<Begasus>
to make it work also? (iirc there were issues using it)
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<OscarL>
seems to work OK here (the version already on repos)
<Begasus>
ah, maybe fixed in the meantime, easy fix then :)
<OscarL>
"This application is available via pkgman install fish"
<OscarL>
might as well fix the quotations there while I'm at it :-D
<OscarL>
lol, the patchset has 5 commits by me already :-D
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<OscarL>
Should probably send them up upstream :-)
<OscarL>
Mmm "Failed to find a match for "mock_python3.10": Name not found" :-D
<OscarL>
(only because I wanted to run "hp --test")
<Begasus>
it's in TEST_REQUIRES though
<Begasus>
maybe not on par yet :)
<OscarL>
yes, but not really needed. Will drop it from there, and wlll open a PR to just drop the mock package, we don't need it any more (it comes with Python already)
<OscarL>
(not really neded since 3.7 at least :-D)
<Begasus>
ah ,.. give it a kick then :)
<OscarL>
done
<OscarL>
now I wonder if I should try to see how tzselect manages to crash /bin/date... or just leave it be :-D
<Begasus>
fighting with how to set the conflicts on the cairo/xcairo packages :)
<botifico>
[haikuports/haikuports] OscarL 3562cba - mock: drop this now unneded recipe. (#9521)
<OscarL>
pheeew! :-D
<OscarL>
(was kinda expecting a -1 there, or something :-D)
<Begasus>
k, rebuild adding the docs
<Begasus>
guess he follows the logs too :P
<Begasus>
think I should push the new meson through also
<Begasus>
works fine here
<OscarL>
Hi korli-san! (just in case)
<Begasus>
probably should disable building the test for buildmasters (only usefull for local checks)
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<Begasus>
Oh and write down the errors when not using the patch for the tests
<HaikuUser>
There is no audio source as I want to record some sound. Looks like a missing audio driver to me. Which one should I use or is there something else missing?
<Begasus>
probably related to this part of the patch "#include <fenv.h>" but adding it again didn't solve it
<OscarL>
I've found a mini-PCIe WiFi card that works fine with Haiku! (RTL8188EE)... from my father's laptop (need to fix it for him). Now I need to see If I can swap that for the other I have (RTL8191SE, no Haiku driver) :-D
<Begasus>
err ... werror ... huning that down ...
<Begasus>
this is the first error: ../test/cairo-test.c:146:5: error: implicit declaration of function 'feenableexcept'; did you mean 'feraiseexcept'? [-Werror=implicit-function-declaration]
<HaikuUser>
$U
<Begasus>
not an expert on HW here HaikuUser
<OscarL>
HaikuUser: I assume you have tried changing the selected input in the "Recording" tab of the Media preflet? (assuming you have something there)
<Begasus>
checked the forum, should be plenty around there
<OscarL>
(making sure things are unmuted, correct volumes, etc)
<Begasus>
'-Wno-error-implicit-function-declaration' did the trick :)
<Begasus>
undefined reference to `memmem'
<Begasus>
k, this still needs a fix ...
<Begasus>
saw at haikuports that those part of code is disabled for Haiku, missing funtion somewhere?
<OscarL>
memem is on "headers/gnu/string.h"
<OscarL>
need to define _GNU_SOURCE ?
<Begasus>
let me check
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<Begasus>
#define _GNU_SOURCE ... didn't do the trick
<augiedoggie>
undefined reference during linking? you might need to add -lgnu
<OscarL>
-libgnu
<OscarL>
what augiedoggie said.
<Begasus>
ah :)
<OscarL>
"/boot/system/lib/libgcc_s.so" << why is that a text file ?
<Begasus>
thanks!
<Begasus>
beats me OscarL, poke nielx[m]? ;)
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<OscarL>
I only notice because my "lgrep()" bash function to find where symbols are defined (it does `nm -A --defined-only $lib | grep $1` on /system/lib/*.so) complained about it :-D
<OscarL>
meanwhile... you might like some of these Begasus: https://bpa.st/HRBQ
<OscarL>
I got none of those installed to check :-D
<Begasus>
tsss ..
<Begasus>
I could use that one yesterday OscarL :)
<OscarL>
heh
<Begasus>
skewd up my working fork, so had to cleanup and re-fork, one advantage, fork is clean again now :P
<Begasus>
list_work_dirs only shows one atm :D
<OscarL>
I think I haven't had to "re-clone to fix things" in almost a year. Either getting better at not screwing it up, or got better at recovering from self-inflicted issues :-D
<OscarL>
114 here, yikes!
<Begasus>
heh
<OscarL>
need one to remove "work-*" for older versions.
<Begasus>
yeah, stupid mistake yesterday and didn't feel like messing around to much with git, so just cleaned and started fresh
<Begasus>
ok, cairo1.18 and xcairo1.18 conflict with each other (as current ones do), added conflict for the devel_packages for the current ones in cairo1.18 and xcairo1.18
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<Begasus>
base packages (either one of the two) should be ok to be installed next to each other
<Begasus>
will push the changes into a PR and see what happens :)
<OscarL>
ran "ir cairo" earlier today and thought: "Welp... good thing I'm not Begasus! I wish him the best of luck with the 1.18 update!"
<Begasus>
well, actually it wasn't that hard ones I got meson figured out :)
<Begasus>
missed the docs so had to add some for that too
<Begasus>
one python package needed for the docs
<Begasus>
pygments_python310
<OscarL>
but all those recipes that use cairo... mmm scary thing!
<Begasus>
hence I'm not dropping the current version :)
<OscarL>
ah... clever boy!
<Begasus>
I can install the new one without breaking things, only the devel packages for new and old can't be co-installed
* OscarL
finds an old branch "wip/vbox-ga-7.0" one of these days I'll give it another go! (I hope).
<Begasus>
cleaned up on branches a while back here :)
<Begasus>
missed this one :) Warning: POLICY WARNING: Invalid top-level package entry "share"
<Begasus>
doesn't seem to respect --datadir ...
<Begasus>
k, now move the documentation to the devel package :)
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<OscarL>
mmm, our util-linux doesn't seems to include "cmd:rev"...
<OscarL>
do we need to --enable each individual command on the recipe?
<Begasus>
I try to stay away when I can
<Begasus>
only one way to find out OscarL :)
<OscarL>
"--disable-all-programs" + some "--enable-xxx" seems to :-(
<OscarL>
not a fun package (8 MB tarball)
<Begasus>
tss :P
<Begasus>
peanut :P
<Begasus>
ps, tried cairo-1.17.8 untill I found a way to patch it for the tests, then moved to the latest release (so got 3 downloaded version about 40MiB each) :)
<OscarL>
old PC + slow VM + slow HDD... every KB hurts here :-D
<Begasus>
got that on the other laptop (32bit) :/
<Begasus>
but should check cairo there to see if it builds ok also
* OscarL
leaves cmd:rev for another time (I just problably switch to using Python instead of bash).
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<OscarL>
back to see if I can find how tzselect kills /bin/date (will make for good practice reading bash code, at least... I hope)
<Begasus>
k, another round for xcairo
<Begasus>
heh
<Begasus>
building without tests, minus 500 objects :)
<Begasus>
heh, just saw this, in CudaText color numbers are reflected in the screen :)
<Begasus>
#0B0 shows a green line under it :)
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<OscarL>
mmm tzselect only crashes /bin/date when using /bin/tzelect (after installation), if I use the one from the work-* dir.. it doesn't crashes.
<aa72>
befilesystem => too much ? ;)
<Begasus>
rpath?
* Begasus
ducks
<OscarL>
tzselect does this: "TZdate=`LANG=C TZ="$TZ_for_date" date`", with $TZ_for_date being a path to, say, /system/data/zoneinfo/America/Argentina/Buenos_Aires. That seems to work (from the work-* dir)
<OscarL>
I suspect once it is installed... it tries to use something like "/packages/timezone_data-2023c-1/.self/data/zoneinfo/America/Argentina/Buenos_Aires" instead, and that crashes /bin/date.
<OscarL>
Indeed, that crashes it.
<OscarL>
Now to see what korli thinks of my mad bug-hunting skillz! :-P
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<Begasus>
nice catch though :)
<OscarL>
found it much faster than I expected, at least :-D (was preparing myself to get frustrated by this one).
<Begasus>
probably been there before ;)
<OscarL>
LOL, just noticed that korli reacted with the "eyes" emoji to that crash report, heh. (just about to post my new findings there)
<Begasus>
about 3minutes to build cairo on this one :)
<OscarL>
noice!
<Begasus>
lol
<Begasus>
this is a nice way to list the options for the tests ... https://bpa.st/N2QA NOT! :)
<OscarL>
nice ASCII art... I see a dog on a praire!
<Begasus>
twisted mind there :P
<OscarL>
you just need to squint your eyes... A LOT :-P
<phschafft>
I can see at least the waves.
* phschafft
actually considers to screenshot that and paint over it...
<Begasus>
heh
<Begasus>
at least it comes with a nice README :)
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<Begasus>
Note: These failures may be due to external factors.
<Begasus>
would be nice to know what those are :P
<Begasus>
32bit build starting ...
<OscarL>
the economy, climate change, bad luck, you're holding the laptop wrong... so many factors! :-P
<Begasus>
lol
<OscarL>
mmm seems nielx[m] (with his latest GCC PR) want to rob me of my excuse to NOT work on the scipy/numpy/networkx/etc recipes :-D
<Begasus>
does it fix it?
<OscarL>
Apparently :-(
<OscarL>
:-P (thanks for working on that libgfortran issue nielx[m]!!!)
<Begasus>
you should do a local build to verify :P
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<OscarL>
aha, funny guy!
<Begasus>
you can't always trust on others to fix your issues without checking :P
<botifico>
[haikuports/haikuports] threedeyes 1770fe0 - tg_owt: switch to ffmpeg5
<Begasus>
got haiku-r1~beta4_hrev57207-1-x86_64.hpkg in /Opslag/Haiku-temp/haiku/generated.x86_64/objects/haiku/x86_64/packaging/repositories/Haiku/packages
<Begasus>
For some reason the build apps also show up in "Open with..."
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<Begasus>
maybe I should clean that directory fully
<OscarL>
to be sure... AboutSystem shows the wrong date/time too?
<botifico>
[haikuports/haikuports] threedeyes cd76941 - Telegram: bump version
<Anarchos>
Begasus: my transformer died...
<Anarchos>
Begasus: no more access to my haiku laptop :/
<Begasus>
jikes Anarchos :/
<Coldfirex>
Any time for an update to stress-ng?
<Anarchos>
Begasus: i have this laptop since 2011, so the power alimentation died or 3 times ....
<Begasus>
out of date? (didn't hit it yet through repology)
<Begasus>
ah, still had a long life then Anarchos
<OscarL>
Coldfirex: depends on how easy it is to apply the existing patchsets to the newer version.
<OscarL>
I can give it ago before heading to bed.
<Anarchos>
Begasus: i take care of my laptops. But the hp 17 of my wife, bought in 2021 already died yesterday (i suspect the nvme disk, cause of my intensive netflix)
<Begasus>
it's not reported as vulnerable :)
<Begasus>
twice jikes Anarchos :/
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<Begasus>
note to self ... don't use netflix on the laptop :)
<Begasus>
I don't even watch it on tv :)
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<Begasus>
shouldn't be to hard OscarL
<OscarL>
on it... let's see.
<Begasus>
but you need to check it on both arch's :)
<OscarL>
mmm
<Begasus>
seperate _x86 patch
<OscarL>
need a faster PC so I can run two VMs :-D
<Begasus>
heh, or just stay tuned untill the sun comes up again :P
<Begasus>
with some luck patches apply without rebasing :)
<OscarL>
first patch applied cleanly, but ran hp -e anyway, so the patchset reflects the proper lines now.
<Begasus>
~> lgrep getpass
<Begasus>
/boot/system/lib/libbsd.so:0000000000004d70 T getpass
<Begasus>
this proves to be handy ;)
<OscarL>
indeed.
<Begasus>
ah, and usually don't do that, maybe should
<Begasus>
and/I/*
<OscarL>
updating patches that way makes it easier to apply when using "hp -G" so... :-D
<Begasus>
still not doing that all the time here :)
<Anarchos>
Begasus: what is lgrep ?
<Begasus>
handy, no soname changes for curl and cyrus_sasl :)
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<Begasus>
function to search for symbols, OscarL gave me the link earlier
<nekobot>
[haiku/haiku] 98895d0417b6 - riscv64/mmu: use struct bitfield for flags and std::atomic
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<nagerst>
WOW this channel has grown tremendously!
<nagerst>
used to be just a few dozen peaople at max.
<nagerst>
i am old, and out of the loop. So there is that.
<phschafft>
just wanted to ask over what timespan that was.
<nagerst>
i was very active the the BeOS community. my interest faded around 2004, picked back up in waves
<erysdren>
howdy!
<nagerst>
howdy friend!
<nagerst>
I really like that Jessicah got the fix through so i can install Haiku on my 44 core system without having to edit anything. Thanks again.
<nagerst>
it was a true 'assle before.
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<nagerst>
speed and performance is amazing so far. I will compare the Quake three performance with my P3-Xeon quad machine on the voodoo5 to see what FPS i get.
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<nagerst>
clicking processcontroller and scrolling through cores is a hoot
<nagerst>
In BeOS 44 cores would mean a maximum of 23mb per core....
<nagerst>
as 5.1 had a max or 768mb it would be even funnier
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<nagerst-haiku>
i really like that there is a theme manager now so i can change border colours from gray
<nagerst-haiku>
is the scrollbars of epiphany fixable or are you stuck with non-native?
<nagerst-haiku>
i mean everything is fixable, but at what cost in time and work. Is it just a toggle or a full rewrite?
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<nagerst-haiku>
i am still stuck in 1920p, but i do not mind. Feels a little snappier.
<nagerst-haiku>
Aaaah i love that the deskbar is also fixed so we do no longer have that dead space ojn the side
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<Coldfirex>
@nagerst: No issues running Haiku under 44 cores?
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<nagerst-haiku>
Coldfirex nope, before the fix i hade to press space at every launch (got tedious) and change settings. Jessicah was most helpful and told me what to alter to not have to do that any more.
<nagerst-haiku>
everything is different in haiku but somehow a bit the same. Sometimes i just want to play W5 on my BeOS machine and not bother with the internet. It is better now of course in terms of capabilites, but running playstation1 games like wipeout on BeOS was pretty rad. =D
<nagerst-haiku>
no it is not a limitation of haiku
<B2IA>
(Butler) Welcome to BeShare.agmsmith.ca.
<nagerst-haiku>
i think there is no reasonable upper limit of cpu's in newos. Alex or Geist could probably tell you how it works.
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<nagerst-haiku>
B2IA an enormous gift would be time stamps in beshare
<aa72>
beshare : wrong name ? too much ? ;)
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<nagerst-haiku>
WOW the virtual void shared on beshare is a BILLION times better than the demo material of olden years
<nagerst-haiku>
is it remastered, or is it just that good?
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<nagerst-haiku>
I have forgotten how to hide server messages in Vision. Can anyone help an old fellah out?
<nagerst-haiku>
laos where can i find a samba tutorial for haiku?
<Begasus>
wb nagerst-haiku then :)
<Begasus>
hi nephele!
<nephele>
hi begasus
<Begasus>
saw my message earlier about nheko?
<nagerst>
hi Begasus, delightful to see you are still about.
<Begasus>
iirc you said there were some issues still need to be resolved
<Begasus>
yeah, old fart here too nagerst :)
<nagerst>
hehe
<nephele>
Begasus: i did not
<Begasus>
got my 6 in front this year :D
<nagerst>
my father, bless his soul is 87 and still uses the BeOS machine i gave him to cut templates drawn in GoBE
<Begasus>
ah, there is a new PR at github for it, wanted to let you have a look first :)
<Begasus>
nice nagerst!
<Begasus>
only got BeOS somewhere virtual, but moved over allong the way
<nagerst>
yeah it would be torture for him to learn another package. mean i am set in my ways, but dag nabbit he wont change or eat vegetables.
<Begasus>
heh
<Begasus>
stoburn when they get older ;)
<nephele>
Begasus: hmm, what do you want me to review? I'm not sure what the recipe is about, the old ones is not deleted so there is no diff
<Begasus>
bugger ... haven't investigated there :)
<B2IA>
nagerst Timestamps in BeShare? Log or files? Both have them, just need to turn on the display.
<nagerst>
no i mean file age
<nagerst>
as when last altered
<nagerst>
not last copied
<B2IA>
Turn on the modified column.
<Begasus>
25years :)
<B2IA>
Ah, copied vs true date. That would be a bit of work.
<nephele>
Well, it definetely has some wierd deps
<nagerst-haiku>
hehe silly me
<Begasus>
PhOS image ... :)
<nagerst-haiku>
Have any of you tried the corss plattform console called alacritty?
<nagerst-haiku>
Tried it on windows and it is so fast
<erysdren>
i havent, i just use whatever comes with my linux distro :P
<erysdren>
that sounds cool though
<nagerst-haiku>
gnome devs claim they can do better, but we all know what that means.
<nagerst-haiku>
alacritty also runs on windows and also demolishes powershell
<nagerst-haiku>
around 4000% faster than powershell
<botifico>
[haiku/website] andponlin c9dd50e - Add additional examples in the code style guide
<Begasus>
if not you can file an issue for it at haikuports :)
<nagerst-haiku>
also email is not working for me. I have nowhere in the config to set the ports to function with yahoo mail.
<Begasus>
maybe something can be found on the forum about that nagerst-haiku? I use webmail with Otter-browser
<nagerst-haiku>
Begasus i could probably port threadbasher rather quickly. but i am lazy
<Begasus>
hehe
<erysdren>
love to see all the activity in here!
<nephele>
nagerst-haiku: just ":port" iirc
<nephele>
in the adress field
<erysdren>
my claim to fame is that i ported QuakeSpasm to haiku :3
<nagerst-haiku>
Begasus webmail functions just fine.
<nagerst-haiku>
erysdren i have no fame at all. i wrote some drivers back in the day and also ported lots of software. (most sucked, but worked)
<nagerst-haiku>
is infamy the right word?
<erysdren>
also my upcoming indie game will be available on Haiku
<nephele>
Begasus: I give up, that stupid web interface is too hard to use
<zdykstra>
my claim to fame is that I once cooked an egg over-easy without breaking the yolk
<Begasus>
np nephele, thanks for trying
<nagerst-haiku>
On bebits my s3 lynx driver got so much hate that i almost cried. "It worked for me, god damn it"
<Begasus>
oh, the old days of BeBits :D
<nagerst-haiku>
the comments was brutal
<nagerst-haiku>
it was the Be Twitter
<zdykstra>
oh, my claim to fame is that I went to college with the BeBits author
<Begasus>
nice zdykstra :)
<nagerst-haiku>
I would call it BeATwit =D
<Begasus>
avent la lettre :D
<erysdren>
my game will be the haiku killer app
<erysdren>
nah jk lol
<nagerst-haiku>
i also attempted to help "judgen" in his god knows how many ports of wine to BeOS and that is indeed a wacky person, but a somewhat of a retarded genius.
<Begasus>
remember I contacted the original porter for scummvm if I could take over (or add a new release) back then
<nagerst-haiku>
he got office 95 working on beos.
<Begasus>
woot
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<nagerst-haiku>
yup
<nagerst-haiku>
he now works for the governent of sweden.
<Coldfirex>
nagerst-haiku: Give stress-ng a whirl for that
<nagerst-haiku>
Coldfirex thanks
<erysdren>
brb
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<nephele>
Begasus
<nephele>
I've created a forum topic about haikuports moving to gerrit
<nephele>
if you want to weigh in
<Begasus>
will add my 2 cents, I'm ok either way, as long as the transition isn't too hard :)
<nagerst-haiku>
it is too big it takes half an bloody minute to scroll down half of it
<nephele>
alt -
<nephele>
or alt scroll down
<aa72>
alternative
<nagerst-haiku>
nephele alt- worked
<nagerst-haiku>
i forget that i am back in beos land where commands make sense
<aa72>
halt = shutdown -h now xD
<Begasus>
nagerst-haiku, there is still a stress-ng version available for install
<Begasus>
a PR is open atm for the latest version
<nagerst-haiku>
Begasus not in haikudepot.
<nephele>
waddlesplash: what's the advantage of branch based? the only pr's I've ever seen on github have been one commit doing something and then severall after it with nonsense commit messages requiring you to squash anyway
<nephele>
branches make sense sometimes, but very infrequently. and gerrit does support branches :g
<waddlesplash>
not readily it doesn't
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<waddlesplash>
the GitHub workflow is actually feasible to review large branches with series of commits
<nagerst-haiku>
it usually leads to fragmentation in my experience. but i am old.
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<waddlesplash>
Gerrit just isn't
<waddlesplash>
very easy for stuff to get lost on Gerrit, too]
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<nephele>
The branch stuff can be improved slightly, sure. but it's optimizing for the abnormal case and not the common one
<Begasus>
not sure I have some backup of it also :/
<Begasus>
but heck, Haiku keeps me busy :)
<nagerst-haiku>
Begasus i saw this in the 00s but i never got why her face is in it and why anyone would want to look at it. I mean she is about average. https://ibb.co/album/hBLpB7
<Begasus>
We were young once nagerst-haiku :P
<Begasus>
or "younger" :P
<nagerst-haiku>
does not feel like it.
<nagerst-haiku>
keeping busy is what keeps old coots alive.
<nagerst-haiku>
once they stop, they stop
<Begasus>
right, try to keep this brain at work too when I can :)
<nagerst-haiku>
Begasus i refuse the premise that i was ever young. I woke up one day as a tiny cranky old man
<Begasus>
now it's time to give it a rest
<Begasus>
hehe
<nagerst-haiku>
some one took pity and nurtured me to a larged cranky old man
<nagerst-haiku>
=D
<nagerst-haiku>
And now i have blossomed to a very cranky old man.
<nagerst-haiku>
lol
<Begasus>
OscarL is awake again, he's looking into updating our port for stress-ng, maybe he pops in shortly (if you do OscarL make sure you add the bash-completions) :)
<Begasus>
you need to get your hands dirty again nagerst-haiku, get the fun back
<nagerst-haiku>
Begasus did i get to know your cpu model?
<nagerst-haiku>
yeah i feel like it
<Begasus>
yeah, showed the screenshot with the BeOS background, there is a replicant from the About window :)
<Begasus>
k, closing down here, nice talking to you again nagerst-haiku
<erysdren>
cya Begasus
<nagerst-haiku>
Do you still have the wallpaper from 1998 that disses on the imac. "Where life is still beatutiful"
<Begasus>
hope to see you around
<Begasus>
cya erysdren :)
<Begasus>
only ones in there are in the album nagerst-haiku
<nagerst-haiku>
Begasus hug
<Begasus>
maybe some far away backup ... :)
<Begasus>
g'night peeps!
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<nagerst-haiku>
"life is good, and still beautiful" - Be Slogan for a VERY short time.
<nagerst-haiku>
hehe
<nagerst-haiku>
if anyone can find the original poster i would pay for it
<nagerst-haiku>
nah it is 9:00 and i have to catch my flicht. I hope you all have a lovely day/night and be safe. Good night.
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