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<white-wolf>
hi MajorBiscuit
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<Begasus>
re
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<BrunoSpr>
good morning all... How to fix HaikuDepot not showing the "Date" and seems misconfigured now after wrong date settings... update packet source and pkgman full does not help
<BrunoSpr>
This is Haiku Beta 4 64bit nightly...
<Begasus>
'lo BrunoSpr
<BrunoSpr>
howdy?
<BrunoSpr>
how do you do?
<Begasus>
fine so far, thanks for asking
<Begasus>
is your system time and date correct?
<BrunoSpr>
now all ok
<Begasus>
just used pkgman update without issues
<Begasus>
ah ok :)
<BrunoSpr>
I swapped the repositories and activated them again... after a sync all is there again
<BrunoSpr>
my collegue at work told me: If an American asks you: "how do xou do" one should answer with "I am ok" and not with "fine thank you" since only germans will answer so... is it?
<Begasus>
well, normaly I would do also, but just got out of the hospital from yesterday (after 6 days) :)
<BrunoSpr>
Begasus.. oh hope all is well now! Sorry missed it! Take your rest and get well then!
<Begasus>
I'll do that, thanks :)
<BrunoSpr>
6 days is a long time! Hope you still remember how to port apps
<Begasus>
Told the wife to get my laptop :) didn't miss practice, and gave me a change to setup a descent virtual install in vmware :)
<Begasus>
ps, checked QMPlay2 in both arch's as OscarL mentioned, works ok (with some glitches etc): https://ibb.co/BwmNTVk
<BrunoSpr>
Begasus hey nice how was the experience working in VM? I tried many times also downloading at lowest 420p but we think the laptop is too slow to play the viedos...
<BrunoSpr>
YouTube does play the videos but it has problems too to play them correct
<BrunoSpr>
in qmplay2
<BrunoSpr>
ok get some tea...
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<white-wolf>
how can i update youtube-dl on haiku by github command : curl...
<white-wolf>
?
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<Begasus>
white-wolf, if you got haikuporter/haikuports installed you can update the recipe to the current version?
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<cocobean>
BrunoSpr: American slang is regional - but when asked "how do you do" people tend to say "<their condition> and how are you?" so that the response is reciprocal.
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<white-wolf_>
be back
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<white-wolf_>
i would like format my debian for install haiku, but no youtube for learn programming in french the principal problem is the web browser, web not work on my VM and webpositive don´t
<white-wolf_>
don´t do
<phschafft>
I don't like people that respond with their medical and financial history and how bad the world is. 'ok', 'fine', and 'good' is the way to go. if I want to know their problems, I will ask specifically for that.
<white-wolf_>
for help and learn C++
<white-wolf_>
i'm beginer in C/C++ but want help, like very haiku... but no jitsi for my help conf
<white-wolf_>
haiku is ok to use all day as desktop ?
<white-wolf_>
may be arrive te find solution, peraps compile or create news hpkg
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<nosycat>
You're asking many questions, and I don't understand very well.
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<nosycat>
Are you French, white-wolf_?
<white-wolf_>
yes
<nosycat>
I speak some French, but I'm very new to Haiku.
<white-wolf_>
pv ?
<white-wolf_>
or on haiku-fr
<nosycat>
Okay!
<nosycat>
There's a haiku-fr channel?
<white-wolf_>
yes on oft
<white-wolf_>
ofct
<white-wolf_>
oftc
<zdykstra>
you can get a lot of things done on Haiku, but some of them will take more effort than on other systems.
<white-wolf_>
effort isn´t a problem
<zdykstra>
if you really want/need to watch YouTube to learn programming, your best bet is a tablet or phone
<white-wolf_>
can use youtube-dl ?
<white-wolf_>
on haiku ?
<white-wolf_>
but i try on VM and don´t work
<zdykstra>
yt-dlp is in HaikuDepot, so I imagine it works
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<white-wolf>
ok zdykstra i try merge format, wbm not work correctly
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<Anarchos>
hello
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<Begas_VM>
'lo :)
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<nosycat>
Hi there!
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<andreasdr[m]>
HI there!
<nosycat>
o/
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<Begas_win>
'lo :)
<nosycat>
How are you?
<Begas_win>
man this thing is fast ;) created packages for tuxpaint and tuxpaint_stamps for both arch's while on the other laptop boost179 is still initializing :P
<Begas_win>
fine so far, thanks, taking an easy pase :)
<Begas_win>
s/pase/pace/
<nosycat>
Congrats!
<Begas_win>
;) download size for tuxpaint_stamps is twice the size of boost :O
<Begas_win>
did something change in the order of "any" packages?
<Begas_win>
I can install the 32bit package for tuxpaint_stamps on 64bit without problems
<nosycat>
Software these days. And dunno!
<jmairboeck>
"any" packages should be installable on "any" Haiku installation, that is why they are called "any"
<jmairboeck>
and that is also why it is redundant and wastes resources to build them for all architectures separately
<nosycat>
Wait, shouldn't stamps be architecture-independent?
<Habbie>
waddlesplash, this is my original machine (the one that randomly reboots during builds). I don't think it was building here (but i'm not 100% sure), i may have just left it idle for a few days
<Habbie>
waddlesplash, i also do not recall if this boot was with or without ACPI, but I do know the keyboard does nothing right now
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<zdykstra>
now that's an interesting trace
<Habbie>
good
<Habbie>
as i said, i do not 100% know the context in which it happened, but i know plenty of important things
<Habbie>
and once i reboot out of it, i can also tell you the hrev
<zdykstra>
(at least to me it is, I'm hardly an expert)
<Habbie>
:)
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<waddlesplash>
Habbie: not really
<Habbie>
aw :)
<waddlesplash>
this just usually indicates the underlying FS got disconnected without closing cleanly
<waddlesplash>
the real error is likely back in syslog and is probably unrelated
<Habbie>
the underlying FS.. the SSD inside my machine
<Habbie>
that's at least interesting to -me- :D
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<waddlesplash>
sata?
<waddlesplash>
it could just be some kind of error condition we're not handling properly
<Habbie>
m.2 sata
<Habbie>
right, yes
<Habbie>
ok, going to powercycle and see if syslog has anything for me written to disk
<Habbie>
which does not seem optimistic
<Habbie>
bah, i really hoped this would be the key to everything :D
<Habbie>
can haiku do remote syslog?
<waddlesplash>
via Udp? don't think so at present but jessicah may have been looking into this
<Habbie>
alternatively, would logging serial output have told me more here?
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<Habbie>
my sshd auth issues are spreading between haiku installs...
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<Habbie>
cool, first block in /var/log/syslog is actually resolv.conf
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<waddlesplash>
oh, file cache or block allocator problem
<waddlesplash>
or it just didn't flush fully to disk
<Habbie>
ack
<Habbie>
sadly there are no timestamps in syslog
<Habbie>
what's "hda"? it logs a lot
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<jessicah>
high definition audio
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<Habbie>
right!
<jessicah>
you probably have a corrupt bfs
<Habbie>
are there tools to help?
<jessicah>
there's checkfs
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<jessicah>
but it generally "corrects" by wiping out invalid blocks, so you can get data loss
<Habbie>
i have nothing of value here
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<Habbie>
it freed 19 blocks
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<Habbie>
seems happy otherwise
<jessicah>
ah okay, not too bad then
<Habbie>
ack
<Habbie>
now let's see if this 25 year old motherboard-serial cable fits this 10 year old PC
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<Habbie>
it doesn't :(
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<Habbie>
i fixed my sshd problem. at no point was i even connecting to the right machine.
<phschafft>
how I know those types of problems.
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<Habbie>
:)
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<Habbie>
perhaps i should change the username to the username i use everywhere else
<Habbie>
and add my sshkey
<Habbie>
then instead of 'authentication problems' i get 'that is not the terminal prompt i expected' :D
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<Habbie>
the plot thickens, this time i can see in syslog on the haiku machine that sshd is refusing me
<Habbie>
and the password works in telnet
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<jessicah>
did you set the ssh password separately?
<jessicah>
also, did you edit the config to enable root user?
<Habbie>
i edited the config.. but not for that
<Habbie>
keep forgetting everything is root
<Habbie>
tada
<Habbie>
thanks
<Habbie>
what did you mean by 'set ssh password separately'?
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<jessicah>
if it works, it works
<jessicah>
oh, I can't remember, maybe it was as simple as 'passwd'
<white-wolf>
O.K. i install haiku on Dell precision 7510 with xeon processor... where can post install report ? if possible a mailing list ?
<PulkoMandy>
There are two Haiku books: "learning to program with Haiku" and "programming with Haiku". They are both available for free. You can buy a printed copy, it supports the original author who isn't updating them anymore
<Habbie>
ah
<Habbie>
i like that, but does it also support the project?
<PulkoMandy>
I'm not sure we want to make information available only to people who can pay for it
<Habbie>
that makes sense to me!
<Habbie>
however, free PDF, pay for printed, printed sponsors project for $5 is nice
<PulkoMandy>
No, if you want to (and can) support the project, donate some money to Haiku inc
<Habbie>
understood
<Habbie>
i can, and will at some point decide if i want to :)
<PulkoMandy>
Yes, we could do that, but we need some text to put in the book. We don't even have a complete API reference
<Habbie>
ack
<Habbie>
so somebody contributing to docs would, marginally, be helping towards that effort :)
<PulkoMandy>
And then there's the logistics of printing and shipping it
<Habbie>
yeah
<Habbie>
i understand there are on-demand print publishers now
<PulkoMandy>
I did it for beta1 release dvds. Now I have 300 of these under my bed and don't know what to do with them
<Habbie>
ugh
<jessicah>
frisbee!
<Habbie>
mirror wall
<Habbie>
cheaper approaches to both exist
<jessicah>
but yeah, selling physical products is problematic
<PulkoMandy>
Yes, but how much money do we get from an on-demand publisher and how much goes to the publisher? Well I guess we can't lose money on it
<Habbie>
PulkoMandy, that is my rough impression, but it may still not be worth the effort
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<cocobean>
BrunoSpr: You can reinstall QMPlay2 afterwards.
<bjorkintosh>
foint[m], do you have a different machine available?
<bjorkintosh>
you might run it in a VM if you just want to check it out
<OscarL>
np. I have only old hardware, but last I've tested beta4 was with at least 512 MB :-/
<foint[m]>
foint, do you have a different machine available?
<foint[m]>
Yup but for some reason I can't select the haiku volume
* OscarL
should dig up his old Athlon TBird 900 MHz, and see if it really works with 256+128 MiB RAM sticks :-D
<OscarL>
foint[m]: for the old PC with too little RAM.... you could try finding something like "BeOS5PEMaxEditionV4b1.zip" on the intertubes... (it's a customized version of BeOS R5 PE, with lots of BeOS software already installed). Good to see Haiku's roots, at least :-)
<foint[m]>
foint: for the old PC with too little RAM.... you could try finding something like "BeOS5PEMaxEditionV4b1.zip" on the intertubes... (it's a customized version of BeOS R5 PE, with lots of BeOS software already installed). Good to see Haiku's roots, at least :-)