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<Not-c620> [haiku/website] waddlesplash pushed 1 commit to master [+1/-0/±0] https://github.com/haiku/website/compare/5e903d7a9878...8b6ab56a3ebf
<Not-c620> [haiku/website] waddlesplash 8b6ab56 - Combined contract & activity report for January.
<Not-c620> [haiku/website] waddlesplash deleted branch activity-report
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<Not-c620> [haikuports/haikuports] threedeyes pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±2] https://github.com/haikuports/haikuports/compare/31f580f10968...e7e6144dec26
<Not-c620> [haikuports/haikuports] threedeyes e7e6144 - GLFW: rework backend, implement window resize
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<nephele> Is there a proper way to make a desktop shortcut to a website? One way seems to be to have a shellscript call open or webpositive explicitly, but that is a bit ehhh. I tried adding a file with type application/x-vnd.Be.URL.https, but instead of the content webpositive will try to open the path (as a file: uri). It seems to me that i may be missing a mechanism?
<jessicah> look at a bookmark file, that's what web+ creates
<nephele> Ah, that makes sense, thanks!
<nephele> made myself a link for neverssl... maybe we can have a captive portal detection in the future (iirc there is some protocol for this now)
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<nephele> made a ticket for captive portals with links to the relevant rfcs :)
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<mmu_man> I guess I should watch this and upstream the Haiku port someday https://fosdem.org/2022/schedule/event/valgrind_freebsd/
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<andreasdr[m]> mmu_man Having valgrind would be super nice on Haiku. I regulary use it to find bugs.
<BrunoSpr> hello all... I cannot install Scribus because of missing lib:poppler! Which poppler lib I have to install? http://0x0.st/oXZg.png
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<mmu_man> andreasdr[m]: nothing done except some configure patching IIRC
<andreasdr[m]> Ok. I guess Valgrind is heavy complicated territory.
<andreasdr[m]> To port to Haiku
<mmu_man> yeah it replaces the loader and the syscall interface with its own…
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<andreasdr[m]> Ok.
<andreasdr[m]> Crazyyyyyy.
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<bbjimmy_64> Software updater wants me to de-install libreoffice
<AGMS> Looks like something got mangled, bbjimmy_64.
<AGMS> Does a full sync in pkgman work?
<bbjimmy_64> package libreoffice-7.2.0.4-2 requires lib:libpoppler>=104.0.0, but none of the providers can be installed
<AlienSoldier> how does image preview need to be set in tracker. reading it is fixed in the report but i can't see them
<AGMS> That also happens when they switch compilers from gcc2 to gcc8+
<bbjimmy_64> - keep poppler-20.11.0-3 from excluded repository
<AlienSoldier> so far i have checked "generate image thumbnail". Also restarted tracker.
<AlienSoldier> r55843, so the fix should be in
<augiedoggie> AlienSoldier: are the files identified as images, i have to right click on them before tracker will start generating a thumbnail
<AGMS> bbjimmy_64, maybe manually drag the libreoffice packages out of the system directory to save them, reboot, then try installing LibraOffice again?
<bbjimmy_64> I did pkgman update and libreoffice still runs
<AlienSoldier> augiedoggie yes. the icon does not look different that said
<augiedoggie> i don't know, i turned the feature off because it was behaving badly
<AlienSoldier> augiedoggie weird, it work now in another directory. I guess some jpeg are not compliant.
<augiedoggie> heh
<AlienSoldier> in most directory i don't want it but in a picture directory it make sense
<AGMS> LibreOffice still runs but isn't installed? Or did you have two of them installed?
<AlienSoldier> augiedoggie some require clicking, some don't. I guess that depend if i got them with wget or webpositive.
<AlienSoldier> some don't work even after clicking even if they load fine in imageviewer
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<augiedoggie> i think webpositive sets the mimetype of the file when it downloads, the other need to be identified by tracker
<bbjimmy_64> AGMS it didn't work, it installed upgrade package poppler-20.11.0-3 to 22.01.0-1 from repository HaikuPorts and upgrade package poppler_qt5-20.11.0-3 to 22.01.0-1 from repository HaikuPorts
<AGMS> Possibly someone set up LibreOffice with bad dependency version numbers.
<bbjimmy_64> I can't onstall the proper packages over the ones pkgman full=sync put in there.
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<B2IA> (AGMS) And of course HaikuPorts builds packages requiring the latest version, even though an older version of a dependency would work.
<AGMS> You might have to throw everything away (old packages) and start fresh. Currently doing that - setting up a new Haiku nightly install to see if I can build it, old installs are too different.
<bbjimmy_64> in this case, it installed an older version than the one I had installed.
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<AGMS> You may be able to have both by installing your special versions of things in Home rather than System. Assuming the versions are actually compatible with each other.
<bbjimmy_64> looks like a version of dll hell. krita requires one version of poppler and libreoffice requires another.
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<AGMS> If both are on HaikuPorts, you may be able to manually rebuild them so they have consistent dependencies.
<AGMS> But that's a bit of work.
<AlienSoldier> tracker pref does not have an icon size slider like the deskbar pref have? How do we set the tracker windows icon size?
<waddlesplash> bbjimmy_64: open a ticket at HaikuPorts. likely we missed some things
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<AlienSoldier> ho now i see it
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<AlienSoldier> is 128 a hardcoded limitation. It is large enough for icon but for picture preview i could take 4 time that amount and perhaps 8 time that if i was having a small monitor.
<bbjimmy> I placed libreoffice and the proper poppler in ~/config/packages and now both libreoffice and krita work
<B2IA> (AGMS) Great! The Home ones override the System ones, for each particular user's home directory.
<bbjimmy> Haiku should be able to resolve these issues.
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<B2IA> (AGMS) Well, if there's bad dependency version data input, you get garbage.
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<augiedoggie> julicenri: a while back you were asking about slowdowns with vmware? i figured out the problem in my case, i needed to set a sysctl parameter vm.compaction_proactiveness=0
<augiedoggie> vmware and kcompactd0 will get into a fight and slow everything down :P
<Not-c620> [haiku/generate-download-pages] kallisti5 pushed 1 commit to master [+0/-0/±1] https://github.com/haiku/generate-download-pages/compare/6bfc16023859...f6aee7e5707f
<Not-c620> [haiku/generate-download-pages] kallisti5 f6aee7e - templates/root: bump gcc 8.3 to gcc 11.2
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<B2IA> (AGMS) Well, that was weird. Consistently got a VirtualBox Guru Meditation Error (shades of Amiga), when trying to git clone Haiku's buildtools. Seems like disk caching was using up memory and then kaboom.
<B2IA> (AGMS) Reduced memory from 4096MB to 3GB and it works. Perhaps something is going past the end of a virtual memory page table...
<jessicah> maybe you have corrupt BFS too?
<B2IA> (AGMS) Nope, fresh install, from latest nightly.
<B2IA> (AGMS) Anyway, I can finally perhaps get down to compiling Haiku on 32 bits (R1B3 failed to compile due to errors with building EFI boot).
<B2IA> (AGMS) Then I can see if the proposed mixer control GUI change works. Groan, whole day long to see if a checkbox goes away.
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<jessicah> mixer control gui change?
<jessicah> what's that?
<B2IA> (AGMS) Chatter on fhe Haiku developer mailing list. Humdinger is cleaning up the Meda settings dialog box, and we found several of the controls aren't necessary or nobody knows what they do :-)
<Skipp_OSX> yeah I saw that
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<B2IA> (AGMS) I just want to see if it compiles and still works, so I can comment on the code review.
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<B2IA> (AGMS) OK, compile on the fresh Haiku install has started...
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] rudolfc pushed 1 commit to master [hrev55848] - https://git.haiku-os.org/haiku/log/?qt=range&q=74e271b2a286+%5Ea49db24180f4
<nekobot> [haiku/haiku] 74e271b2a286 - intel_extreme: eDP port width register read is OK after all (SandyBridge).
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<B2IA> (AGMS) Nope, still fails when trying to build EFI boot loader.
<B2IA> (AGMS) What's an "Invalid bfd target"?
<jessicah> target binary format
<jessicah> e.g. pe/coff/elf, etc.
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<B2IA> (AGMS) Now trying the cross compile for a hybrid build.
<B2IA> (AGMS) Maybe it needs the newer compiler to do the EFI boot.
<jessicah> AGMS: I've never heard of that kind of error before
<B2IA> (AGMS) You'd think there would be some test build system somewhere.
<jessicah> we run CI builds every commit
<jessicah> are you on hybrid 32-bit?
<B2IA> (AGMS) Yes.
<B2IA> (AGMS) Running configure, now it's buiding compilers.
<jessicah> hmm, should just work with a ../configure, without needing buildtools
<jessicah> would be nice to see the log output
<B2IA> (AGMS) I'll post a bug report if I can't get around it.
<B2IA> (AGMS) Configure failed.
<jessicah> failed?
<B2IA> (BuildHaiku) Created "Makefile" in /boot/home/Haiku-OS-Source/generated/cross-tools-x86_gcc2-build/gcc using "mh-frag" and "mt-frag""
<B2IA> (BuildHaiku) cc1: Invalid option `32'
<B2IA> (BuildHaiku:) BuildHaiku:
<B2IA> (BuildHaiku) *** The command 'gcc -m32 -o conftest -O2 -U_FORTIFY_SOURCE -fcommon conftest.c' failed. *** The command 'gcc -m32 -o conftest -O2 -U_FORTIFY_SOURCE -fcommon conftest.c' failed.
<B2IA> (BuildHaiku) *** The command 'gcc -m32 -o conftest -O2 -U_FORTIFY_SOURCE -fcommon conftest.c' failed. *** The command 'gcc -m32 -o conftest -O2 -U_FORTIFY_SOURCE -fcommon conftest.c' failed.
<jessicah> that's bizarre
<jessicah> how'd you invoke configure?
<jessicah> you have gcc-11 installed?
<B2IA> (AGMS) Just the stock buildtools.
<jessicah> you've updated that repo to latest?
<B2IA> (BuildHaiku) ../haiku/configure --include-3rdparty --use-gcc-pipe --cross-tools-source ../buildtools --build-cross-tools x86_gcc2 --build-cross-tools x86
<B2IA> (BuildHaiku) Yes, a fresh git clone of buildtools and haiku today.
<jessicah> ../haiku/configure?
<jessicah> shouldn't it be ../configure --cross-tools-source ../../buildtools ?
<B2IA> (BuildHaiku) The directory structure is: buildtools generated haiku
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<B2IA> (BuildHaiku) So that file searches in haiku don't search generated.
<jessicah> oh, I've never run a build from outside the haiku try
<jessicah> tree
<jessicah> maybe that doesn't work well?
<B2IA> (BuildHaiku) OK, will try that, plain configure or cross build?
<jessicah> usually haiku/generated
<jessicah> try plain configure first
<B2IA> (BuildHaiku) On it.
<B2IA> (BuildHaiku) Now compiling...
<B2IA> (BuildHaiku) Time to fry up dinner while it compiles :-)
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<B2IA> (AGMSBuildHaiku) Still there.
<B2IA> (AGMSBuildHaiku) BuildEFILoader objects/haiku/x86_gcc2/release/system/boot/efi/haiku_loader.efi
<B2IA> (AGMSBuildHaiku) objcopy-x86:objects/haiku/x86_gcc2/release/system/boot/efi/haiku_loader.efi: Invalid bfd target
<B2IA> (AGMSBuildHaiku) Two possible commands, in an if statement, I'll try manually running the objcopy-x86 commands.
<B2IA> (AGMSBuildHaiku) Fails: objcopy-x86 -j .text -j .sdata -j .data -j .dynamic -j .dynsym -j .rel* -j .rela* -j .reloc -j .dynstr --output-target=pei-i386 objects/haiku/x86_gcc2/release/system/boot/efi/boot_loader_efi objects/haiku/x86_gcc2/release/system/boot/efi/haiku_loader.efi
<B2IA> (AGMSBuildHaiku) Fails too: objcopy-x86 -j .text -j .sdata -j .data -j .dynamic -j .dynsym -j .rel* -j .rela* -j .reloc -j .dynstr --output-target=pei-i386 --subsystem=efi-app objects/haiku/x86_gcc2/release/system/boot/efi/boot_loader_efi objects/haiku/x86_gcc2/release/system/boot/efi/haiku_loader.efi
<B2IA> (AGMSBuildHaiku) Same bfd error.
<B2IA> (AGMSBuildHaiku) Grumble.
<B2IA> (AGMSBuildHaiku) Dinner time I think.
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<B2IA> (AGMSBuildHaiku) Looks like objcopy-x86 supports targets of elf32-i386 elf32-little elf32-big plugin srec symbolsrec verilog tekhex binary ihex but not the requested "pei-i386" one.
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<B2IA> (AGMS) Still trying to compile Haiku on 32 bit, hacked up build/jam/images/AnybootImage to remove the if $(TARGET_BOOT_PLATORM) = efi code, so it just does BuildAnybootImage, not BuildAnybootImageEfi.
<B2IA> (AGMSBuildHaiku) Yup, objcopy on 64 bit Haiku does support pei-i386 targets.
<B2IA> (AGMS) Time to file a bug report.
<B2IA> (AGMS) Bug report filed, https://dev.haiku-os.org/ticket/17568#ticket
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