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<Coldfirex> Thanks for spending some time on the nmap recipe WAddlesplash
<waddlesplash> np
<waddlesplash> requires someone to spend a few hours writing a route-haiku.c, or looking at route-bsd.c and seeing if we could implement those APIs in libbsd
<Coldfirex> Wish I could help. I tried to learn to program 2 years ago and it was a disaster
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<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/84357dbd4f97...b3c1388528ce
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus b3c1388 - librnp, revbump for corrected botan soname in the recipe (#9504)
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<Begasus> g'morning peeps
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<BiPolar> Hello Begasus.
<BiPolar> Begasus: re: markupsafe... git blames you for that one! Kids these days... sigh... :-P (should have removed line 54 when you dropped Python 2.7, and added 3.10 for that one :-D)
<Begasus> still waking up, what was that again? Hi there btw :)
<BiPolar> Also... you switched it to "any" but it requires cmd:gcc ? mmm, I'll need you to take a breathalizer test for that one :-D
<Begasus> ah :)
<Begasus> haven't had any alcohol for over half a year, can't be that :P
<BiPolar> 14:39 <Begasus> OscarL, if you read this, markupsafe has a wrong directory in it's package :) "lib/python3.1" :P
<Begasus> k, borgbackup can be adjusted
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<Begasus> yeah, will have a peek ;)
<BiPolar> no worries, I can do it (can update it too)
<Begasus> k, then I'll finish up with borgbackup here
<BiPolar> +1
<Begasus> easy fix for now :)
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-1/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/b3c1388528ce...0f8df8263115
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus 0f8df82 - borgbackup, bump version (#9502)
<Begasus> ps, on weechat, since you read the logs, perhaps python should be added to REQUIRES?
<Begasus> BiPolar, think bookman can be dropped on a next update, tried it, doesn't look that pretty ;)
<BiPolar> Begasus: re: weechat... haven't made my mind about that one yet :-D. re: bookman... looking at the script, that was my expectation: "this can't be pretty" :-D
<BiPolar> off to 32 bits to test markupsafe.
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<OscarL_32> Got it OK on the first try. Noice!
* OscarL_32 reboots
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<Begasus> wb :)
<OscarL> thanks :-D
* OscarL reads the rest of yesterday the logs to catchup.
<OscarL> s/the//
<OscarL> *the second one. :-P
<OscarL> ok, ok. k. Will add libpython3.10.so to weechat then... sigh.... :-P
<Begasus> k, lets build the testsuite for c_ares too ...
* OscarL git blames that one to see who borked it first :-P
* Begasus whistels ...
<OscarL> ok... weechat can run without lua installed. it just will just not support "/lua" commands. I expect the same for "/python".
<OscarL> but on the other hand... https://bpa.st/KAMQ << yup, while weechat doesn't *hard* requires libpython3.10.so or liblua.so.5.3... its plugins pretty much do so :-D
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<OscarL> And as we do not have a "RECOMMENDS"... adding lib:libpython3.10.so makes more sense for now.
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<Begasus> +1 ;)
<Begasus> 108 failed tests (no tests were run on previous version)
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<OscarL> mmm weechat has "-DENABLE_PERL=ON", but also no dependency on perl / libperl?
<Begasus> k, let's try this on previous version ...
<Begasus> perl is like one of those things that are automaticly included in a build I think? (without explicit REQUIRES)
<Begasus> like some scripts find python eventhough it isn't listed in a recipe
<OscarL> might be, judging by the lack of devel:libperl.
<Begasus> yeah
<Begasus> [ FAILED ] 109 tests, listed below:
<Begasus> one less failed in new version :)
<Begasus> Gentoo disables some tests, so I guess we're still OK :)
<OscarL> lddtree shows: "libperl.so => /packages/perl-5.32.1-1/.self/lib/perl5/5.32.1/x86_64-haiku/CORE/libperl.so" so... do we add lib:libperl.so then, I guess?
<Begasus> does it show up with readelf (on binary weechat)?
<OscarL> I would just disable perl, but that might angry some greybeards :-P
<Begasus> kiddies .... tss
<OscarL> Begasus: not for /bin/weechat, but for the plugins under /system/lib/weechat/plugins
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<Begasus> so there's a perl plugin?
<OscarL> yes, "perl.so"
<Begasus> then yes, add it :)
* OscarL clean ups after Begasus... again! :-P
<Begasus> I think it's one of those major advantages of weechat, the use of the plugins
<Begasus> someone has to :P
<Begasus> it's not an error, it's an enhancement :D
<OscarL> not sure about leaving cmd:perl... or actually requiring devel:libperl... guess only one way to find out...
<OscarL> (for BUILD_REQS, I mean)
<OscarL> but then again... libperl for x86, or gcc2 :-D
<OscarL> seems people can't make up their mind about dropping either one of those :-P
<Begasus> heh
<Begasus> and all because of frozen-bubble ;)
<Begasus> well ... started with texinfo
<OscarL> things tend to spiral out (or in) sometimes :-D
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<OscarL> weechat is !x86_gcc2, so I guess the correct thing to do would be to ask for devel:libperl$secondaryArchSuffix, but then we better end with perl_x86 as the only one on 32 bits.
<Begasus> yeah, but we're not there yet
<OscarL> then we either put weechat also on hold... or you promise to defend me when people blame me for the missing perl dep then! :-D
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<Begasus> just leave libperl out for now, I'll back you up :)
<Begasus> it's not like the only one that probably misses this in a recipe (although not being a hard requirement)
<Begasus> wished c_ares would write some log for the failed tests :/
<OscarL> Will add a comment on the PR, just in case :-D
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+2/-2/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/0f8df8263115...d2d734befebe
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus d2d734b - c_ares, bump version (#9508)
<Begasus> another one down :)
<OscarL> nice.
<OscarL> k... time for me to continue with my light reading: "Revision Guide for AMD Family 15h Models 00h-0Fh Processors"
<Begasus> light?
<Begasus> bugger, should disable the tests for gcc2 (c_ares)
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<jmairboeck> Good morning Begasus, OscarL!
<Begasus> g'morning jmairboeck :)
<jmairboeck> the perl situation is complicated for 32 bit right now, there has been quite some discussion but no decision yet
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-1/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/d2d734befebe...92662c5a9fa5
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] OscarL 92662c5 - markupsafe: update to version 2.1.3, recipe fixups. (#9507)
<jmairboeck> also, note that there is no "devel:libperl" because it's library is not installed in $libDir and there is no symlink in $developLibDir
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/92662c5a9fa5...0cc313df1ed5
<jmairboeck> there is also no perl_devel package
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus 0cc313d - c_ares, disable tests for gcc2 (#9509)
<OscarL> hello jmairboeck!
<Begasus> so, cmd:perl should be enough for now?
<Begasus> so far it's still the default (not perl_x86)
<jmairboeck> I would use lib:libperl$secondaryArchSuffix on it if it is linking libperl.so as the status quo, but that doesn't need to stay that way
<jmairboeck> waddlesplash also mentioned the possibility of using a "gcc2 linking hack" similar to ffmpeg. Not sure if this is a good idea.
<Begasus> I'll leave that up to the "real" deveopers to decide :)
<jmairboeck> it is complicated because it involves the (legacy) gcc build via texinfo
<Begasus> shouldn't the PR from korli fix that?
<jmairboeck> also, the secondaryArch perl doesn't work correctly yet concerning loading other libraries, as seen by sdl_perl
<jmairboeck> yes, for the newer texinfo-7, which drops the dependeny on perl_x86
<Begasus> rightt
<jmairboeck> so we could remove perl_x86 again and only keep the primary arch perl (using gcc2 on x86), but that wouldn't help for frozen-bubble (probably) and also for weechat, if I understood that correctly
<Begasus> k, c_ares for gcc2 fine now
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] autocommitter pushed 1 commit to master [hrev57288] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=8deedc28b387+%5Ef0a016dcb150
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 8deedc28b387 - Update translations from Pootle
<Begasus> so far weechat uses cmd:perl not cmd:perl$secondaryArchSuffix, so that shouldn't be an issue?
<jmairboeck> it probably doesn't work, or does it build correctly with the gcc2 libperl.so?
<jmairboeck> I would be surprised if so
<Begasus> it never complained (but libperl wasn't or isn't mentioned in the recipe)
<jmairboeck> is the perl plugin then even built for 32-bit? what does it link to (according to the rpath, probably)? and does it work?
<Begasus> that I don't know :)
<jmairboeck> but that is the ultimate question of course ;)
<Begasus> yep, there's perl.so in the 32bit version
<jmairboeck> we want to build working software in the end, don't we? :)
<Begasus> we "try" to ;)
<Begasus> how can I check rpath on it?
<jmairboeck> readelf -d
<Begasus> on the plugin or on the binary?
<jmairboeck> on perl.so
<jmairboeck> it should print a bunch of stuff
<jmairboeck> or maybe even better: you could run weechat and check with listimage what libraries it loaded
<Begasus_32> https://bpa.st/HCZA
<phschafft> haha (ref: we want... we try...)
<Begasus> we get lucky? ;)
<jmairboeck> ok, that links to the gcc2 libperl.so
* OscarL mumbles: `lddtree /system/lib/x86/weechat/plugins/perl.so` output is nicer :-P
<Begasus> ah, now I see rpath in there ;)
<jmairboeck> thanks OscarL, always nice to learn new tools :)
<OscarL> just passing along what I find here too :-D
* OscarL points to chrpath PR, now out of draft status (after patchelf got merged... why not? :-P)
<Begasus> see, sometimes I do something that's functional :P
<Begasus> lddtree doesn't mention rpath OscarL :P
<OscarL> I mean... if patchelf got accepted... chrpath might as well too (it is independent from patchelf, BTW) :-P
<Begasus> ah lol
<Begasus> only those interested in it will use it
<Begasus> and if you have a need for it why not (if it's working for you)
<OscarL> "libperl.so => /packages/perl-5.32.1-1/.self/lib/perl5/5.32.1/x86_64-haiku/CORE/libperl.so" <<< tell me the RPATH without telling me it is the RPATH ;-D
<Begasus> no idea what that means :P
<OscarL> I mean... compare readelf line: " 0x0000000f (RPATH) Library rpath: [/packages/perl-5.32.1-1/.self/lib/perl5/5.32.1/BePC-haiku/CORE]" vs the one I posted.
<OscarL> *that is from lddtree
<Begasus> that mentions "Library rpath" :P
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<OscarL> thus why I wrote "tell me the RPATH without telling me it is that"... lddtree output kinda implies it.
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<OscarL> this RPATH talk, reminds me why I needed chrpath... trying to port the tilde editor was driving me nuts with its convoluted build process. Got it to compile/work... only to discover that it stopped working if I moved it away from the dirs where it was built! :-D
<Begasus> still in favor of readelf :)
<OscarL> it set RPATH to exactly those dirs, and nowhere else, so... you tried to install it anywhere else... you broke it :-D
<Begasus> all good on buildmasters and reports :)
<Begasus> hence some recipe disable RPATH in there?
<OscarL> I think so, yes.
<Begasus> well, I see it used by others through repology also
<OscarL> (all this make harder by me not even knowing what an RPATH was before hand)
<OscarL> s/make/made/
<OscarL> reminded me of that "how to make packagers cry" talk that nephele linked days ago :-D
<Begasus> never to old to learn new things :)
<Begasus> 175 project(s) on this page ... that was 178 yesterday ;)
<OscarL> Beware! if you reach "0"? it might just roll back to 0xFF :P
<Begasus> By tomorrow there could be a few new ones :P
<OscarL> "No rest for the wicked" :-/
* OscarL is about to tackle some tuna + bread instead :P
<OscarL> but yeah... lots of things to update.
<Begasus> heh enjoy ;)
<Begasus> only 126, not that much :P
<OscarL> Thanks! nothing like "dinner" at 6 AM :P
<Begasus> lol
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<aa72> Begasus : have you a link 4 the patch you talk about ? ;)
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<Begasus> whitch patch aa72?
<aa72> read the patch Luke ...
<Begasus> ah, found it yes :)
<aa72> np
<aa72> ;)
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<Begasus> k, someone with more knowlidge will have to take a look at bind_utils (reported vulnarable also at repology)
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<andreasdr[m]> Hi there.
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<erysdren> howdy
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<andreasdr[m]> :)
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<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus pushed 1 commit to master [+2/-2/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/0cc313df1ed5...d588c77023c5
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] Begasus d588c77 - capnproto, bump version (#9511)
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<Begasus> All tests passed! (think that's a good thing) :)
<Coldfirex> Thanks for all your work Begasus!
<Begasus> np Coldfirex, love doing it, keeps the old brain working for a bit :)
<Coldfirex> hah nice
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<Begasus> nice to see someone mentioning why they don't package the binary for crypto++ :) # Remove cryptest.exe and test files, only needed for check() and bloats the package
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<waddlesplash> jmairboeck: you confirm the new nightly with -fno-tree-vectorization works fine on hyperv?
<waddlesplash> Coldfirex: I can do a debugging session today, if you're around as well
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] waddlesplash pushed 1 commit to master [hrev57289] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=a944d6a02d6f+%5E8deedc28b387
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] a944d6a02d6f - boot/atari_m68k: fix crash on boot menu
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] waddlesplash pushed 1 commit to master [hrev57290] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=a72ea36f9595+%5Ea944d6a02d6f
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] a72ea36f9595 - boot/atari_m68k: add revision number to bootloader binary
<Coldfirex> Ive got about 30 minutes so sure
<jmairboeck> waddlesplash: I didn't have a chance to test yet, I don't have my work laptop at home right now, so I'll have to setup a new VM first
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<Begasus> closing down, cu peeps!
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<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] waddlesplash pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-1/±0] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/d588c77023c5...8b0c240d4214
<botifico> [haikuports/haikuports] waddlesplash 8b0c240 - intel_wifi_firmwares: Bump version.
<Anarchos> hello
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<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] d0c34f93310e - kernel/debug: Invoke cpu_pause in trap_cpu_in_kdl.
<waddlesplash> Coldfirex: your comment about fan-spin up led me to determine we can safely do that ^^
<waddlesplash> completely solves that problem
<waddlesplash> I'd noticed the same on my own machines for years but never actually thought about it
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<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] waddlesplash pushed 2 commits to master [hrev57292] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=76681bd900c2+%5Ed0c34f93310e
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] ef9e2f627b00 - kernel/arch: Make arch_debug_get_caller() a macro implemented by a builtin.
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 76681bd900c2 - kernel: Rewrite B_DEBUG_SPINLOCK_CONTENTION.
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<erysdren> can you rebind the "action" key from left alt to left OS key?
<erysdren> i can't seem to adjust to that
<erysdren> er, left alt --> left ctrl
<erysdren> ALT+C to copy is just not intuitive for me, i'd prefer CTRL+C
<waddlesplash> open Keymap
<waddlesplash> click "Switch shortcuts to Windows/Linux mode"
<erysdren> oh heck yeah, thank you\
<waddlesplash> note that "interrupt" in Terminal will now be Alt+C
<erysdren> got it
<erysdren> kinda weird to me
<erysdren> but hey, i'd rather have CTRL+C for copying even if it means i lose CTRL+C for interrupt
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<erysdren> also, is there a way to upgrade all packages in the system?
<erysdren> equivalent of Arch Linux pacman -Syyu
<waddlesplash> pkgman full-sync
<waddlesplash> note this can downgrade things if the remote versions are lower than installed
<waddlesplash> "pkgman update" will do updates only
<erysdren> thanks
<erysdren> oh and a random question about porting - "-ldl" is not a valid lib to link for gcc, i assume this is a linuxism?
<erysdren> can i just remove it, or do i need to link something else for haiku in its place?
<waddlesplash> remove, yes
<waddlesplash> its functions are found in the base system C library
<erysdren> cool
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] waddlesplash pushed 1 commit to master [hrev57293] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=d95a9b63f780+%5E76681bd900c2
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] d95a9b63f780 - iaxwifi200: Synchronize to OpenBSD trunk.
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<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] waddlesplash pushed 2 commits to master [hrev57294] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=d8bca3564a07+%5Ed95a9b63f780
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 2d42fb1a9a5b - Tracker: Adjust open button status when B_DIRECTORY_NODE is set.
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] d8bca3564a07 - Tracker: Check whether the default button is disabled on double-click.
<waddlesplash> augiedoggie_ will be happy about that one :)
<augiedoggie_> i can probably remove the BRefFilter from Beezer
<waddlesplash> well, non-directories will still be displayed
<waddlesplash> whereas the ref-filter hides them entirely, right?
<augiedoggie_> yeah
<waddlesplash> so maybe worth keeping nonetheless
<augiedoggie_> i was debating that
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