality seems fine
<waddlesplash> check the trackpoint too of course
<zdykstra> trackpoint works - touchpad acceleration seems to be gone
<waddlesplash> hmm
<waddlesplash> if you change the touchpad acceleration in input preferences, does this fix anything?
<waddlesplash> i.e. does nudging the slider set the acceleration correctly
<zdykstra> doesn't seem to, acceleration is fixed regardless of the sliders
<zdykstra> do I have to close the window for it to apply?
<waddlesplash> no, you shouldn't
<zdykstra> and damn, machine just kdl'd with an intel_cstate trace
<waddlesplash> err, that's weird
<waddlesplash> is it an ASSERT failure?
<zdykstra> doesn't look like it - the idle thread on cpu 0 blew up
<waddlesplash> picture?
<zdykstra> yup, one sec
<zdykstra> have to find my phone
<zdykstra> I rarely use this laptop in Haiku, so I can't really say how stable this machine is generally
<waddlesplash> ah, ok
<waddlesplash> that's very weird...
<waddlesplash> it's possible this is related to the ps2 changes
<waddlesplash> but I'm not quite sure how...
<zdykstra> this is a brand new install from ~20 hrevs ago, with the updated haiku.pkg applied over it
<waddlesplash> well, see if you can reproduce the KDL with the old version
<zdykstra> I'm running from a USB3 drive, not sure if that has any bearing
<waddlesplash> it shouldn't
<zdykstra> I assume this is meant to fix missing/slow acceleration? The same slow touchpad behavior exists in hrev56265 that I'm running.
<waddlesplash> wait, so this isn't a regression?
<waddlesplash> it behaves exactly the same?
<zdykstra> yeah, it seems to be identical behavior on my Thinkpad x260.
<waddlesplash> LOL well that's really what I was asking about
<zdykstra> sorry - I so rarely use the touchpad that I didn't even notice it
<waddlesplash> this change is a major refactor that moves a lot of the touchpad signal conditioning into userland instead of the kernel
<zdykstra> well in that regard, nothing is demonstrably _worse_ for me
<waddlesplash> perfect!
<zdykstra> #shipit
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<waddlesplash> can you trigger the Cstates crash on the old hrev too?
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<zdykstra> I'm trying - the machine was idle on my office floor when it happened
<waddlesplash> it would have to be, cstates is idling logic
<zdykstra> yup
<zdykstra> just letting it sit for now
<zdykstra> is there any way to disable a specific input device?
<zdykstra> e.g. can I globally disable the touchpad?
<waddlesplash> hmm unfortunately not sure there is
<waddlesplash> sounds like a missing feature as you can't exactly unplug a touchpad
<waddlesplash> you can at least enable the "pad blocker" thing that blocks the touchpad while using the keyboard
<zdykstra> I tried turning it off in the BIOS but that wasn't respected (though Linux doesn't respect it either, so I imagine it's some stupid toggle the windows driver looks for)
<mmu_man> noooooo poor floppy driver
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<mmu_man> seems ACPI does have floppy info
<mmu_man> anyway
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<rennj> xinput doesnt respect it?
<rennj> bull
<rennj> you can disbale the touchpad
<rennj> xinput set-prop 12 "Device Enabled" 0
<rennj> you can control the touchpad on linux
<rennj> xinput set-prop 12 "Device Enabled" 1
<zdykstra> of course I can do it in linux
<zdykstra> or FreeBSD or whatever
<rennj> dykstra> I tried turning it off in the BIOS but that wasn't respected (though Linux doesn't respect it either,
<zdykstra> yes, I know what I wrote. I still have to disable it via xinput.
<zdykstra> there's an actual BIOS entry to disable the touchpad that Linux/nothing else respects.
<rennj> xinput is like old as x11
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<thomaslewis> Is the wifi card in a 2017 MacBook Air supported in the nightlies?
* thomaslewis has a spare MacBook he wants to make a dedicated Haiku machine.
<zdykstra> Boot a nightly and see? :)
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<thomaslewis> That’s the plan. From what I can find, it’s most likely a Broadcom chip.
<thomaslewis> I’m waiting on Monterey to reinstall after wiping it.
<thomaslewis> I’ll be sure to report the status in the “full system” thread on the forum (and here).
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<waddlesplash> zdykstra: did it reproduce?
<waddlesplash> thomaslewis: it's probably not. however, if it's a "bwfm" chip, I can now port the driver from OpenBSD
<thomaslewis> I’ll have to see what it comes up as. Limited research (read: I got bored searching) seems to indicate a BCM4313.
<zdykstra> waddlesplash: nope - let it idle for 15 minutes, moved the mouse, rinse repeat. 2 hours of that and nothing.
<waddlesplash> well, does it reproduce with the test version?
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<zdykstra> I was attempting with the test version