<jason123santa>
I put the script in the UserBootscript file to run at boot but it does not end up working
<jason123santa>
making a script for ifconfig at boot
<jason123santa>
and it works when i run it in terminal
<OscarL>
jason123santa: did you placed your script under $HOME/config/settings/boot/launch/ ?
<jason123santa>
also tried that but it told me to make it not executable and when I did then it did not work
<OscarL>
:-(
<OscarL>
crapshoot.... add some delay before calling ifconfig?
<OscarL>
say... "sleep 3"
<OscarL>
or 5, or something. Might give enough time for "things to settle" before calling ifconfig does it thing.
<jason123santa>
lets see if it works
<OscarL>
Maybe using launch_roster to call the script after the net_server job is up and running... but I can't help you much there... I've just happen to try "launch_roster --help" and "launch_roster info x-vnd.haiku-net_server" for the first time :-D
<jason123santa>
yep sleep 10 works
<OscarL>
then that might be the issue... ifconfig being called before, say, net_server is up.
<jason123santa>
yeah might be the issue
<OscarL>
might be worth investigating that launch_roster thing then (seems you can make jobs depend on each other)
<jason123santa>
would be better if it would auto connect to the wifi but i guess a script works
<OscarL>
sure, this is just a workaround, but... such is life.
<jason123santa>
yeah its just a workaround that ends up working fine
<nekobot>
[haiku/haiku] b19fa8834406 - boot/arm64: don't map EFI loader code and data regions
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<n0toose[m]>
Hey, I'm currently finishing up the recipe for ddnet, but for some reason, I get some strange rc: Error! /sources/ddnet-398bc0d5ddff61d8315637ef6206d8a502acbe27/ddnet.rdef:6 syntax error.
<n0toose[m]>
What is weird is that I copied the teeworlds.rdef file and just changed its name.
<n0toose[m]>
Answer: I did not have a minor version.
<n0toose[m]>
other question: how do I create an .rdef if the version is not, like, a typical version number, like: ddnet-20230309.recipe
<nekobot>
[haiku/haiku] 2ab05dc92589 - docs/develop: a few notes about invalidation, view bitmaps, and overlays
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<Begasus>
n0toose[m], maybe just try to build it without the rdef?
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<n0toose[m]>
just opened the PR
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<nintendo1889>
Was BeIDE the same as codewarrior?
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<nintendo1889>
I mean, was it codewarrior?
<bjorkintosh>
In August 1996, Metrowerks announced CodeWarrior for BeBox,[5] a BeOS version of the IDE named BeIDE supplementing the PowerPC compiler that was already available to BeOS software developers.
<bjorkintosh>
has wiki answered your pressing concern, nintendo1889?
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<Begasus>
n0toose[m], forgot the pain of building with cargo :)
<Begasus>
ps, had a cmake error not finding python earlier, hence the comment on the PR
<n0toose[m]>
might as well add glew while i'm at it
<n0toose[m]>
but the cargo thing isn't that big of a deal, i was very surprised to see it just work
<Begasus>
pkgconfig/gtest
<Begasus>
yeah, nice screenshots
<n0toose[m]>
i deliberately avoided using gtest
<n0toose[m]>
had some troubles using it without a recipe
<n0toose[m]>
i'll try again
<Begasus>
k, no big deal, build is running without them
<n0toose[m]>
yep it says its ok we just wont have any tests
<n0toose[m]>
the screenshots are meant for you all to see it works as-is and not for haikudepot btw
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<n0toose[m]>
wouldn't add those
<Begasus>
not involved in HD, so no worries here :)
<n0toose[m]>
question, i want to add libglew but i also have libGL, which goes first?
<Begasus>
libGL
<n0toose[m]>
capital letters, got it
<Begasus>
alphabetic :)
<Begasus>
capitol letters are not involved :)
<Begasus>
capital*
<Begasus>
gl comes before glew
<n0toose[m]>
makes sense
<n0toose[m]>
wasn't just sure if nothing came before the letter 'e' 🤔
<n0toose[m]>
but thought so, just wanted to be sure i wouldn't mix it up xd
<Begasus>
;)
<n0toose[m]>
so that means that libglew goes in between of libGL and libGLU
<Begasus>
yep
<n0toose[m]>
when you also treat capital letters as some part of a separate alphabet when programming it gets confusing
<n0toose[m]>
for some reason, the very optimal argument you recommended to me isn't working properly, not sure if i should debug further or leave it for another day
<Begasus>
error?
<n0toose[m]>
Error: Failed to open output file "/packages/ddnet-2023.03.09-1/.self/apps/DDNet": No such file or directory
<n0toose[m]>
just to be super clear, i just removed all of the mv/cp commands assuming it'd all magically land in the right spot
<Begasus>
with $cmakeDirArgs?
<n0toose[m]>
sorry, *DDNet/DDNet
<n0toose[m]>
this error was copied from another iteration where i tried doing things until they worked as i could not exactly pinpoint the file using find
<n0toose[m]>
which may have been a bit counterproductive as it shouldn't find files that don't exist and i should therefore not try pointing at them
<n0toose[m]>
but yes, $cmakeDirArgs
<Begasus>
ddnet should install in $binDir, so you probably need to link it to $appsDir for addAppDeskbarSymlink ?
<n0toose[m]>
wait,
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<n0toose[m]>
adding glew, wavpack...
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<Begasus>
25 objects to go ...
<n0toose[m]>
wavpack failed
<n0toose[m]>
using bundled one
<n0toose[m]>
god, git commit --amend on haiku hangs all the time
<Begasus>
no issue with that here (first time git is run it takes a bit of time, but after that it's fine)
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<n0toose[m]>
why would i need to link stuff from $binDir if i do -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=$appsDir/DDNet?
<n0toose[m]>
shouldn't it just put the binary file in that directory, then?
<Begasus>
you shouldn't use -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=$appsDir/DDNe
<Begasus>
eeps, crashes on launch here :/
<n0toose[m]>
makes sense, trying again
<n0toose[m]>
try using the ddnet_srv binary, it may show you that the data folder is missing
<n0toose[m]>
yeah, i can't get it to work with that arg personally
<n0toose[m]>
i can send the file tho
<Begasus>
back in a bit
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<Begasus>
ok, seems a no go here, if it works for you then just drop the suggestion for $cmakeDirArgs n0toose[m]
<nintendo1889>
bjorkintosh: I think so, I thought maybe the BeIDE that came with BeOS 5 pro was a lite version.
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<Begasus>
n0toose[m], managed to launch ddnet_srv without errors, but DDNet is still crashing on launch
<Begasus>
hi BrunoSpr !
<n0toose[m]>
it is not crashing on launch for me
<n0toose[m]>
what do you define as crashing on launch? just a white brect?
<nekobot>
[haiku/haiku] 26eb736c4458 - acpi_thermal: report temps in Celsius on acpi_thermal_read()
<n0toose[m]>
the maintainer of krita saw a post with an old krita version and was like "omg we'd totally love to have upstream haiku support :VVVVVVVVV"
<n0toose[m]>
i talked to her about the subject later and she's super super cool apparently
<Habbie>
right, i read some of that in here
<n0toose[m]>
whereas some other upstreams may lean towards the "haiku? haha why would we include this who uses it even", "sorry you're implicitly passing on the maintenance burden on us and i wont change my mind about this *closes*", etc.
<Habbie>
right
<n0toose[m]>
not like we're entitled to have our own patches merged anywhere or, disclaimer, that I have actually faced this with the specific upstream i am talking about
<Habbie>
and the haiku fs layout is sufficiently weird that what an upstream does today probably works for almost everybody .. except us
<Habbie>
i had to patch /share/ to /data/ in another port yesterday
<Habbie>
look at me, going "us" already, i've been here five days
<n0toose[m]>
amazing confidence -- it took me more than 2 years to say us and i still add "us , as in haiku, (i'm not a developer)"
<Habbie>
haha
<Habbie>
i feel at home in places very quickly
<Habbie>
doesn't mean i pretend to speak for the project in any capacity
<n0toose[m]>
that's wonderful :D
<Habbie>
(that takes another two weeks and then for two more weeks people will have to correct me when i stay stupid things)
<n0toose[m]>
i don't speak for the project in any capacity but i highly suggest that you just say 'us' as a community member :D
<n0toose[m]>
it takes less keystrokes
<Habbie>
yes!
<Habbie>
yeah
<n0toose[m]>
oh it's fine if you see my reviews you can still see people correcting me on the most silly things ever
<Habbie>
oh reviews i believe
<Habbie>
i mean when answering questions ;)
<Habbie>
as for reviews, i think the linter could do more
<Habbie>
not sure i want to tackle that though
<n0toose[m]>
at least ur not like the people on stack overflow that use chatgpt to answer
<Habbie>
oh that is so bad
<Habbie>
it should be forbidden
<Habbie>
oh wait it is
<n0toose[m]>
i think it is
<Habbie>
yeah they announced that pretty quickly
<n0toose[m]>
the obs project also banned a random chatgpt contribution
<n0toose[m]>
i talked to another person that's interested in contributing and they find it very intimidating that all of our tickets are like "create ur own driver, find cause of obsolete bug, implement very complicated feature", i basically told them that most of my patches completely ignore tickets
<n0toose[m]>
i definitely infodumped them enough to get them interested in contributing :D
<Habbie>
:)
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<n0toose[m]>
there, this is the person i was talking about
<Habbie>
welcome
<n0toose[m]>
dio9sys, in case if you're shocked by the fact that i was talking behind your back, feel free to check the logs i just brought up :P
<n0toose[m]>
welcome!
<Habbie>
doesn't matrix show that anyway?
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<waddlesplash>
Habbie: you should not have to patch "share" to "data" in basically any project
<n0toose[m]>
not 100% sure, it can be disabled from channel to channel and some irc networks were annoyed that some users could enter and then read the entire backlog they aren't supposed to read
<waddlesplash>
Habbie: for Autotools, we use "runConfigure" which passes --datadir and others as appropriate
<n0toose[m]>
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
<waddlesplash>
Habbie: for CMake, the scripts should be patched to use GNUInstallDirs
<waddlesplash>
and then use $cmakeDirArgs in the recipe which passes -D...DATA_DIR... as appropriate
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<Habbie>
n0toose[m], ack, was aware of some channels not having that in matrix, but i don't know how/where that is decided/specified
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<Dio9sys[m]>
Ah there is I guess no scrollback on this channel.
<Dio9sys[m]>
But anyway, hi hello I'm dio9sys. Linux security person by day, by night I've been trying out haiku off and on for years. I've got it on a laptop now so I can try to learn enough of how it all works to figure out why paladin keeps saving my projects as read only
<Dio9sys[m]>
I'm famous for such hits as "I submitted a github issue once" and "running everything in ultra verbose mode"
<Habbie>
are there any physical books that are good reads for haiku development?
<AlienSoldier>
Habbie no sorry, OS hanged
<Habbie>
ok!
<Habbie>
21:32Z <Habbie> AlienSoldier, i don't, and i don't know, but i can test a MS xbox 360 usb controller if that seems interesting
<Habbie>
21:32Z <Habbie> (i'm saying this after looking at an image of the chillstream)
<Habbie>
21:34Z <Habbie> in any case i'm curious what app one would test it with
<Habbie>
AlienSoldier, which OS hanged? :)
<AlienSoldier>
Habbie i sure would know if a xbox 360 wired also work but the chill one is known to not work on an xbox, so they are not the same.
<Habbie>
ok
<Habbie>
one question remains
<Habbie>
plus another one - do you have a chillstream?
<AlienSoldier>
Habbie planing to use one with mGBA (in any case all haiku app should react the same as the drivers are system wide i think)
<Habbie>
'all' except most apps don't know what a game controller is
<Habbie>
does mGBA have a controller test in settings, or something like that?
<AlienSoldier>
Habbie i was in gnome web when i lost the mouse pointer, only the music in another workspace continued playing, anything on display was froze in time.
<Habbie>
linux?
<AlienSoldier>
Habbie * i sure would like to know if a xbox...
<OscarL>
Habbie: re: apps not working with controllers: There was an app called JoyStickutilizer, to convert joysticks events to keyboard events.
<OscarL>
*JoystickUtilizer
<Habbie>
it's in haikuports
<AlienSoldier>
we don't have a good joypad compatibility list
<Habbie>
right
<Habbie>
we should :)
<Habbie>
AlienSoldier, do you have any joypads that work?
<AlienSoldier>
nope
<Habbie>
and you do have the chill?
<AlienSoldier>
no pc one other than those connecting in soundcard, no USB one
<Habbie>
*chillstream
<AlienSoldier>
I don't have the chill, just saw one on market place in my town
<Habbie>
ah
<AlienSoldier>
i have wireless xbox 360 controller, but no dongle or any bluethoot capability
<Habbie>
wireless xbox 360 controllers are not bluetooth
<AlienSoldier>
yeah that is why i mentioned dongles, i guess someoen made some
<Habbie>
MS did :)
<AlienSoldier>
I have 3 wireless one, one with the keyboard that snap on it
<Habbie>
when i still played on 360 i bought a few USB one just for those days i had many players, and then it turned out they were great on PC too
<Habbie>
i also have two Stadia controllers, should see if Haiku likes those
<AlienSoldier>
started to play very recently on 360 myself, i am a late adopter. I like 2$ games :)
<Habbie>
yes, old consoles are nice like that :)
<AlienSoldier>
have a hard time to find Blur for cheap that said :(
<Habbie>
old consoles can also be easy to mod ;)
<phschafft>
hm.
<AlienSoldier>
yes, but they got quite a good anti piracy system with bluray games, those can be quite big
<Habbie>
right
<phschafft>
got some very cheap gamepad, thinking of modifing it to use it for some kiosk type system as input device.
<Habbie>
AlienSoldier, anyway, happy to test usb 360, feel free to remind me sometime soon
<AlienSoldier>
sure
<AlienSoldier>
they might work, but not all buttons ans all
<AlienSoldier>
*and all
<Habbie>
(can't dig around too much for the controllers right now, it's late)
<OscarL>
I remember there where some .zips (floating around BeShare) of those articles, with index pages organized by date, type, title...
<n0toose[m]>
does haiku play well with controllers?
<OscarL>
The OpenBeOS ones were good too, while they lasted :-D
<n0toose[m]>
i remember having some difficulties with the mappings as i was trying to test supertuxkart
<OscarL>
last "controller" I've used was on an Atari 2600 clone, so... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ :-P
<Habbie>
n0toose[m], my feeling is we're looking for these answers ;)
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<AlienSoldier>
OscarL what was the third party premium type of Atari joy in sounth america, wico or competition pro?
<OscarL>
No idea AlienSoldier. I only ever managed to use our cheap copy of the 2600, called "Dynacom".
<OscarL>
Over the years, I kept servicing/fixing the two joysticks it came with, until they went kaput :-( (too much for my younger self repairing skills, at least)
<BrunoSpr>
Strange but not that important...
<OscarL>
BrunoSpr: sounds like you're describing me :-)
<BrunoSpr>
how could I
<BrunoSpr>
even do not understand what you speak ... sorry
<AlienSoldier>
butterfly effect put "not all important" in different perspective
<OscarL>
I was just attempting to make a silly self-deprecating joke..., nothing important.
<OscarL>
BrunoSpr: Do mind sharing the specs of the computer you're testing QMplay2 with? On your first comment on the Github issue, you mention that it worked on 64 bits... was that on the same machine that gives you problems on Haiku 32 bits?
<BrunoSpr>
yes i try
<BrunoSpr>
but now I am very tyred very tired..
<OscarL>
No problem!
<BrunoSpr>
sorry I need sleep now...
<OscarL>
Sleep well, BrunoSpr!!!
<BrunoSpr>
sorry Oscar... see you tomorrow...
<BrunoSpr>
bye all
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<AlienSoldier>
One of the thing i don't like with QMplay2 is that i always have to adjust the video delay (sound is out of synch)
<OscarL>
I only did some tests in Haiku (mostly trying to test BrunoSpr's issues), it seemed to work ok for me. But... I only used it with 480p.
<AlienSoldier>
i don't have much performance issue, i do have them with VLC that said at certain size of window, i then have to adjust it from one pixel and then all is fine.
<AlienSoldier>
happen that my full screen is not an "adjusted" to work size
<zdykstra>
okay, that's bizarre. I have my USB keyboard attached to the USB hub in my monitor; Input preferences thinks I have 4 keyboards.
<badkeming[m]>
zdykstra: an alternate universe undoubtedly exists where you do; Haiku is just taking a _slightly_ wider view of the multiverse than you are perhaps? ^^